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Old 04-11-2018, 12:29 AM
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Debbie didn't have a filter sometimes - but she needed to be nice to Brian - she knew how hard his life was and what kind of upbringing he'd had I know she loved him in some way deep down but at times she wasn't nice to him either I think. Just my opinion
Not just yours, but I think it too was the writers fault.. they wanted to make her the "over" mum and overdid it sometimes with her sense of protecting Michael.. I love the scenes she has with Brian in his loft after he got fired and later when she brought the tunacasserole.. that is how I imagine her relationship with Brian
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yeah a lot of her nasty comments were certainly because of Michael and her love for him - she was a little OTT sometimes I think
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yeah a lot of her nasty comments were certainly because of Michael and her love for him - she was a little OTT sometimes I think
it fitted her character, cause she was a very loud and impulsive person, with her heart on the right spot.. that's what made it so hard to see her talking bad about Brian
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it fitted her character, cause she was a very loud and impulsive person, with her heart on the right spot.. that's what made it so hard to see her talking bad about Brian
Yeah I do think her heart was in the right spot but sometimes she just blamed him for too much stuff that she shouldn't have

Like where she says you owe him or let him go and live his life - like Michael couldn't do anything by himself or something.


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She's quite a character, but she really did love Brian, which is hard to do sometimes.

Brian: I see your point.
Debbie: Yeah, so why didn’t you see it then?
Brian: Maybe because I didn’t know that I had cancer then.
Debbie: What?
Brian: Are you going to make me say it twice?
Debbie: I just want to be sure that I heard—
Brian: You heard it.
Debbie: S---. Are you okay?
Brian: All right? They think. But, who the hell knows?
Debbie: Well, then what the f--- are you doing out at 2:00 in the morning? You should be home getting your rest, honey.
Brian: I can’t sleep. I keep having these dreams.
Debbie: Well, force yourself. And make sure you eat, you hear me? You gotta keep your strength up.
Brian: Yes, mother.
Debbie: Does she know?
Brian: So far just Michael and Justin. And…Theodore.
Debbie: And nobody told me?
Brian: I’m telling you.
Debbie: How come?
Brian: So that you’ll forgive me and take pity on me.
Debbie: Son of a bitch. (Hugs him) You’re going to be okay, you hear me? You’re going to be okay.
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Old 04-11-2018, 06:18 AM
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Yeah I do think her heart was in the right spot but sometimes she just blamed him for too much stuff that she shouldn't have

Like where she says you owe him or let him go and live his life - like Michael couldn't do anything by himself or something.


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well.. maybe she new Michael wouldn't be able to do it himself.. she just didn't know how to get him to do it by herself and shoved Brian in cutting the ties..

Lisa that is one of the most heartbreaking scenes fo me in season 4.. Brian needed the support of someone he saw a mother in.. and even if she wasn'T the first to know, she understood, that he didn't want anybody else to tell her..
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Lisa that's one of my favorite quotes, by far. So touching how she forgot about her anger towards him and sprung into protective mother role once he told her about his diagnosis.
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That is a good quote and she has started to see how good he is deep down Maybe now that Micheal is happy with Ben she is not so one-sighted and can finally see the real Brian and not just the 14 year old that caused problems sometimes.
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I guess she didn't expect to hear anything like that .. and she saw that he had changed with his buisness and all.. as she said..

" the only way he was up that late was when 'it' was up" but since Brian wasn't going in businessclothes to Babylon it was obvious that he came from work...
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No I think that really got to her finding out about his cancer
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No I think that really got to her finding out about his cancer
I guess it got everybody cold.. Nobody expected that, especially not from Brian, who seemed to be unbreakable
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I guess it got everybody cold.. Nobody expected that, especially not from Brian, who seemed to be unbreakable
Very true - he did seem that way to them all
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Justin ~ I thought we were partners.
Brian ~ We are.
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Justin ~ I thought we were partners.
Brian ~ We are.
I'm not sure, but I think he never told Justin that so directly.. hasn'T he?
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Yeah I think that is the first time he says it like that - the only other time was when he came into the loft and said 'your partner made partner' and Justin wasn't there
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