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Old 05-25-2008, 04:40 AM
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i do like that s4 wasn't predictable - i can't help it but what i love about the whedonverse is that he doesn't give people happy endings
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I'm appreciate unpredictability but when all is said and done the story has to make sense. I don't think season 4 did.
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Old 05-25-2008, 05:43 PM
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unpredictibility is great but ita with rachel it needs to make sense and for me niether s4 or 5 fulfilled that and both were pretty much a waste of time
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Old 05-25-2008, 07:47 PM
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I'm appreciate unpredictability but when all is said and done the story has to make sense. I don't think season 4 did.
word. which season four as a whole, didn't. at all. it started out that way....getting cordelia back, trying to forge their family back together, but all in all, it didn't work. the arc was so messed up they didn't know where to take it
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:23 AM
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It wasn't planned out very well. If you're going to do an unrelenting season-long arc you have to know the end point in advance. Season four seemed more like a case of playing things by ear to see where everything ended up.

Cordy's the most obvious case but she wasn't the only character that got screwed over. Gunn didn't fair too well either because he was so minimized and they took away his more distinctive characteristics. The writers probably gave him a new personality in season 5 because it'd been so long since they wrote the real Gunn they couldn't remember who he was.
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gotta love S1!Gunn. He was awesome
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Old 05-26-2008, 06:30 PM
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I think all the characters have changed in season 5, there were no-one who still was what he/she once had been. The only ones who hadn´t changed were Spike and Cordy in "You´re Welcome". Maybe it was because they never started to work for W&H.
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Old 05-27-2008, 05:49 AM
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W&H definitely changed them. For the better, we'll never know. I kind of liked the first office they were in, before it blew up into shreds.
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:34 AM
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I loved the first office as well - when it was just Wes, Cordy and Angel - but I didn't mind that we got the hotel and Gunn in the bargain!
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Old 05-27-2008, 10:29 AM
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I think all the characters have changed in season 5, there were no-one who still was what he/she once had been. The only ones who hadn´t changed were Spike and Cordy in "You´re Welcome". Maybe it was because they never started to work for W&H.
Maybe it's cause their both too stubborn and hard headed to change.
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Maybe it's cause their both too stubborn and hard headed to change.
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:50 PM
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i think we got more funnier eps in s5 as well - life of the party was awesome with spike being all positive
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Old 05-29-2008, 06:11 AM
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i think we got more funnier eps in s5 as well - life of the party was awesome with spike being all positive
And Gunn marking his territory everywhere!
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:32 AM
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Even Fred&Wes getting tipsy That was a good episode., not as stellar as some but still. funny
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:51 AM
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Even Fred&Wes getting tipsy That was a good episode., not as stellar as some but still. funny
Joss was always good at the stand alone funny episodes, I'll give him that
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