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Always&Forever |Elijah♥Elena| #49: "She sees a lot of herself in him and vice versa, and they have a chemistry..." - ND




W E L C O M E..T O..T H E .49th
T H R E A D..F O R

ELIJAH & ELENA






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"Elijah, out of everyone, is the only person who's
actually forming an alliance with her, so her
biggest enemy is her c l o s e s t ally." Nina Dobrev






"God knows that she’s done things to him that he
wouldn’t have necessarily wanted to happen, but
Elijah continues to return to Elena even though
she’s effectively put a knife in him." Daniel Gillies

Reasons
01. Daniel Gillies ships it!
02. he checked out her ass
03. he was willing to negotiate with her instead of compelling
her
04. he thinks she's lovely
05. she trusted him to protect the people she loves
06. when he leaned in to sniff her we all thought he was going to kiss
her - and clearly so did Elena
07. he cradled her head, which was tender and unnecessary
08. we kept hoping he'd actually take her away
09. they make negotiating sexy
10. "I didn't want you to be taken"
11. she brought him back to life
12. she understands that Elijah is very careful with his words
13. he decided to work with her
14. she went back to him
15. he was happy to see her
16. he let her go to Jenna
17. he treats her like a lady
18. they eyesex each other like crazy
19. he knew she wouldn't want to be a vampire
20. she bragged about him to Stefan and Damon
21. he gave her the elixir
22. he stood beside her
23. when Alaric delivered Klaus' message, she looked to him
24. she sees him as the most noble vampire
25. if the roles were reversed, Elena would have done the same as Elijah to find her family
26. all of their scenes are nothing short of perfection
27. Elijah stares at Elena like he's longing for her
28. he thinks she is a miracle
29. Stefan knew that Elena was the only one who could get Elijah to help them
30. she didn't second guess when she pulled that dagger out
31. for both of them, family is important
32. 1000+ year old "original" vampire already falling? NUFF SAID!
33. they have both mastered the art of dying.
34. the more time he spends with her the more human he becomes
35. Elijah thinks that she’s greater than some creature that lived for centuries
36. she reminds him of how beautiful it can be to be human
37. Elijah is willing to consider making peace with Klaus if he leaves Elena alone
38. They worked to save each other's lives
39. She values his life above her own wellbeing
40. She cannot lie to him
41. He ranks her as highly as his own family








Their Scenes
Elijah battles Stefan and Damon for Elena; 2x08 Rose
Elijah prevents Elena from being taken; 2x10 The Sacrifice
Elijah strikes a deal with Elena; 2x11 By the Light of the Moon
Elena and Elijah renegotiate; 2x15 The Dinner Party
Elena pulls the dagger out of Elijah; 2x18 The Last Dance
Elena and Elijah have some time alone; 2x19 Klaus
Elijah explains his plan to save Elena; 2x20 The Last Day





Testimonials
I love that he is her ally. He respects her ability to make decisions for herself. He understands that it is her life and her choice. He respects her intelligence and her bravery - he's spent over half a millennium watching people run from his brother and this girl is willing to go to him and die. He respects her love for her family and friends. She recognizes that about him and so she trusts him; in this situation, I don't know if she trusts anyone more. When Alaric delivered Klaus' message, she looked to Elijah first.

This is a couple that locks it down. Lay it out, talk it through, negotiate, learn about the other, learn to trust. He got what Damon didn't, and he's only known her for less than two weeks: Elena doesn't want to become a vampire. Elena would become a risk to everyone, even if only for the first little while. She could murder people, like poor sweet Caroline did in the beginning. Elena does not want to murder people, and if she did she would have to live with that forever. Elijah - and Klaus - knew that elixir would work. He offered her more than mere survival, he offered her life. Because he knows: this girl isn't Katherine. She's willing to see this thing through to the end and make the best choice she can. - Black_Betty


Elijah and Elena. I don't even know how I went from finding them interesting to shipping them as AU to hardcore shipping them to considering them my OTP so quickly, but they stole my heart and it doesn't seem likely they'll give it back anytime soon. There's something so special about Elijah and Elena, a unique bond that comes from basically sharing one soul. They don't need to talk to understand each other, they can read each other without even trying. Their relationship started out as an alliance, but it gradually grew into respect and was on the way to becoming friendship when Elijah took off with Klaus (which nothing will convince me was a "betrayal". He walked into this plan fully intending to kill Klaus- until he was given the chance to see his family again. Who says no to that chance?)
Elijah is clearly attracted to Elena- the way he looked at her when he said "a mistake I won't make again" screamed of a man who's trying to convince himself. When he smiled the moment she came back to the Lockwood's I could practically hear his defenses crumble, only to be ruthlessly put up again when she went straight into business mode.

Elena can feel at ease with him - even more so than when she's with Stefan or Damon. Elijah doesn't coddle her, he treats her like an equal, but he doesn't surrender to her either. He challenges her, just like she challenges him. They seek each other out with their eyes when something happens- no matter who else is in the same room with them. They inevitably look at each other first.

Elijah and Elena will probably never stand a chance on the show, I know that- but nothing will take away from the fact that it's such an incredible waste. - dreamywriter19


It's inevitable. It's undeniable. To the writers of TVD; open your eyes to what you are creating! This is all you! We as fans are drawing out what you provide us with! In the sense of EE becoming a true "item", it doesn't have to happen right now. Though I am bored stiff, I am willing to let the triangle run its course. It poses no threat. Elena will eventually tire of being pulled in 2 directions. No one should have to endure that. But if she settles with one, it won't be stable because this is the Salvatores. They're so damaged from their past they've lost it. I don't understand how this love is supposed to be real to them; it's just something to fill an empty void, which began simply on the fact that Elena looks like Katherine; but that is where it all ends. It's not love, it's obsession. A sick and disturbing obsession. How anyone can find beauty in this eludes me, but perhaps the only reason I say that is because in a sense, I've seen the light. I have a whole new perspective of this fandom, as well as a deeper understanding.

It's better to have EE's relationship build and strengthen over time; instead of rush it just for the fact they have undeniable chemistry. It just comes so naturally. Never forced. It's so spiritually deep and so eloquent. I could go on and on about the amazing beauty of this truly flawless pairing. I have never in my life, being the hopeless romantic that I am, been so passionate about 2 fictional characters. I mean, they're not even real! Yet I am so captivated and enveloped by them because they're so enchanting and exhilarating. Like nothing I have ever seen before. Daniel Gillies' perspectives on their affiliation just make it all even more clearly defined. He's the true heart and soul of this idea. If this is what he feels, than it must hold true. But like I said, you have to surrender to it all. Otherwise, everything just gets distorted and mixed. It becomes one big mess of complicated strands between this ship and that ship. Essentially no one can make you ship a pairing, you have to decide for yourself. And we are all human so everyone sees things different. People will call you out as to being "wrong" because you don't share their views and opinions, like you're supposed to be put to shame. But it's not all so black and white. I feel rather relieved to have stepped away from that mess. TVD is one of the "hype" fandoms and I generally hate hype. But there's some reason I gravitate to it. Those reasons have changed drastically, but it's for the best.

However, in the risk of stereotyping, most people in this fandom don't seem to want to take that because they're loyalty lies with other pairings. I've never really met anyone who truly and honestly loves both Stefan/Elena and Damon/Elena without having one overpower the other. I could be wrong on that account, but that is just from my personal experience in this fandom. We are divided. Individual views are quite one sided, while as a whole there's the choice between one or the other; in the sense of SE or DE. Not really any area between that; unless you believe in crack ships, which I'm not a fan of, really. But all that was until Elijah came along, and offered a brighter outlook, at least for me. And now, Elijah is the only one I fully ship Elena with. These two are truly soulmates. The EE fanbase is so...clean, for the lack of a better word. We're not scarred with a dark and complicated history that came before. There's less baggage, if you will. We have a beautiful harmony amongst ourselves. But that doesn't make it simple. EE is the most appealingly complex relationship in the fandom just because they're more than what's on the surface. You have to get underneath it all and really look at it. And that is the main reason why I ship them. Never have I analyzed a pairing so deeply. I find it so fascinating and intriguing, more so than any other pairing, not just in the VD fandom, but EVER! And believe me, a week before 02x19, I was actually defending Damon/DE. But now, no. No turning back.

It's EE now and forever. - xXSTARwarsROXx





"Elijah spotted at Mandalay Bay frolicking in a wave pool.....
When asked about Elena, he started singing 'Umbrella'.
" - Daniel Gillies


These fancy things, will never come in between
You're part of my entity, here for Infinity
When the war has took it's part
When the world has dealt it's cards
If the hand is hard, together we'll mend your heart
Because

When the sun shines, we'll shine together
Told you I'll be here forever

Said I'll always be a friend
Took an oath I'ma stick it out till the end
Now that it's raining more than ever
Know that we'll still have each other
You can stand under my umbrella
You can stand under my umbrella

You can run into my arms
It's okay don't be alarmed
(Come into me)
(There's no distance in between our love)
So go on and let the rain pour
I'll be all you need and more





“There’s now something sort of building between Elijah and
Elena.” - Nina Dobrev



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Don't You Mess Around With Me
Your Vampire
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Pretty Girl
As The Rush Comes
Haunted
The Longest Night
In Love
Poker Face
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Say When
Crawling In My Skin
Never Say Never
Toxic
Crawling
Stormy Night
Only Surrender Can Help You Now
On Earth As In Heaven
Undisclosed Desires
Watching You
Just A Dream
Beautiful Lie
Suddenly
Tell Me Would You Kill
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You Were Once Normal...And Mine
Let Me Fall
Hold Me Like You Held Onto Life
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I'd Come For You
I'm Not Afraid
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No Easy Way Out
Bruises and Bitemarks
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"I think that if he does survive and leaves Mystic Falls,
I don’t think he can stay away because she’s too much of a
miracle for him." Daniel Gillies


...continued
Bury Me Alive
Kiss My Eyes and Lay Me To Sleep
For Your Entertainment
Love Hurts
Inconvenient Phone Call
Die Twice
What Have You Done
In Memory
Out From Under
Bleeding Love
You Floating In Me
Life Must Go On
Remember Me
Saved My Life
Leave The Rest Unspoken, I'll Never Change My Mind
Too Late
Come Undone
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Precious Stone
To Make Her Love Me
Bad Things
Are You Ugly
Inevitability
Illuminated
Confide In Me
Unspoken
Something In The Wind
Before The Dawn
Love The Way You Lie
Tainted Love
Whataya Want From Me
Stripped
Wanna Be a Victim, Ready for Abduction
Infect Me With Your Love
I Choose You
I Miss You So
Super Psycho Love
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2x08 Rose: 1 2 | 2x11 By the Light of the Moon: 1 2 3 |
2x11 By the Light of the Moon & 2x15 The Dinner Party: 1 |
2x15 The Dinner Party: 1 2 3 | 2x15 The Dinner Party &
2x18 The Last Dance: 1 | 2x18 The Last Dance & 2x19
Klaus: 1 | 2x19 Klaus: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 |
2x19 Klaus & 2x20 The Last Day: 1 | 2x20 The Last Day: 1




"There’s something in her that’s also in him – I don’t mean
to be grotesque about it and frame this in a romantic context,
but there’s a spiritual quality they share and that’s going to be
very difficult for him to not return to." Daniel Gillies




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I Will Not Bow
Freedom
In My Mind's Eye, Horatio
Lasciate Ogni Speranza
A Game of Trust
Red Strings
Sweet Dreams Are Made of This
Until Sunrise
Homecoming
A Question of Love
Promise
All In
Sin and Grace
Aurora
Wise Through Experience
Casting Eyes
The Man Who Competes With the Devil
The Silence Wager
The Dead Shall Remain Dead
The Girl Who Is Spinning the Thread of Fate
Unusual Hearing
You Shall See Me a Little While Longer
Baby Let Me Hold Your Hand
Fragile Flower
Pretty Girl
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"Someone like Elijah looks at someone like Elena he thinks,
even within her own mortality she is so much greater
than some creatures that lived for centuries that were
despicable." Daniel Gillies







"She represents something magnificent to him, something he
doesn’t see very often in people. The fans are right; there’s a
resistance and a purity, and the sexual tension becomes
pyre between them." Daniel Gillies





Future Titles
Because they trust each other
Because he's noble and she needs him
Because he trusts her enough to tell her his secrets...
Because one Petrova helped him believe in love, & the other renewed his faith in it.
Because he's been waiting over a thousand years to meet someone like her.
Because she saved his life, and he knows how to save hers.
Because "he looks better" when he's with her
"Elijah and I need some time alone." –Elena
Because he's trying to do it right this time around.
Because they're trying to do it right this time around.
"He lives by a code of honor, I can trust him." –Elena
Because 'you look better'. Than who, Elena?
“The longer he’s around her, the more human he becomes.” - Daniel Gillies
“Elijah looks at her and thinks that even within her own mortality she’s greater than some creature that lived for centuries…” - Daniel Gillies
"It's hard to believe caring is a mistake he won't make again if he eye!sexes her like crazy at the same time."
"E: "Can I trust you?" E: "Can I trust you?" Us: YES!"
"He has her word. And she lived up to it."

updated on current thread
I think that his feelings for Elena are unique to the situation that has arisen
He's run into this person who demonstrates a kind of triumphant spirit
The more that he got to know her, the more he adored those qualities in her
She's more noble than anybody.
He feels something for her more purely than Damon or Stefan ever could because I think their attraction to her was more immediately physical.
Elijah has a deeply spiritual attraction to Elena. I think that they mutually do.
There is something deeper than romantic. I don’t understand it with them. There is a magnetism.
They’re sort of battling at being honest with one another. Both of them, because they’ve both betrayed one another.
They both would aspire to be loyal to one another — and in another universe they might have succeeded — but they’re failing miserably
Elijah sees something beautiful in her. I would love for him to express that to her before he goes.
Even it was just a moment, I’d love to see them share something.
It’s not hard for me to play deep admiration of that girl when I do truly admire her.










"Elena,
Today I did things I abhor to protect the one thing I value
most, my family. If anyone can understand it, it's you. Your
compassion is a gift, Elena. Carry it with you, as I will carry
my regret.
Always and forever
Elijah"





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Yay thanks for the new thread! I love the title
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Ugh the lip biting thing he does makes me want to die *How* does she not melt when she sees him? Silly Elena =/
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omg the title, I love how it's Nina saying something for a change lol

and regarding the gifset, that scenes and onwards just shows how much Elijah doesn't want Elena to become the person Katherine did which makes it all the more painful for Elijah after S3 but it's like he had hope in her that maybe she would be the resolution to everything and the shining light at the end of the tunnel. Even though he told himself he would never make that same mistake twice, he still fell for her but not because she had the face of a Petrova, but because he had seen those qualities in her that he had once admired, and sort of a remembrance towards the beauty of humanity.
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I wonder what the writers are going to have him be like towards her now that she has turned...
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I wonder what the writers are going to have him be like towards her now that she has turned...
I hope they don't make Elijah go all against her or something, but more so understanding. He'll probably feel like he's failed his part in protecting Elena just like he did with Katerina, so fingers crossed he doesn't discontinue his loyalty and compassion towards Elena. I really doubt he will because her qualities differ from Katherine's in a good way, that way there might be a change in his actions but other than that, it's a mystery.
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omg the title, I love how it's Nina saying something for a change lol
That's why I picked it. I LOVE DG's quotes, don't get me wrong, but it's nice to have another's perspective on the ship - particularly Nina's. And it's a nice quote, highlighting one of the big reasons so many of us ship them. It rather confirms that we aren't reading into their friendship, trying to find parallels to support our ship, that we're seeing what the writers and actors are putting out there.

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and regarding the gifset, that scenes and onwards just shows how much Elijah doesn't want Elena to become the person Katherine did which makes it all the more painful for Elijah after S3 but it's like he had hope in her that maybe she would be the resolution to everything and the shining light at the end of the tunnel. Even though he told himself he would never make that same mistake twice, he still fell for her but not because she had the face of a Petrova, but because he had seen those qualities in her that he had once admired, and sort of a remembrance towards the beauty of humanity.
In a lot of ways Elena has been the resolution to everything. She didn't continue her line, thus preventing this from continuing to play out over centuries. She didn't break her word, she participated in the sacrifice and freed Klaus. Klaus got what he initially wanted and he was robbed of the rest by his own family. Because of Elena's decisions and friends/allies he got his family back - even if it wasn't what he was expecting. He got to fall in love again and with someone who genuinely cares for him (even if not romantically). I think this whole situation has been very tragic but not heartbreaking for Elijah. I think he could find a lot of comfort and happiness in their survival, etc. Elena's personality traits - her desire to try to protect everyone, etc. - will only be enhanced once she turns so I don't expect her to go very much off the rails in the way that Katherine did.

How do people feel about us maybe pushing back the OP re-design until the next milestone (75)?
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How do people feel about us maybe pushing back the OP re-design until the next milestone (75)?
That's fine with me


My only thing with Elijah right now is that I have a feeling they are going to mess around with his character again and it could go in either direction for us. They may want to rid him from Elena's life entirely (in that manner) because now he has become a complication to the love triangle. I think it's been said before but something I've noticed is that the DE/SE shippers is that while they *cannot* seem to come to an agreement between each other, they all seem to find common ground in EE which is great...but it makes everything kind of worse for the writers.
That's the only reason I can see them having Elijah turning his back on her. We won't know until we get more scenes between them (and we BETTER get a decent amount!)
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I would hate to see DG/Elijah get punted to the side because it's a well-liked ship. If the producers even considered that.....hell, they'd better dump half the cast because while most will choose Stelena over Delena, most don't even seem to like shipping Elena with either Salvatore. Elijah is a great character, very rich and complex, and one that even the other actors have spoken highly of. To have him suddenly turn against Elena now that she's a vampire - there's no good reason to do that but if shipping is a factor I hope we're all just jumping the gun here.
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I think that's just me keeping my expectations for this season low
Hopefully we are jumping the gun but it's logical since JP seems to like screwing with us so badly. She can easily keep DG around...in flashbacks
Regardless I think she needs to spend some time building on the characters she has available to her. I want...no *have* to learn more about Elijah and Kol, and I really want to see what Elena's relationship with Elijah could turn to.
Maybe we will get lucky
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TFTNT, Betty! Yay, our first Nina quote since a looooong time...

I'm also kind of pessimistic regarding the new season and the use of Elijah, not even to speak of the possibilities they could choose to destroy EE. What I don't understand at all - don't they get it that more and more people are utterly tired of the famous love triangle? That they'd like to see the three going own, different ways for at least one season? And yet they cling to the triangle like Gollum to the One Ring: "My precious!" But as that great example had shown - such a clinging can easy lead to perdition...

Maybe DG will say something about Elijah in season 4 at the Con in San Francisco later this month, although he's always very careful in his answers.

On a shallow note... I'll take a second attempt to (*fingers crossed* finally) meet DG this year - a friend and I are going to the RingCon in Bonn in early October! I really, really hope he'll come this time! So we can start again to collect questions for him, I think he'll get two Q&A, so there's twice a chance to ask something...

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They're already shooting episode 1 that's fast. But the show only comes back in October rather then September. Do you think Daniel will be finished filming? and which episode are they at. Seriously, they must be finished by now. How long does it take to film 13 episodes.... I have a feeling the show will only last this season. I check everyday on IMDB about cable shows and summer shows being renewed and nothing about SH.
I think they must be shooting the final episode right now but the official twitter account of SH hasn't written anything regarding the status of the shooting since last week when they've been filming episode 12. If they'll also film at the weekend like they did in the past DG might be free for TVD right at the start of the shooting in Atlanta next week.

By the way, here's a very interesting article regarding the ratings of SH and the chances for a second season: Saving Hope, save thyself: Big Canadian ratings no guarantee for new series | Arts | National Post
Do I have to mention that I already liked the headline? But seriously, I'm sorry that I hope it'll get cancelled rather sooner than later but you just have to look at that article - it doesn't even mention DG/Dr. Goran, as if' he'd only be an unimportant, minor character. It's all about the epic love couple of the series, ghost Charlie and his one true love... Does sound quite familiar, doesn't it?
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Thanks for the new thread! it's great to see a good E/E quote from Nina!
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I'm also kind of pessimistic regarding the new season and the use of Elijah, not even to speak of the possibilities they could choose to destroy EE. What I don't understand at all - don't they get it that more and more people are utterly tired of the famous love triangle? That they'd like to see the three going own, different ways for at least one season? And yet they cling to the triangle like Gollum to the One Ring: "My precious!" But as that great example had shown - such a clinging can easy lead to perdition...
I feel the same. I would just like for the EE friendship to remain intact and/or grow. I'm not going to bother to hope for much more. Frankly there have been so many complains w/r/t the love triangle this past year I'm surprised the writers are so dedicated to it Particularly because I never got the feeling the writers were that attached to it. Elijah, however, seems like a favorite among the writers/producers and they put more effort into Elijah than they have to many regular characters.

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On a shallow note... I'll take a second attempt to (*fingers crossed* finally) meet DG this year - a friend and I are going to the RingCon in Bonn in early October! I really, really hope he'll come this time! So we can start again to collect questions for him, I think he'll get two Q&A, so there's twice a chance to ask something...
I'm not gonna cross my fingers or anything because I did that last time I'll just say.....cool

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She can easily keep DG around...in flashbacks
Oy, what a nightmare. I'm not opposed to flashbacks I just don't want that to be the only way we really see Elijah this season.

Sometimes I feel bad that I like a recurring character more than I like most of the regular characters
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