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Old 08-19-2010, 09:01 AM
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I agree.

(well, in fact I posted a longer comment before but ate it )
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:13 PM
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I think the more Justin asked, the more he showed he wasn't feeling comfortable, the more Brian pulled away.
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:50 PM
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some of Brian's insecurities surfaced too, I think still as Steffi suggested a while back it would have been nice if Brian had given Justin a little muffin with a candle on it on his b day
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:24 PM
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In the end no matter what actions or words Brian would've tried, it wouldn't have been enough.
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not even a muffin?
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:33 AM
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I really can't see Brian doing something like a muffin with a candle It's not like him. When Brian goes romantic, he goes all the way: Prom, proposal, house
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Old 08-20-2010, 05:29 AM
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refusing to stay late at Babylon because Justin doesn't want to stay alone,walking hand in hand down the street,getting him a computre, staying up all night waiting for him... those kind of things
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Old 08-20-2010, 08:14 AM
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He did some serious nice things for Justin, didn't he?
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Old 08-20-2010, 08:59 AM
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He sure did it's too bad Justin lost track of all of that
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:11 AM
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exactly!

still,I can't understand why Brian refused to even acknowledge Justin's birthday. I mean after the bashing he did so many things he never thought he would have done before ,so I guess it was a step back for him not to do something for Justin's birthady.
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Old 08-20-2010, 02:02 PM
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Considering how Brian celebrated his own 30th birthday and what he did for Michael's, I have a feeling he doesn't enjoy birthdays very much
I guess it could be something that comes from his childhood Anyway, in the end he did do something, it's just that it wasn't the wrongest thing he could
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That hustler was such a horrible idea
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Old 08-20-2010, 10:58 PM
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there is no doubt in my mind that Brian's reluctance to celebrate birthdays was rooted in his childhood, but in this case I have no choise but to agree with Lindsay ("isn't that enough reason to celebrate" )
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:00 AM
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Probably it was also a plot device to get Justin to meet Ethan and to create some trouble between them, because in S1 Brian actually asked Justin what he wanted for his 18th birthday and he didn't seem at all against celebrating.
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I thought about that too,actually.
but than again their relanionship in S2 after the bashing were different than in S1,so maybe Brian used his "no birthday" excuse because he felt the intensity of their relationship and it scared him
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