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| Passionate Fan   Joined: Oct 2007
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| Aragorn/Eowyn Appreciation Thread #1-More Than a Shadow and a Thought Fearless Souls: The Aragorn/Eowyn Appreciation Thread  Welcome to the first shipper thread for the characters of Aragorn and Eowyn from The Lord of the Rings.If you were one of the many who thought that Eowyn would have been a far better choice than Arwen and that what Aragorn and Eowyn had together was far more than just "a shadow and a thought",you've come to the right place! Ship away!  Fearless Souls  Why We Ship Aragorn and Eowyn-To Be Added  The Soundtrack1. Bittersweet by Within Temptation 2. Someday by Nickelback 3. If Walls Could Talk by Celine Dion 4. I Surrender by Celine Dion 5. Samson by Regina Spektor 6. Here with Me by Dido 7. Run by Snow Patrol 8. Wonderwall by Oasis 9. Bleeding Love by Leona Lewis  Vids 1.Bittersweet 2.Sweetest Downfall 3.Here with Me 4.Run 5.Bleeding Love  Links Elfsheen:An Aragorn/Eowyn Site -This thread is new and is still under construction obviously.If you want to be added to the shipper list you have something to add to the soundtrack,just ask.If you have some art or caps to add to the opener or some links to add to the links section,just PM me.  __________________ "One ring to rule them all...." Lauren-Huddy Queen of Subtext//Visit the LOTR Campaign Thread Last edited by House24Fan : 07-02-2009 at 03:56 PM. | |||
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| I saw that there were several other Aragorn/Eowyn supporters on FF,and was aghast to find that we had no thread! We may not be "canon",but we deserve a thread! So I created one,and I hope all of my fellow A/E shippers will visit and share the A/E love!  Any suggestions for how to improve the opener would be much appreciated! Post away! __________________ "One ring to rule them all...." Lauren-Huddy Queen of Subtext//Visit the LOTR Campaign Thread | |||
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| Fan Forum's Finest   | Add me please I remember when I read the books, I was so frustrated Aragorn ended up with Arwen, mainly because in the books she's barely there so when they get married in the end it's like "Uh, who's this lady again?"  Aragorn and Eowyn had the best connection, and they were, officially, Tolkien's original plan, which is probably why they ended up having so many great moments together even though they weren't the end game. I love Eowyn with Faramir but nothing compares to the connection she had with Aragorn. And I'll always remember's Aragorn's quote (I think he was talking to Eomer) where he says Eowyn's love is a love that "cannot" be returned. I like it that he doesn't say it "isn't" returned, he says it can't be. Aragorn's promise to Arwen was obviously what stood in the way.*sigh* I could go on and on about these two __________________ l o v e l e s s | |||
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I actually haven't finished reading the books all the way through. I've read all of the A/E sections though as well as the A/A tale in the appendices.When I first saw the films,I was die-hard A/A.Then,I didn't watch the films for a year or so,and when I saw them again,it just hit me...Aragorn and Eowyn are SO much better than Aragorn and Arwen! He and Eowyn have this chemistry and this connection that he never has with Arwen in the films or the books(where she is a non-character for the most part).Eowyn was his equal and they had so much more in common.They seemed to be real friends and I think they could have(and to an extent WERE) real lovers.I love the quote you mentioned too! He didn't deny having feelings for Eowyn,he just said that he couldn't return them(because of his commitment to Arwen.)Quote:
 That's why I created this thread! We can go on and on as much as we like! __________________ "One ring to rule them all...." Lauren-Huddy Queen of Subtext//Visit the LOTR Campaign Thread | |||
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I know a lot of people who liked A/A after seeing the films and then changed their minds after reading the books  I hated what they did to Arwen in the films, it was just further proof that they had to totally hype up the character and the romance in order for it to make sense in the end. I worship Tolkien, don't get me wrong, but there was no way to get emotionally attached to Arwen enough to ship her with Aragorn. They had one moment in the first book, and then they get married in the end of the third one. I mean, seriously! If what Eowyn loved was just a "shadow and a thought", I wonder what Arwen loved, considering she didn't see Aragorn for decades.There's a great Aragorn/Eowyn essay I read ages ago, I'm gonna find it to post here  __________________ l o v e l e s s | |||
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One of the things that always amuses me about the A/A thing is that some of it's supporters(not ALL,but some) go on and on about how Eowyn only loved a shadow and a thought,when Arwen is the one who REALLY seemed to have that problem.Think about it.She wouldn't marry Aragorn until he was king.Eowyn loved him long before she knew that was even a possbility! If you ask me,the one with the political aspirations was Arwen NOT Eowyn. I'd love to see that essat if you can find it! I've read some fabulous essays on a site called elfsheen.net! It's pretty much the only A/E site I've ever found,but it's a great one! Think I should put the site into the links in the opener? __________________ "One ring to rule them all...." Lauren-Huddy Queen of Subtext//Visit the LOTR Campaign Thread | |||
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Definitely. Another thing I love about the possibility of Aragorn/Eowyn is that they're very alike, they'd be SUCH a kick ass couple They'd be a King and Queen that would go off together and fight together.Quote:
She used to have a Lord of the Rings fanfic/essay website, too, called Parma Eruseen (there was a forum too), but I think it's closed now  You should definitely add Elfsheen to the opener though, I LOVE that site I have some stuff there, manips, under my old username "Tarhiliel" __________________ l o v e l e s s | |||
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What I also love about them is that they seem to have fun together! You never really saw him smiling or laughing with Arwen until ROTK,yet with Eowyn in TTT he seemed very relaxed and happy,and he even joked with her a bit. Quote:
 I joined the site recently and I'm loving the posts I've read on that forum.Have any ideas for things to put in the OP? It needs a little more dressing.We could add reasons why we ship A/E? Some soundtrack suggestions would be cool too! You know how much I love shipper soundtracks! __________________ "One ring to rule them all...." Lauren-Huddy Queen of Subtext//Visit the LOTR Campaign Thread | |||
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 I have a song to add to the soundtrack! I actually made a A/E video with it, I'll upload it to Youtube and post it here :Bittersweet - Within Temptation If I tell you Will you listen? Will you stay? Will you be here forever? Never go away? Never thought things would change, hold me tight Please don't say again that you have to go A bitter thought I had it all But I just let it go Hold your silence It's so violence since you're gone All my thoughts are with you forever 'Till the day we'll be back together I will be waiting for you If I had told you You would've listened You had stayed You would be here forever Never went away It would never have been all the same All our time what have been in vain Cause you had to go The sweetest thought Had it all Cause I did let you go All our moments keep me warm When you're gone All my thoughts are with you forever 'Till the day we'll be back together I will be waiting for you ETA: Here it is~> YouTube - Bittersweet {Aragorn & Eowyn} I made this AGES ago, now I'm all nostalgic __________________ l o v e l e s s Last edited by silver screens : 02-16-2008 at 01:17 AM. | |||
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| That's a fantastic vid,Tar! I'd never heard the song before but it's gorgeous! The lyrics fit well and the flute instrumentation reminds me of the music in the films! I'm adding the song to the soundtrack and the vid to the OP as well! I loved it! Here's a song that I think fits A/E perfectly! Someday by Nickelback How the hell'd we wind up like this And why weren't we able To see the signs that we missed And try to turn the tables I wish you'd unclench your fists And unpack your suitcase Lately there's been too much of this But don't think it's too late Nothing's wrong Just as long as you know that someday I will Someday, somehow I'm gonna make it alright But not right now I know you're wondering when You're the only one who knows that Someday, somehow I'm gonna make it alright But not right now I know you're wondering when Well I'd hope that since we're here anyway That we could end up saying Things we've always needed to say So we could end up staying Now the story's played out like this Just like a paperback novel Let's rewrite an ending that fits Instead of a Hollywood horror Nothing's wrong Just as long as you know that someday I will Someday, somehow I'm gonna make it alright But not right now I know you're wondering when You're the only one who knows that Someday somehow I'm gonna make it alright But not right now I know you're wondering when You're the only one who knows that... How the hell'd we wind up like this And why weren't we able To see the signs that we missed And try to turn the tables Now the story's played out like this Just like a paperback novel Let's rewrite an ending that fits Instead of a Hollywood horror Nothing's wrong Just as long as you know that someday I will Someday, somehow I'm gonna make it alright But not right now I know you're wondering when You're the only one who knows that Someday somehow I'm gonna make it alright But not right now I know you're wondering when You're the only one who knows that I know you're wondering when You're the only one who knows that I know you're wondering when __________________ "One ring to rule them all...." Lauren-Huddy Queen of Subtext//Visit the LOTR Campaign Thread | |||
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| Ooh, please add me to the list too. I'll admit, I haven't read the books yet ... mainly because I now have the attention span of a hummingbird  but I'm definitely an A/E shipper. Like what you guys have mentioned, Aragorn/Eowyn are equals in every sense, they get how each other operates and they can kick butt together. How perfect can they get? And I think she challenges him in a way that Arwen never did because she's tough and brave and doesn't let people push her around or tell her what she can't do.They complement each other in every way, and it frustrates me that he ends up with Arwen because they don't seem to have much in common and he seems more obliged to keep the promise he made to her instead of truly being in love with her.    __________________ "She's always really self conscious about playing. She's actually a really good guitarist but she always denies it, especially in interviews. She's a good singer as well." {fierce + flippy love} ::icon by chelsea_hale | |||
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| Welcome,Sarah! I've added you to the list! I'm glad to see that Tar and I aren't the only ones her at FF who preferred Aragorn/Eowyn to Aragorn/Arwen.I haven't read the books yet myself.Just passages.I've read enough to know that the A/A thing comes out of nowhere,and that the Tale of Aragorn/Arwen in the ROTK's appendices is a lot of overly-dramatic nonsense painting Arwen as an unstable teenager/bitch.(I know that sounds harsh,but if you read the "Tale",that's the impression you get.)Quote:
She was strong and in my opinion would have made a far better Queen of Gondor than the prim and prissy Arwen.  Eowyn had strength and determination and she could really sympathize with the people which I could never picture Arwen doing.And she seemed to be able to really COMMUNICATE with Aragorn.They developed a real friendship which I believe is the best basis for any relationship.(See quote in my sig). Quote:
I fervently wish that Professor Tolkien had joined Aragorn and Eowyn together and given poor Faramir a woman who was REALLY in love with him.I think that if Tolkien had gone with his original plan,Faramir probably would have gotten true love as well.__________________ "One ring to rule them all...." Lauren-Huddy Queen of Subtext//Visit the LOTR Campaign Thread | |||
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Fact is, Eowyn loved Aragorn with all her heart and nothing/no one could ever change that. And Aragorn loved her, too, I don't care what people say I remember a moment in the third book where he says that out of all things that were happening in the War, what most worried him was Eowyn's "shadow" (I think it was after she killed the Witch King and was at the Houses of Healing). I mean, COME ON, the world's ending, the supposed "love of his life" is far away, and what most concerns him is Eowyn's fate! If that's not love I don't know what is __________________ l o v e l e s s | ||||
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 Her husband is dying and all she cares about is herself! SHE made the decision to become mortal.SHE KNEW what that would entail.She seemed extermely selfish and petty in that scene.Also,I love how she seemed to totally disregard her own children.She just goes off into the wilderness to mope and die.Her children obviously mean very little to her.While I believe that Aragorn was the love of Eowyn's life,I highly doubt that Eowyn would have been like that in Arwen's place.Eowyn would have been sad at first,but then eventually she would have accepted it and been happy to grow old with her children and grandchildren around her. Eowyn was stronger and less selfish.Quote:
It was very touching to see his sincere concern for her and sympathy with her pain.And I DO think they loved one another and had a comfortable life.He was a good man and he cared for her and understood her pretty well.I think they were really good friends with a love grown out of mutual understanding and there was probably much affection after they'd been together awhile. But they were never each other's ONE.Quote:
I never doubted that he loved her.I think that if Arwen had really left middle-earth for the undying lands that he would have recovered fairly quickly and married Eowyn.I think that it was his promise to Arwen that kept him bound NOT a deep and abounding love for her.A man's word meant alot according to the old codes of honour that men like Aragorn lived under.He wouldn't have been able to break the promise to Arwen! I think he was trapped! He was most worried about Eowyn in the instance you mentioned because he LOVED her! __________________ "One ring to rule them all...." Lauren-Huddy Queen of Subtext//Visit the LOTR Campaign Thread | ||||
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For a character who's such a symbol of "hope", she certain had none after Aragorn died.Quote:
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I mean, take a second to be in his shoes. He sees Arwen in the woods, falls in love instantly (because she looked so much like Luthien and was one of the most beautiful beings on Middle Earth), leaves to become King (she wouldn't have him any other way) and then meets Eowyn, a woman who falls in love with him unconditionally, who's his equal. What is he supposed to do, give Arwen a call and say "Sorry babe, that promise I made to you years ago isn't valid anymore, I met someone else, tell your Dad I said hi!" ? It's not something you did in that world. He was bound to Arwen and she was bound to him. If anyone had the power to end that relationship it was Arwen, because she had the upper hand the whole time.Here's some love from the books : Quote:
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