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I always was impressed how good Brian turned out. We know that Jack was an awful father and rolemodel to him, and Brian was scared most to become the same way. He tried in every way not to turn into him..
He never planned to fall in love, and I guess he didn'T even notice it before Debbie said it to him, and he couldn't deny it anymore.. __________________
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116 - Justin: "You so care about me. You love me soooooooo much." Brian doesn't deny it. During the dance he was awarely head over heels admitting it was also the best night of HIS life. That night in the hospital he cried from guilt, failure that he couldn't protect Justin but also that his LOVE was just hit by a baseball bat and would perhaps die. By 201 he was full-on in love. He wore the scarf, he was at the hospital every night keeping vigil and knew every detail of Justin's progress. Outside the hospital he was an animal. And, every time somebody said the name "Justin" he physically cringed. 201 and 202 were about horrid tragedy and PTSD but these two episodes were also an intense love song from Brian to Justin. Brian tells Jennifer, "I care about him." MEANING, I LOVE HIM. When he walks away with devastation on his face the lyrics play, "I died today. But, I'm still breathing." 202 - Justin: "You love me madly, passionately, deeply." Again, Brian doesn't deny it. At the end of 202 they made soft, gentle, delicate LOVE. Brian was as vulnerable as Justin was. He opened himself up to Justin in that moment because of how deeply in love he was. In the beginning of 206 he's giddy with love. He was fully aware of his feelings. The conflict of being the stud of Lib Ave and this love was triggered by zucchini man's comments. So ensued the f---ing on the couch. KEY!!! BEFORE Debbie's conversation with him at Woody's occurred he spoke the most heteronormative sentence that ever came out of his mouth the entire series...(I'm paraphrasing) Are you still upset about the zucchini man? He didn't mean anything. I don't even remember it...or him. Brian was acting like a husband who cheated on his wife. WHY? Because he was making concessions for his behavior to keep his LOVE, Justin, appeased. Also, he did it to plain and simple KEEP Justin. SINCE WHEN WOULD BRIAN APOLOGIZE FOR TRICKING? But, he did, and while on his knees, no less. When Debbie told Brian to admit his love he huffed a yes BECAUSE he had been aware of it for a loooooong time. If Brian WASN'T aware he would've looked shocked and insulted. He would've scoffed, ended the conversation, abruptly left, then would've taken a long time out for an intense think about it. Brian's deliberate. He doesn't do much spontaneously (unless it involves Justin - he CANNOT control his impulses regarding anything involving Justin). He definitely wouldn't have given Debbie an immediate answer to the most important question EVER asked of Brian if that answer wasn't already consciously all consuming. Last edited by brianitesince2001; 11-12-2017 at 06:08 PM |
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The trauma, the guilt, the devotion, the love, the grief, the dedication, the feral need to protect Justin in the hospital b/c he failed to protect him from the bashing. His "friends" thought he'd removed himself from the situation. He removed himself from THEM. He was ALL ABOUT JUSTIN. And, he didn't care who knew it, saw it, understood it, or not. He was myopic. In 203 Debbie tells Michael if Michael came home for Brian he made a big mistake. Brian had his own life. And, that life was Justin. From 201 - 203 it was INTENSELY Justin, and only Justin. From 204 - 212 he still soooooo loved Justin but as Justin began to heal a sense of normalcy and balance returned to B/J opening the doors for more drama to occur. (Sex games were played, their rules were broken, Justin dropped out of school, Brian was outed to his Mom, etc) 213 and 214 Brian went back to protection mode with Justin. He was in agony watching Justin dance and go through the ugly necessities with Sap to get up on that bar. Brian loved Justin so much and wanted him to feel like a man that he rolled over for Justin at the end of 214. 215 - he was so in love that jealousy took over. He lost control - mostly b/c he doesn't have control regarding Justin. AND, THEN, HE APOLOGIZED HUMBLY FOR THAT JEALOUSY. He opened himself up to Justin and bared his jealous soul. 216 - The aliens abducted Brian AND Justin and left pod!Brian and pod!Justin in their places. So, I can no longer vouch for Brian's love or Justin's knowledge of that love (which Justin full well KNEW until he was abducted by aliens in 216) for the rest of the season. I don't think he was afraid of his own feelings in 206. He was so consumed by his love for Justin that he kind of forgot he had a reputation to uphold. Zucchini man punched him in the face and gutt with that reminder. That conflict was huge. Brian succumbed. BUT...it also led Brian to go find Justin and agree to all the rules Justin laid out. Brian's love for Justin was way stronger than his need to prove he was STILL the stud of Liberty Avenue. Quote:
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I don't think it was b/c he didn't trust Debbie. Unfortunately, Brian's taste in friends is appalling and he thinks of Deb as his second Mom, though he SHOULDN'T trust her. He just CANNOT verbalize I LOVE YOU to or about Justin. It's too deadly to him. He's so vulnerable all the time about Justin. Saying those words is the death knell for Brian. It was BECAUSE he trusted her that he was able to give her the affirmative "huff." He would've denied to anybody else, except maybe Justin. I often wonder what would have happened if Justin asked Brian directly, "do you love me?" Brian would either go silent like he did when Justin asked why he was living with Brian, abruptly walked out of the vicinity, softly admitted, "yes" or nodded or something, OR gone silent but let his face answer the question. I DON'T think he would have denied it. Brian doesn't lie. He just avoids. I'm a genius, aren't I? Even a broken clock's right twice a day!! I just laid out almost every possibility with the exception of throwing Justin out. One of them has to be right. It's like I threw spaghetti against a barn. LOL Last edited by brianitesince2001; 11-13-2017 at 03:23 PM |
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Brian's also practical. Everybody visited Justin during the day. Brian knew there were plenty of people in case Justin needed something. When was Justin vulnerable and alone? At night. That's when Brian stood point. He was guarding Justin and protecting him like Rage would - in the shadows of the night. Quote:
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That's Justin. I think he's got it down sometimes, then he blows it. Sometimes Brian needs a pouty "please." Other times he needs a bossy command. When Justin hits it correctly Brian's putty in his hands. If Justin had asked him that direct question in the correct way - Brian would probably have answered. But, even in 308 when Justin says you would've told me that you loved me and that you'd keep on loving me even after I was gone. Brian STILL didn't say it or even nod an agreement. So, who knows? |
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or thought Brian he was punishing himslef with not going to see him. It couldn't be that he thought Justin wouldn't want to see him, cause he knew Justin asked for him all the time Quote:
Not being able to always push the right buttons with Brian, I think the reason therefore was Justins age.. he was smart, but he had no life experience.. and since Brian had life experience, but no experience in love and relationship, he couldn't guide him there.. they bothe had to learn and I would say Justin did a good job in learning very quick.. Quote:
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I love when Mikey just got back from Oregon and Brian had calmed way down after Jennifer asked him never to see Justin again. Mikey just got a b--- job in the back room and he's standing there with a popper hanging out of his nose. Mikey tells Brian that Mikey could party all night and just like Brian could. Brian just laughed. Yeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhh....riiiiiiiiiiight. Mikey would be dead of a heart attack or be carted off to a mental institution in a straight jacket if he tried to do what Brian does. |
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That first image!
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that image with Mikey having that popper hanging out of his nose is hillarious
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Brian and Justin...
I haven't posted gifs in so long. __________________
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Brians look and is he holding on Justins waistband?
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That was one of the hottest scenes ever!
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