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Old 05-17-2016, 06:54 AM
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Old 05-18-2016, 02:17 PM
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I really liked their first encounter. Chemistry all around.
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Would they have met in other surcumstances, they would have had a chance
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Would they have met in other surcumstances, they would have had a chance
No, I don't think so, Ian would still have been unfaithful .. and Justin still wouldn't have been able to deal with it
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No, I don't think so, Ian would still have been unfaithful .. and Justin still wouldn't have been able to deal with it
I agree with you, Debs.
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I agree with you, Debs.
Thank you hun But seriously, even under different circs (without Brian), Ian would still have had the "straight" rule applied by his manager so it would still have had the same outcome that it did.

It all came down to the straight world wanting Ian to conform to their world .. and he put it ahead of his love for Justin.

The only thing Brian put ahead of his love for Justin was allowing Justin to be with Ian to find out what it was like with the roses and the chocs and the violin serenades!
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:45 PM
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Thank you hun But seriously, even under different circs (without Brian), Ian would still have had the "straight" rule applied by his manager so it would still have had the same outcome that it did.

It all came down to the straight world wanting Ian to conform to their world .. and he put it ahead of his love for Justin.

The only thing Brian put ahead of his love for Justin was allowing Justin to be with Ian to find out what it was like with the roses and the chocs and the violin serenades!
that's were I have to disagree... Ethan turned down the offer because of that and accepted it after Brian told him that there is nothing noble being poor... would he done this when nobody had talked him into it?
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Brian was partially responsible for Ethan's decision to put the music first, with that whole "There's nothing noble about being poor" thing, and then he calling Ethan a whore for playing on the streets for cash. I think what happened was these little sly remarks got him thinking and ultimately, Ethan realized Brian had a point.
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Even without Brian's push, Ian would have realised that his talent was too great not to take the opportunity he was being offered .. and he was right when he told Justin that he couldn't spend his life playing on street corners.

He knew that long before Brian made his speech ~ he always had big ambitions.
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I think that Ethan's decision to realize music as his career and him cheating were two different things. I agree that either way, he would have cheated. It was in his nature.

As far as his career decision…if he hadn't accepted, he would have resented Justin eventually and the relationship wouldn't have been able to sustain itself anyway. Then again, Justin would have resented having to hide as well. So their relationship was doomed to fail from the beginning.
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It's what Brian's always saying about not sacrificing to make the other person happy.

You cannot have a happy, romantic relationship based on secrets and lies .. it's never going to work
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It's what Brian's always saying about not sacrificing to make the other person happy.

You cannot have a happy, romantic relationship based on secrets and lies .. it's never going to work
that is absolutly true...
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that is absolutly true...
Of course it is
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