I just saw someone attempt to parallel Chuck/Blair to Nathan/Haley.



I mean really?

Jacob/Bella not all the stories about one sided love are cliched and unpretty, but this one is definitely one of the worst (well, what could you expect from Twilight?). Not only romance was not even implied there whatsoever, not on Bella's part anyway, but the almost non-existent love triangle destroyed all the appreciation I had for JB friendship because of how it was played out and it wasn't even worth it because Bella never had romantic feelings for Jacob and they were never a couple, other than existing in Jacob's imagination that he couldn't separate from reality. If his love was so strong and epic he would have wanted her happy because this is how it works in love. No way would he try to force himself on her, or demand to love him or come to her wedding in order to act like a hysterical immature jerk who needs a serious professional help if that love was real and not some weird and creepy mental obsession. Finally, he wouldn't have imprinted on Bella's baby which has to be one of the worst, most disgusting things to ever be done when it comes to the resolution of this non-existent triangle. JB could have been a nice story about friendship and developing feelings from Jacob's side that Bella didn't return but he still loved her and cared for her, but no, it ended up being a stroy about Jacob's unhealthy obsession that destroyed all the possibility of me even liking their friendship. Jacob was supposed to be this "normal" guy who is a safer option than Edward, but the truth was that Jacob was the one who could hardly control himself or understand what "no" means, unlike Edward who put all the possible effort into keeping Bella safe and allowing HER to choose.

Seems like a good time to bring up my distaste for Twilight in general...

It's one of the most poorly written book series I have ever read. And that's saying something considering I read two "The Vampire Diaries" books. Those books just feed my little troper-heart like no tomorrow. It'd ridiculous really. I'm kind of embarrassed and slightly worried that there are girls out there who want to experience what Bella experienced with Edward. Stalking is NOT love. But I'm not a fan of either "pairing", Jacob/Bella were a joke as well. Let alone that it was clear from the beginning that they would never go anywhere. Although I think I dislike Bella way more than either one of the guys. Such a whiny, desperate, weak excuse for a female protagonist.

Wow, I haven't bitched about Twilight in a long time. That was fun.

So very true, Mary!!! I never even brought into the friendship because Jacob was such an abusive, dishonest, manipulative douche. The things he does to Bella are inexusable.. I don't give a rat's ass if he is just a 16 year old kid who loves her. Jacob knows right from wrong and the amount of times this "kid" abused his friendship with Bella is ridiculous. He had no respect for her or her relationship with Edward. And Bella... Bella used Jacob... Jacob was the bandaid for her. Hell, Bella even told him that she would never choose him over Edward.. Jacob was Bella's second choice.. not even a second choice really, because she could never quite get herself there and even though she loved him... it just didn't compare and it most certainly wasn't enough. The whole thing just completely turned me off their friendship.. I can't even stand them in BD because Jacob still tries to manipulate their situations. I also hate his disrespect of Edward... you can dislike EB all you want.. but there has never been a time where Edward was rude or disrespectful to Jacob, even though Edward has every right to beat that kid down!!

I just saw someone attempt to parallel Chuck/Blair to Nathan/Haley.



I mean really?

lmaooo. i can't even come up with one similarity, they are basically as opposite as they come.

yeah I kinda saw that...each to their own, but they are completely different couples in like every way. The only similiar thing I can find is that Blair and Haley lost their virginity to their respective guys (but even then it was sooooo different, with NH being in love when they first had sex and being in a relationship already and well there was no mind games involved after), but that's it.

Also Nathan? Would never, ever, ever hurt Haley the way Chuck has done Blair. Haley is Nathan's entire world. Chuck sells Blair for a building.

I guess the person was trying to go for a "show OTP" should always stay together, and while I do agree that more shows should show more couples sticking together (as opposed to partner swapping/constant break ups ect) the thing is I can't imagine with Blair and Chuck's personalities (esp Chuck's) as them being the ones to have that kind of journey (where a couple stays together throughout the seasons).

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he was but your typical high school boy jerk type behaviour... nothing to the level of Chuck. But also Nathan even in early S1 was a really good guy underneath, it was always part of him, he just needed someone to believe in him and see the good in him which as soon as Haley did, that part of him came out (as soon as they started dating he became a much better boyfriend to her then Peyton). I mean he still made mistakes over the years & had his flaws, but he grew and had one of the best journey's of a character I have ever seen IMO.

Its like Mark said:


And I think that there is the main distinguishing factor. Yes Chuck is the bad boy, (though again Nate was a jerk but no where near teh level of bad that Chuck is) but he's and Blair's story was never set up as a romance, whereas NH's was, hence the whole "The Romantics" lol...scaring her with the punching glass, posessing her, selling her fo a hotel..that is not romance.