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Old 02-20-2012, 08:12 AM
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Utterly contrived relationships with no real foundation for a romance (with ZILCH chemistry to top it off):

Spinner/Emma
Sav/Holly J
Agree with this. Both couples made no sense at all. Spinner and Emma barely interacted over the series and we were just supposed to buy them as a couple just like that? I hated the whole drunken accidental marriage thing. Just cliche' and predictable.

And Sav/Holly J? She had his ex-girlfriend pretend to be pregnant with his baby just so he would drop out of the race for school president. Then a couple episodes later it's like none of that happened and suddenly out of the blue Sav has a thing for Holly J. Not to mention she never apologized for that.
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Lucas/Peyton



I still cannot believe this happened. Cutting your best friend out of the middle, then moving your picture in closer with her boyfriend's. LOL, you can't make this stuff up. So creepy.

Also since it's Monday:

Chuck/Blair
Dan/Serena
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Omg, that Peyton/LP scene. How are we supposed to take them seriously after that?
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Lori/Rick
Lori/Shane


Good GRIEF, THIS.

Like Jack and Kate, I've been given no evidence that Lori/Shane even like each other, let alone love. Lori/Rick are no better, and she's now insinuating to Rick that he should kill his best friend because of her??

Just pathetic.
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Degrassi

Sean/Ellie
Craig/Ashley (Season 3/late season 4)
Jimmy/Ashley (Season 7)
Spinner/Darcy (Late season 5/Season 6)
Sav/Holly J
Spinner/Emma
Spinner/Jane (I didn't really have an opinion on them in the beginning of their relationship, but by season 9, I began to dislike them)
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so agreed with all those Especially the last section. WTF is the right description to them. They make no sense and creep the hell out of me. I enjoyed Elena/Elijah scenes, but I cringe at the very idea of their implied romance. And Jacob/Nessie is like, well, the WORST thing ever.

I admit, I like Matt's growth and development as individual character and I would like him to start a fresh with Caroline, but the on the other hand I'm afraid that writers screw them up again like the first time.

Damon/Elena is my biggest disappointment and I think I am even more mad at writers for ruining them as I am for Naomi/Emily. DE had a fantastic potential, yet everything is wasted because of the idiotic writing of the show in general.

I will never buy Cook/Effy, Brooke/Julian and Brooke/Lucas as epic romances. Those characters brought out the worst in each other and all three cases were a settlement at it's very finest. And I never saw any great love there. Maybe I'm weird and don't get something, but for me writing 82 letters for a guy and never send them and then rush out of the house during a storm because he used some cliched line in a love letter is not romantic, it's creepy as hell. So is humiliating a girl you claim to epically love in front of ALL your mutual friends and then laugh seeing her pain and break down, only to tell her that it is you and her, always you and her a day later

Harry/Ginny and Peyton/Jake are not abusive or offensive but I agree that they had zero chemistry. And Harry/Ginny is also horrible because they were actually sould as soulmates and true love. At least JP were a bit more mature in S1, before S2 WTF-ery happened and it turned out that BL is the golden couple while Jake is the perfect option for Peyton who can magically cure her depression
ICA with this whole post.

Yes, the very idea of E/E as a romantic pairing is cringeworthy to the core. I always perceived them as some kind of father/daughter relationship. Plus they only made ONE deal so that he won't hurt her friends and family, they worked together, THAT'S IT. I don't see any connection of the sort between them. The very thought just makes me wanna hurl.

And Jake/Nessie are all the adjectives combined: creepy, disturbing, unapropriate, and I just found myself saying "WTF bro!" when I found out about them. He used to have strong romantic feelings for her mom, and suddenly he's maddly in love with her new born child?! Just, ICK. Breaking Dawn should be banned seriously. How Meyer's editors allowed **** like this to be published is just beyond me.

Ceffy are as far from an epic romance as can be, lol. They used each other emotionally and physically. Effy only slept with him 'cause she hated herself, and Cook only screwed her in order to stake a claim on her. Not to mention that he never cared one bit about hurting her, like for example insulting her in front of JJ and Freddie, and disrespecting her several times by persuing other girls (Pandora and Naomi). They're just ridiculously FAKE. Nothing about them is epic or romantic.

B/Ju and B/L are so similar it's hilarious. Brooke turns into a shell of herself when she's with both guys. She becomes whiny, insecure and needy everytime Julian or Lucas interact with another girl (i.e. Peyton and Alex). We're supposed to perceive it as some sort of angst, but it just makes Brooke take several step backs as a character. And at the end of the day I just feel sorry for both Peyton and Alex.

D/E are also one of my biggest shipper disapointments to date. They could've been phenomenal had the writers taked into account the growth that these two made in S1/2, instead of giving the show lazy ass plot lines in order to make Damon look like a Saint regardless of the several mistakes that he made and make his romance with Elena seem somewhat "legit". Same with Naomily, who had such a beautiful developement in S3 before they tainted it with meaningless cheating that seems like an infamous pattern for Skins couples. I hate it when writers take such a cheap route with their shows because they're too lazy to come up with rational ideas for their plotlines. What's up with television these days? This is getting scary.

WORD on H/G and J/P, especially the latter. H/G sucks for obvious and numerous reasons but you hit the nail in the coffin by adressing Peyton's depression. It was one of the most interesting SLs they could've given Peyton, but they trew it under the rug as soon as Jake was here to save the day. Now that Brucas are the golden couple, why not stick Peyton with Jake to distract her from Lucas and cure one of the most difficult moments of her life. Nevermind that J/P are based on completely shallow reasons, like her craving for a family so much that she wants to play house with Jake and his daughter Jenny for several weeks cooped up in her house.
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Good GRIEF, THIS.

Like Jack and Kate, I've been given no evidence that Lori/Shane even like each other, let alone love. Lori/Rick are no better, and she's now insinuating to Rick that he should kill his best friend because of her??

Just pathetic.
Jack/Kate shipper here, so I'm not gonna compare these two couples

Lori drags Rick and Shane down, big time. First she was screwing Shane, then Rick turned out to be alive so she didn't need Shane anymore. Now the bitch is turning Rick against Shane. This is another triangle where the friendship between two men is ruined because of a woman who is not even worth it.
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Klaus/Caroline.

No chemistry. Forced beyond belief. Character assassination at its finest.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:27 AM
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Lori drags Rick and Shane down, big time. First she was screwing Shane, then Rick turned out to be alive so she didn't need Shane anymore. Now the bitch is turning Rick against Shane. This is another triangle where the friendship between two men is ruined because of a woman who is not even worth it.
What's upsetting to me is how quickly Lori forgot everything that Shane did for her and Carl while Rick was presumed dead. Sure, Shane has handled things badly, he's a hothead, and like Andrea said last night, his presentation skills suck. But everything he's done, it's been for the protection of the group, of Lori and Carl especially. And now she wants him dead? She's horrific, and the two men are horrific around her.

Kill her off, let Rick and Shane get over it and get on with it. I was actively rooting for that walker to bite or at least scratch her last night!
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Harry/Hermione Have always and will always hate the idea of them as a couple. Harry and Hermione are the exact example of best friends who are perfectly fine and amazing even as best friends and shouldnt be anything more than that. Mainly because they both love someone else more than they love each other. Harry has constantly said more than once that he prefers Ron's company over Hermione's, and Hermione has never ever given us any hints that she has ever felt anything more than a sisterly or motherly affection towards Harry. Their personalities would not make for a great couple either. Hermione's smothering would annoy Harry and Harry's "saving people thing" would get on Hermione's nerves too. They are a classic example of two best friends who are just that: Best friends. Nothing more and nothing less.

And of course I have to give up my hate for the epic self proclaimed soulmate stories:

Edward/Bella
Buffy/Angel
Stefan/Elena
Scott/Allison


These couples are the exact example of everything I hate in that category. They meet suddenly they declare themselves epic and in love within days of meeting. Its unrealistic and I dont understand how we're supposed to buy them as true love. At all.
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ICA with this whole post.

Yes, the very idea of E/E as a romantic pairing is cringeworthy to the core. I always perceived them as some kind of father/daughter relationship. Plus they only made ONE deal so that he won't hurt her friends and family, they worked together, THAT'S IT. I don't see any connection of the sort between them. The very thought just makes me wanna hurl.

And Jake/Nessie are all the adjectives combined: creepy, disturbing, unapropriate, and I just found myself saying "WTF bro!" when I found out about them. He used to have strong romantic feelings for her mom, and suddenly he's maddly in love with her new born child?! Just, ICK. Breaking Dawn should be banned seriously. How Meyer's editors allowed **** like this to be published is just beyond me.

Ceffy are as far from an epic romance as can be, lol. They used each other emotionally and physically. Effy only slept with him 'cause she hated herself, and Cook only screwed her in order to stake a claim on her. Not to mention that he never cared one bit about hurting her, like for example insulting her in front of JJ and Freddie, and disrespecting her several times by persuing other girls (Pandora and Naomi). They're just ridiculously FAKE. Nothing about them is epic or romantic.

B/Ju and B/L are so similar it's hilarious. Brooke turns into a shell of herself when she's with both guys. She becomes whiny, insecure and needy everytime Julian or Lucas interact with another girl (i.e. Peyton and Alex). We're supposed to perceive it as some sort of angst, but it just makes Brooke take several step backs as a character. And at the end of the day I just feel sorry for both Peyton and Alex.

D/E are also one of my biggest shipper disapointments to date. They could've been phenomenal had the writers taked into account the growth that these two made in S1/2, instead of giving the show lazy ass plot lines in order to make Damon look like a Saint regardless of the several mistakes that he made and make his romance with Elena seem somewhat "legit". Same with Naomily, who had such a beautiful developement in S3 before they tainted it with meaningless cheating that seems like an infamous pattern for Skins couples. I hate it when writers take such a cheap route with their shows because they're too lazy to come up with rational ideas for their plotlines. What's up with television these days? This is getting scary.

WORD on H/G and J/P, especially the latter. H/G sucks for obvious and numerous reasons but you hit the nail in the coffin by adressing Peyton's depression. It was one of the most interesting SLs they could've given Peyton, but they trew it under the rug as soon as Jake was here to save the day. Now that Brucas are the golden couple, why not stick Peyton with Jake to distract her from Lucas and cure one of the most difficult moments of her life. Nevermind that J/P are based on completely shallow reasons, like her craving for a family so much that she wants to play house with Jake and his daughter Jenny for several weeks cooped up in her house.

OMG, it's perfect Agreed with literally every word here.

I don't get the Elena/Elijah and Klaus/Caroline idea of romance at all, because as much as interesting Elijah and Klaus can be as characters, they are villians and they should stay that way. Elijah rips people's hearts without remorse, Klaus killed Caroline friend's aunt, was willing to let her die if her mom hadn't made a deal with him and the overall idea of her being able to love him is hypocritical taking that she dumped Tyler for being sired to Klaus. These guys could have killed those girls in a blink of an eye. Elijah and Elena made that one deal out of practically selfish reasons on both sides and Elijah broke this deal for same selfish reasons which greatly shows how much he cares about Elena. He was willing to kill all her family had she not freaking STABBED herself for heaven's sake. They are not romance and never should be. I like their scenes and I like some aspects of their relationship, but it is nothing like a basis for romantic relationship, the very thought of it makes me feel uncomfortable.

Jacob/Nessie gotta be the creepiest thing ever, and the worst "Couple" to ever disgrace the world of fiction It makes me sick to think that he could imprint on a newborn baby after being into this baby's mom. I don't know what Meyer was smoking when coming up with that and I don't know how could that be published under the Young Adult label. It is worse than Harry/Ginny and Rose/Dimitri combined.

Ceffy are definitely the opposite of epic Those contrived love declarations from Cook sound like a cheap boy bandy song especially taking that he never backed them up by actions. For the whole season 3 he only had sex with Effy and seduced other girls behind her back, including her best friend, and didn't even feel guilty about it at all, nor did he care about Effy's insecurities and true feelings as long as he was hurting his best friend who loved him so much. The season 4 comes and Cook beats up random by passers just because he cannot handle FE kisses? Sorry, writers, but if that's an epic romance then Meyer is Shakespear


BL and BJu are so laughable because writers tried to make them seem different yet they are practically the same. In both relationships Brooke turned into a whiny, insecure, bitchy person because of a guy and all her growth as a character is being almost undone. Writers try to pass those insecurities and her whining as angst but it is far from it, it only shows the horribly dysfunctional nature of both of those relationships. Mark tried to add a "villian" to both stories aka Peyton and Alex, but the truth was that I ended up sympathing with those girls instead of Brooke, because Brooke literally lost her mind and every sense of decency when she got involved with Lucas or Julian. And I wonder where did BL even come from in S2? Lucas suddenly had an amnesia and forgot that for the whole season 1 it was Peyton he wanted to be with and his relationship with Brooke fell apart because of it, not because Brooke was the one he really wanted and he "badly screwed up things with her"

Damon/Elena could have been amazing had writers actually addressed their issues and worked through them instead of coming up with the most ridiculous SL ever and turning Damon into the new Stefan by making Stefan bad They had all the chances to grow and Elena could have developed feelings for Damon slowly and naturally while he would have been on his way of redemption yet Damon's bad acts were brushed under the rug and Elena was turned into an idiot who settles to whichever brother is available.

With Naomi/Emily it was just stupid, but predictable taking that Skins love ruining good things by contrived SL's such as cheating and then pass it for the only bad thing that can happen to your relationship and apparently you can overcome it without even talking about it, it is enough if one of you states that he/she loved you since 12. Or develops an ability to run like a dog like in Thomas/Pandora case.

ITA! Jake/Peyton in season 2 was the epitome of shallow writing. Peyton's depression was one of a few interesting SL's in season 2, Hilarie did a great job with it, it was believable and relatable but then Jake comes back as the knight in shining armor and her depression magically goes away? Really, Mark? I suffer depression for years and I sure as hell know it does not go away because a guy you like comes back to town.Peyton spends the whole season 2 playing into a happy family with Jake because she wanted a happy and full family herself, while Lucas and Brooke are a supposed golden couple and Peyton shouldn't interrupt their happiness that's why writers decided to put her with Jake and almost completely erase her issues and her personal dramas.
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Lost Finale/Existence - Probably the worst episode I've ever seen. Of any tv show. ****ing ridiculous.
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What's upsetting to me is how quickly Lori forgot everything that Shane did for her and Carl while Rick was presumed dead. Sure, Shane has handled things badly, he's a hothead, and like Andrea said last night, his presentation skills suck. But everything he's done, it's been for the protection of the group, of Lori and Carl especially. And now she wants him dead? She's horrific, and the two men are horrific around her.

Kill her off, let Rick and Shane get over it and get on with it. I was actively rooting for that walker to bite or at least scratch her last night!
Lori forgot everything Shane did for her the second Rick came back to her. And not only that but she also accused him of lying to her about Rick's death. I don't by any means defend Shane, he's crazy, impulsive and obsessed with her (I don't get why) and he would kill his best friend if it means he can have Lori for himself. I like Rick when he's away from her, he can do better than this manipulative bitch.
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Lost Finale/Existence - Probably the worst episode I've ever seen. Of any tv show. ****ing ridiculous.
Definitely Mysteries? What mysteries? Sense? Explanation? They are all dead! Hahaha! Gotcha! All they went through on island doesn't even make sense because it all ends in purtagory! Even though we claimed to never come up with a purtagory explantion. But we are so smart that we decided to trick you and we DID come up with it in the end! Because we couldn't find an explanation to our own crap that we kept pulling off for many many years. Yay!

Seriosly, Lost final will never be not a joke
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