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Old 11-11-2015, 12:49 PM
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COMPLETELY agreed that brett is one of the best actors on the show. every single emotion that michael is feeling - i believe it. as much as i love justin, i too don't think he's the most charismatic actor. maybe with a little more work, he can get there. brett though... he is IT. he and gina were made to be together (on tv!)

YESSSS HER HANDS. do you guys ever notice that whenever they kiss, her hands are always all over him? i notice this a little with rafael but not in the same way at all. like in their kiss from last week's episode, his hand was already on her face and yet she still just haaad to run her hand up along his arm and up to his hand. it's things like that that make them SOOO natural and make the love and passion between their characters absolutely jump off the screen. it's so wonderful to watch, honestly!
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Old 11-11-2015, 01:20 PM
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I love in their almost kiss in 2x02 how her heart is resting on his heart/chest
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Old 11-11-2015, 03:21 PM
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OH YOU GUYS their hearts


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Old 11-11-2015, 03:30 PM
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^ Their hearts glowing at the same time was the best part!! I can't believe they didn't even have a chance to talk about the kiss
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:35 PM
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Tftnt!!

Lord. Michael assaulted Mateo now apparently? WHAT LOL


Gah precious glowing hearts
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:41 PM
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Huh did I miss something lol
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:43 PM
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Huh did I miss something lol
So much


Michael according to the fandom is plotting to assault everyone on the show now because of his murderous tendencies that have been there from the start
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:55 PM
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TFTNT! We made it to thread 2 and the title is lovely .

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I hated what Michael did at the start of the show, just like everyone else, but Brett's acting made me feel for his situation even while condemning his actions. It was a really complicated situation. A less talented actor would have turned Michael into a cardboard cut-out villain. But Brett made Michael more complex. Especially in the scenes where he shows remorse and recognition of his wrong-doings. I just don't understand how people can hate him. Evil or bad people don't feel remorse.
I agree with this. Brett really made Michael's character someone you could feel for and root for. Yeah he did a lot of things wrong, but he always showed remorse and learned from them and you just couldn't help but feel bad for the guy. Even when he was doing the things he did at the start of the show, I never once hated his character. I was drawn to him from the beginning and a lot of it had to do with how Brett portrayed Michael. He's on point all the time.

I never understood the Michael hate and this episode certainly didn't help matters in taming it. I understand being angry about what happened because believe me, I'm angry about it too and am not condoning his behavior at all. But good Lord, the amount of stuff I've read from comments is insane, from he's an abuser to kill him off by sacrificing his life protecting Jane and Mateo because it's the only way to right the problem. Just no. Michael was and never will be evil incarnate. He's human with his set of flaws and he would never intentionally harm Jane or Mateo. He was literally in tears at the fact that Mateo was indirectly hurt as a result of the fight. Evil people don't do that, just FYI.

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Honestly, I think one of the main reasons I never bought into Jane/Rafael and never felt anything about their relationship was because Justin's acting is a bit bland for me. I like him, as a person. I follow him on Twitter and Instagram and he seems like a really nice guy, but I haven't been bowled over by his performance.
Yeah I think Justin is a sweet guy but he is definitely one of the show's weaker actors. Not to say that he's terrible because he does an all right job. I just haven't been, as you said, bowled over by his performance. Especially when you compare it to the other great actors on this show.

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I... I can't even
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:01 PM
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Brett is definitely the more interesting actor. I adoreeee Justin as a person, but onscreen Rafael just always bored me. Although no one is Gina, I will say that


The title makes me sad. She wants forever with Michael
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:03 PM
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So much


Michael according to the fandom is plotting to assault everyone on the show now because of his murderous tendencies that have been there from the start
And then he'll have time to kick some puppies. I hate this exaggeration that happens in fandoms
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:05 PM
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The idea that Michael would ever intentionally hurt Jane or Mateo makes no sense. His violent outburst at Rafael didn't really fit for me (the anger yes, but taking it out physically no). But the idea that he would ever hurt Jane or Mateo physically is ludicrous
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:07 PM
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The title makes me sad. She wants forever with Michael
Same. I just feel really sad

Yeah the exaggeration is so extreme, it's annoying. People see what they want to see.

And yes, I get the anger and see where that is coming from and both Raf and Michael need to work on their anger towards each other. But violence? No. And hurting either Jane or Mateo? Hell no.
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:07 PM
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I can maybe buy punching Rafael cause of TV tropes but he would never intentionally hurt and jane
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:21 PM
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This was a clear case of love triangle OOC writing
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:29 PM
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Punching Rafael yeah, but while holding Mateo...nah
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