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Old 06-08-2008, 08:07 PM
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Christian/Oliver #1 (Verbotene Liebe) ~ Germany's best kept secret!

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So the boys finally made it to I was really looking forward to Jo's return to VL and I wasn't disappointed. It's really nice to see Olli with an equal partner now (Tom, his former boyfriend, was a pretty dominant character). He seems really mature now. Well, sometimes the authors repeat parts of the storylines they already did ten years ago but I guess, that's okay for a soap opera

I wasn't sure how Thore would manage but he's doing absolutely fine. I really enjoy this couple and I hope the writer's won't break them up anytime soon.

Anyway, it's really nice to see that they gained some international YT popularity. See,Germany is more than just beer, pretzel and chubby guys dancing in leather pants
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So the boys finally made it to I was really looking forward to Jo's return to VL and I wasn't disappointed. It's really nice to see Olli with an equal partner now (Tom, his former boyfriend, was a pretty dominant character). He seems really mature now. Well, sometimes the authors repeat parts of the storylines they already did ten years ago but I guess, that's okay for a soap opera
Yeah... but, it probably wasn't as steamy as Ollian, right? And yeah... I read about Ollie's last bf. I much prefer Christian, thank you. God... Thore is a sex!god.

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I wasn't sure how Thore would manage but he's doing absolutely fine. I really enjoy this couple and I hope the writer's won't break them up anytime soon.
Same here. But, the relationship is still to new... and not everyone knows, so I think we'll atleast have a few happy months before the angst. I do think Wolle is going to attack Ollie and that will force Christian to come out to the Boxing commission.

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Anyway, it's really nice to see that they gained some international YT popularity. See,Germany is more than just beer, pretzel and chubby guys dancing in leather pants
Thank God for YouTube and a day off from work.



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Yeah... but, it probably wasn't as steamy as Ollian, right? And yeah... I read about Ollie's last bf. I much prefer Christian, thank you. God... Thore is a sex!god.
I agree that Thore is hotter than Kay (the ex) If I remember correctly they had a fair amount of kisses and making outs but yes, Ollian is much more steamy

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Same here. But, the relationship is still to new... and not everyone knows, so I think we'll atleast have a few happy months before the angst. I do think Wolle is going to attack Ollie and that will force Christian to come out to the Boxing commission.
Well, I don't want to spoil you since I always read the previews for the next four weeks so I won't comment on that. As for breaking them up... you never know. The writers of another German soap opera recently effed up the storyline of their gay couple which was really annoying since they were together for a very short time. I don't think it will happen to Olli and Christian because I recently watched an interview with the boys and they said the writers would take the audience's reaction into account. Since their story is received very well atm, it's unlikely that they're going screw it up. Hopefully it will stay this way.

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I agree that Thore is hotter than Kay (the ex) If I remember correctly they had a fair amount of kisses and making outs but yes, Ollian is much more steamy
I haven't been able to see Kay/Ollie on YT. Too bad... but, god... Christian! God, love 'em.

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Well, I don't want to spoil you since I always read the previews for the next four weeks so I won't comment on that.
Don't spoil me... ok, spoil me. No, wait... that was a test... I don't want to know.

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As for breaking them up... you never know. The writers of another German soap opera recently effed up the storyline of their gay couple which was really annoying since they were together for a very short time. I don't think it will happen to Olli and Christian because I recently watched an interview with the boys and they said the writers would take the audience's reaction into account. Since their story is received very well atm, it's unlikely that they're going screw it up. Hopefully it will stay this way.
Glad to hear that. I saw an interview on YT of them on some tech-talk show and they said something like that. Which is refreshing because right now... I can't picture them not together.

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I know...... I saw the promo with Gregor! But, yeah... I loved the exchange the two had and that Christian admitted his career wasn't as important as his relationship with Ollie. I changed my icon and sig.
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I haven't been able to see Kay/Ollie on YT.
If you want to know how it started with Olli and Tom (Kay Böger) you can watch it here. The quality is pretty bad but well...

Part 1 - with subs

Part 2 - No subs but translated dialogues

There was also a little love triangle when Tom's ex came to town which is also on YT

The evil ex LOL

Oh and they even have this one funny little thing when the boys 'misbehaved' at a party:

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Well, I won't tell you what's gonna happen only that they won't get major storylines until the end of July. That's not necessarily a bad thing we might get some 'happy' scenes instead of a crisis.


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I saw an interview on YT of them on some tech-talk show and they said something like that.
I guess we're talking about the same thing. It was an interview on Giga TV. It was really nice and the boys seemed pretty cool. Maybe I should go to one of this fan meetings one day and get myself an autograph

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I'm really flattered It's that easy making friends, huh?

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I loved the exchange the two had and that Christian admitted his career wasn't as important as his relationship with Ollie.
That was really cute and I have to admit I didn't see it coming. I guess Olli wasn't expecting this either. He looked really touched.
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If you want to know how it started with Olli and Tom (Kay Böger) you can watch it here.
Thanks for sharing... but, I totally prefer Ollian! And whoa... younger Ollie.

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Well, I won't tell you what's gonna happen only that they won't get major storylines until the end of July. That's not necessarily a bad thing we might get some 'happy' scenes instead of a crisis.
Not a bad thing... at all. I'm all for just "happy" moments for 2 months... as long as they are still on the show... daily.

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I guess we're talking about the same thing. It was an interview on Giga TV.
Yep! That was the one. The show was a bit off the wall, though.

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It was really nice and the boys seemed pretty cool. Maybe I should go to one of this fan meetings one day and get myself an autograph
You are sooooo lucky!

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I'm really flattered It's that easy making friends, huh?
I didn't think would have any Ollian fans... and I would have to convert some people over. Which I still plan on doing.

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That was really cute and I have to admit I didn't see it coming. I guess Olli wasn't expecting this either. He looked really touched.
No... he wasn't ... and he swooned when he heard it. For all the bad things Christian ever said to Ollie... that basically made up for it.

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I totally prefer Ollian! And whoa... younger Ollie
I figured I think it's much more interesting with them not only because Thore is hotter than Kay but because Olli and Christian are equal partners. Tom was very dominant in the realtionship - the successful doctor and the poor student who had to buzz tables to get by. Olli is much more mature now and more experienced than Christian but he leads him very gently. The two of them became lovers and partners who care for each other instead of themselves. You see, I wasn't sure if I would like this pairing because it was so typical soap writers to take a straight character and turn him gay. Of course I'm aware of the fact that there are still a lot of closet cases out there and Christian's coming out could have happened in real life but soap operas love to do it this way. Anyway, I liked how this relationship developed and Thore did a good job. He made the change of his character believable.

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Not a bad thing... at all. I'm all for just "happy" moments for 2 months... as long as they are still on the show... daily.
I don't think they will be on the show daily Unfortunately the writers focus on rather boring storylines instead of the interesting ones.
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Yep! That was the one. The show was a bit off the wall, though.
Absolutely. I've actually never watched it before. I guess I'm too old to fit in their target group

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Yeah, well. I probably wouldn't go anyway. I can't imagine myself waiting among a bunch of teenagers to get an autograph. Even though I think Thore and I could have a nice chat since we have something in common. We both like horse-riding. Maybe I should invite him for a ride one day Lame joke, I know

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I didn't think would have any Ollian fans... and I would have to convert some people over. Which I still plan on doing.
I know at least one other German poster from the QaF board who used to follow their storyline but we haven't talked about it in a while so convert away

Aww the pic That's one of the cutest C/O ones I've seen so far. Where did you get it from? I usually take a look at all pics of the episode summeries from the website (including the hidden ones) but I didn't see this pic. Thore looks extremely rogue-ish. So, okay, now I do want to go for a ride with him.
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Anyway, I liked how this relationship developed and Thore did a good job. He made the change of his character believable.
Thore is doing a fantastic job. Making it very believable... and seeing how he was with Coco before Ollie. Thore has alot of talent.

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I don't think they will be on the show daily Unfortunately the writers focus on rather boring storylines instead of the interesting ones.
Noooo, don't say that. Who do I write to? Blasphemy!

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Absolutely. I've actually never watched it before. I guess I'm too old to fit in their target group
It was very all over the place... and the hosts were a bit out there. Thore/Jo looked slightly uncomfortable.

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Yeah, well. I probably wouldn't go anyway. I can't imagine myself waiting among a bunch of teenagers to get an autograph. Even though I think Thore and I could have a nice chat since we have something in common. We both like horse-riding. Maybe I should invite him for a ride one day Lame joke, I know
I'd go... but, I would be at a complete loss for words... and most likely faint. Oh god, and then Thore would have to give me mouth-to-mouth recussitation... Umm... checking Orbit.com for flight times.

Very cool that you & Thore share an interest. Umm.. where did you see his interests? Was it in German or English?

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I know at least one other German poster from the QaF board who used to follow their storyline but we haven't talked about it in a while so convert away
Point the way and I will bring my powers of persuasion to convert another Ollian fan.

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Aww the pic That's one of the cutest C/O ones I've seen so far. Where did you get it from? I usually take a look at all pics of the episode summeries from the website (including the hidden ones) but I didn't see this pic. Thore looks extremely rogue-ish. So, okay, now I do want to go for a ride with him.
Totally! And yes... very rougeish... and Get in line on wanting to ride Thore.

And from today's episode...

The tender/sweet moment:



Followed by the sexy/steamy moment:



And I can't leave out Christian's WTF look before the credits.

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and seeing how he was with Coco before Ollie. Thore has alot of talent.
I didn't expected him to become Olli's new love interest since he seemed to have such a keen interest in women so all the more reason to congratulate him on his acting.

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It was very all over the place... and the hosts were a bit out there. Thore/Jo looked slightly uncomfortable.
Did they? I got the impression they didn't take the hosts seriously. I have to rewatch it.

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Oh god, and then Thore would have to give me mouth-to-mouth recussitation...
... and it would turn into something else, hmm... Okay, I shut the door on my way out. Have fun boys

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where did you see his interests? Was it in German or English?
I read it in his profile on the VL website which means it's in German. His favorite sports are: Horse-riding, boxing, skiing and hunting ( I wonder what exactly he hunts... Maybe I should invite him for a little Hide and Seek and let him track me ) but he obviously stated that horse-riding his favorite leisure activity. That's a quality you seldom find in a man... well, I guess they all like the mounting part but not necessarily in connection with a horse. Now I want somebody to make a Chris and Olli vid to Big & Rich's Save A Horse, Ride A Cowboy

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I'll ask her if she likes to come over next time she's around

Cute pics... all the tender- and steamyness I really enjoyed it even though I also liked their little discussion after Christian fired Wolle.
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I didn't expected him to become Olli's new love interest since he seemed to have such a keen interest in women so all the more reason to congratulate him on his acting.
Although, that does kinda scare me... that he could revert back to women, since he hasn't come out and said he's gay. He's basically saying he's bi... or just in love with Olli. I guess we'll see where they go with this.

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Did they? I got the impression they didn't take the hosts seriously. I have to rewatch it.
Yeah. I got that, too.

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... and it would turn into something else, hmm... Okay, I shut the door on my way out. Have fun boys
Don't wait up.

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I read it in his profile on the VL website which means it's in German. His favorite sports are: Horse-riding, boxing, skiing and hunting ( I wonder what exactly he hunts... Maybe I should invite him for a little Hide and Seek and let him track me ) but he obviously stated that horse-riding his favorite leisure activity. That's a quality you seldom find in a man... well, I guess they all like the mounting part but not necessarily in connection with a horse. Now I want somebody to make a Chris and Olli vid to Big & Rich's Save A Horse, Ride A Cowboy
If you post that comment on YT, I have a feeing that will turn up. And hell yeah!!!

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Cute pics... all the tender- and steamyness I really enjoyed it even though I also liked their little discussion after Christian fired Wolle.
The whole episode was fantastic. And adios, Wolle!

Did you see today's episode?! OMG!!! Sooo good! Love Gregor!

Some caps:

You know Olli wanted Christian to finish what he started...



A funny cap of Olli telling Judith to put a sock in it...



Some good ol' brooding Christian...



And ofcourse... the *hug*



I liked how Gregor wasn't mad at Christian because he's gay... but, because he didn't trust him enough to tell him. God, what a great way to finish that storyline. Now, Ollian can go out and not have to hide there love anymore!

And since I am obsessed... YT has my favorite fan!vid's... here's another one.



It plays like a movie trailer.
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Although, that does kinda scare me... that he could revert back to women, since he hasn't come out and said he's gay. He's basically saying he's bi... or just in love with Olli.
The writers' little loophole, yeah. I guess they prefer him to be bi so they could hook him up with a woman again after a possible break up even though I think Ollian chances to survive as a couple are pretty good atm. When I heard Jo would return to VL I was afraid they might give him a girlfriend and IMO there are enough straight (and often boring) soap couples on the telly. Anyway, it seems like he was asked back because they wanted to have a gay couple on the show. YAY for that.

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The whole episode was fantastic. And adios, Wolle!
I definitely won't miss that greasy sleaze even though he might not be completely out of the picture... I read a comment on YT that somebody thought he was a closet case. Well, I know that there are gay bashings commited by closeted homosexuals but I really don't think Wolle is one of them. IMO he's just a pathetic wannabe who dreams about having sex with hot women but all he gets is a close friendship with his right hand.

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Did you see today's episode?! OMG!!! Sooo good! Love Gregor!
I wasn't surprise Gregor reacted this way. He always came across as a straight forward and tolerant guy so it was pretty unlikely he would freak out just because his brother discovered the joys of loving a man. I bet Christian's sex life has never been that exiting before

Gregor's first reaction was kinda sweet, wasn't it? He was so confused. "I didn't mean to disturb you." - Actually, you could have come in a few minutes later, dude. I was really enjoying the view...

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You know Olli wanted Christian to finish what he started...
Me too.

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A funny cap of Olli telling Judith to put a sock in it...
That was hilarious and she didn't really get the hint

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Now, Ollian can go out and not have to hide there love anymore!
I wouldn't be so sure about that... but at least they don't have to pretend to be just friends in front of Gregor anymore.

The vid looks great. I have to watch it at home again since I don't have sound at work
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The writers' little loophole, yeah. I guess they prefer him to be bi so they could hook him up with a woman again after a possible break up
Yeah, that is pretty convenient. But then again... I can't see Christian with another guy than Olli... so that would be a better alternative.

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When I heard Jo would return to VL I was afraid they might give him a girlfriend and IMO there are enough straight (and often boring) soap couples on the telly. Anyway, it seems like he was asked back because they wanted to have a gay couple on the show. YAY for that.
I can't see Ollie straight... and I thought it was a bit of a stretch with the Coco kiss/subplot. It didn't feel right to me.

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There ya go!

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I definitely won't miss that greasy sleaze even though he might not be completely out of the picture... I read a comment on YT that somebody thought he was a closet case.
Neither will I. That's interesting... I would never have thought that.

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IMO he's just a pathetic wannabe who dreams about having sex with hot women but all he gets is a close friendship with his right hand.
Well said.

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I wasn't surprise Gregor reacted this way. He always came across as a straight forward and tolerant guy so it was pretty unlikely he would freak out just because his brother discovered the joys of loving a man.
I thought it could've went either way... but, I was happy that he wasn't mad about that... more about Christian not having trust enough to tell him.

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I bet Christian's sex life has never been that exiting before
Well, like at the gym... they like the possibility of getting caught... and yeah, it looked like Christian had a case of whiplash after that barge in.

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Gregor's first reaction was kinda sweet, wasn't it? He was so confused. "I didn't mean to disturb you." -
Very cute. It was like... carry on. Which, they should have.

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Actually, you could have come in a few minutes later, dude. I was really enjoying the view...


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I wouldn't be so sure about that... but at least they don't have to pretend to be just friends in front of Gregor anymore.
Really? What else do they have to hide from? Gregor is going to promote him and is okay with his lifestyle and all there friends know. What's left to hide? Unless Christian is hiding it still at the boxing commission.

Are Ollian going to be in today's episode? I can't see them topping yesterday's episode. But, I am biased and want more Ollian.
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But then again... I can't see Christian with another guy than Olli...
You can't? I can imagine almost everything but well, I'm a fanfic writer so I blame it on having thought up too many steamy slash scenes.
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I can't see Ollie straight... and I thought it was a bit of a stretch with the Coco kiss/subplot. It didn't feel right to me.
I didn't mean he was straight. They turned him into a bisexual during his first appearance on VL because they needed a new love interest for Tom. You see the pattern? Writers really rule the world of soap opera. Anyway, they now used his bisexuality to drive a wegde between Coco and Christian since they had to write her out of the storyline. So she had to emigrate to Goa without Christian because the actress propably wanted to leave the show and - lucky us - they needed Christian to stay and fall in love with Olli.
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but, I was happy that he wasn't mad about that... more about Christian not having trust enough to tell him.
That's understandable. I mean they are obviously close to each other now (I vaguely remember that they used to have a difficult relationship at first because Christian blamed Gregor for their father's death or at least not taking care of him... something like that) - who wouldn't be disappointed if your own brother obviously don't trust you because he's afraid you might react like a total jerk. I understand Christian's dilemma though although I think they played the I-don't-want-to-tell-him-he's-in-a-strange-mood card a bit too long.
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Well, like at the gym... they like the possibility of getting caught... and yeah, it looked like Christian had a case of whiplash after that barge in.