Cartoons - Controversial Cartoons (Discussion)

**~+Yamiko** · 05-10-2007, 12:17 AM

Okay, so I had this topic in mind for quite some time and intended to start up something like this when I finished with my exams. Well, now that my exams are over and I have at least a two month vacation (not counting work

), I figured I could start this.

Of course we all know by now that Cartoons isn't always kid-friendly. Even some of the old Looney Tunes cartoons had racial content all the way up to the episode of Pokemon where one scene caused a lot of kids to have seizures. And even World War II cartoons that they're trying not to air again that's actually made from Disney (although there were claims that Disney's trying to deny ever making those kind of cartoons that involved a certain dictator)

If there's any thing you've seen that has it's controversy or want to talk about controversial cartoons, here's the place. And here's some examples:

Angel Puss (1944)
Jungle Jitters
All This and a Rabbit Stew
Pokemon Seizure Episode (this has been dumbed down slightly since the flashing is a lot faster in the original)
Pokemon #1 (this is one of the episodes that have been banned due to a certain "cleavage" scene

There is more if you go to YouTube and type "banned cartoons" on the search engine. Though watch it as soon as you can because those kind of videos do get taken down (most likely due to copyright issues). I'll try to post more when I can find them.

If you want my opinion on this, although some of the cartoons have been pulled out indefinitely, some cartoons (especially the first three I posted) are essential history-wise as it depicts the time cartoons were made.

Just to let you know, there's two simple rules:

*No discussion of cartoons that are the 18+. Some of us may like it but since FF is a PG-13 site, let's keep it on the level. This goes for video clips you may find.

*No South Park episode discussions. We already have a thread for South Park here

WildAtHeart · 05-10-2007, 10:15 AM

cool idea for a thread...wasn't Betty Boop controversial? i remember having a class lecture about that before lol. They had to tone her down because she was too "sexy" for that time period?

**~+Yamiko** · 05-10-2007, 10:52 AM

Yup. Also, some of the cartoons were also racist. Here's some Betty Boop clips

Making Stars
Minnie the Moocher
Halloween Party
Betty Boop's Big Boss

Ahh! They took down Hitler's Children again. Now that short was freaky. Also that short with Donald Duck during the WW2 era.

**vc318** · 05-11-2007, 06:11 PM

I heard many of the classic Superman cartoons attacked the Japanese during WWII.

**~+Yamiko** · 05-11-2007, 08:44 PM

I found some clips. And yes, even Superman attacked the Japanese during the WW2 era. I think this is one of the clips you might be reffering to:
Superman- Japoteurs

And some others:
Superman- Eleventh Hour
Superman- Showdown
Superman- Jungle Drums

Add Popeye to the list. There's one episode entitled "You're a sap Mr. Jap"
Popeye WW2 Episode

By the way, I found the Donald Duck's Der Furher's Face. Notice in the first scene that almost everything in Donald's house (even the rooster) has something that's rooting for Hitler.
YouTube - Der Furher's Face

And also Hitler's Children

If you think Disney seemed a bit cute from the time Snow White came about, this might throw you off. (Watch it asap because I think it's more likely they're going to take it down again!)
Hitler's Children

I'm hoping one day someone would put up Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs (parody of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs).

**vc318** · 05-14-2007, 04:59 PM

Kris, it's creepy those cartoons actually existed.

**~+Yamiko** · 05-14-2007, 05:09 PM

Compare cartoons then to now. That's why some of the oldies are either edited or banned.

I heard that cartoons were actually meant for adults back in the days...or at least those who would pay to go inside the theatre and watch 10 minutes worth...

I think Hitler's Children did scare me at the end when I first watched it.

**~+Yamiko** · 05-21-2007, 01:49 AM

Does anyone remember the episode of Looney Tunes where Elmer Fudd is after Bugs Bunny but as a mountie of some sort. After he arrests Bugs, Bugs is sent to execution but makes one last wish....that he wishes to be a dixie?

This is the final scene that was cut off (due to the reference on what is known as blackface...supposedly as how cartoonists would draw blacks):

Some other pics. Bugs having a bit of resemblance to Hitler in order to fool a German:

And Bugs...um...trying to blend in:

Don't get me wrong. This is how Disney drew Japanese in their cartoons during the WW2 era:

(In fact, if you watch Jungle Jitters, one of the Africans that have spoken was given a stereotype of a Japanese voice).

On another note, I wouldn't be half surprised if people look at this and start getting shocked that Donald would do something like this. Just remember folks, it was part of history that didn't exactly have the audience of kids in mind.

**~+Yamiko** · 01-28-2008, 12:29 AM

I had to ask but after watching certain cartoons, there's one thing that still boggles my mind.

Does anyone get the onion ~~joke~~ reference? Every time there's something to do with onions, someone would say "Hold the onions"

GiantRoboVer2.0 · 02-13-2008, 04:47 PM

Actually the Disney cartoon "Der Fuhrers Face" was released recently on dvd. I believe the name of the dvd was Disney: The War Years and focused on material Disney produced for the war effort. You might still be able to find it at places like Best Buy or Suncoast.
And regarding Der Fuhrers Face the whole incident is revealed to be a nightmare that Donald is having. Upon waking he see's a shadowy figure with it's arm raised in an apparant Nazi salute, jumps up and starts to say: "Heil Hit..." and realizes it's his miniature Statue of Liberty which he grabs, kisses and exclaims: "OH BOY! Am I glad to be a citizen of the United States of America!"

**~+Yamiko** · 02-13-2008, 08:27 PM

Thanks for the info. I found that out recently that it was released on DVD

Do you know which section it would more likely be on if I go to Suncoast/Best Buy?

**vc318** · 02-14-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ~+Yamiko (View Post)

I had to ask but after watching certain cartoons, there's one thing that still boggles my mind.

Does anyone get the onion ~~joke~~ reference? Every time there's something to do with onions, someone would say "Hold the onions"

Certain 'banned" cartoons used this phrase? Hmm, I would think it means that you didn't like the taste of onions?

**~+Yamiko** · 02-14-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vc318 (View Post)

Certain 'banned" cartoons used this phrase? Hmm, I would think it means that you didn't like the taste of onions?

YouTube - Tom & Jerry - His Mouse Friday
*Jerry is telling Tom to cut various vegetables but when Tom was about to chop the onions, Jerry stops him.

YouTube - Jungle Jitters
*Someone holds out a sign that says "Hold the Onions".

**vc318** · 02-14-2008, 10:19 PM

Hmm, I never thought about that. Now you've got me racking my brains what this could mean.

**Veiled Vesta** · 02-14-2008, 10:51 PM

I don't think it's just banned cartoons that do the "Hold the onions" gag. It's just one of those things they say because onions are "pungent and make you cry" and maybe alot of people didn't like 'em so they just put it in. That's just my theory.

(I personally like onions, as long as they're cooked in some way. Raw? Forget about it.)

Not exactly a cartoon but I thought I'd share a quick Porky Pig "blooper". He's saying a curse word! *cue dramatic gasp!*