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Old 03-30-2019, 01:45 PM
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Legends of Tomorrow [4x09] "Lucha De Apuestas" ~ Episode Discussion

lucha de apuestas"
4x09 - episode discussion




BELIEVE IT OR NOT — When the Legends hear that Mona (Roman Young) has let a fugitive go, they must head to 1961 Mexico City to clean up her mess. Mona tries to convince the Legends and the Bureau that the people responsible for releasing the fugitive were some mysterious Men in Black and not her. With no evidence to back up her theory, the Legends must decide if they should trust her and go against the Bureau. Meanwhile, Nate (Nick Zano) and Zari (Tala Ashe) go on a recon mission to find out what Hank (guest star Tom Wilson) might be hiding from everyone.

Caity Lotz, Matt Ryan, Brandon Routh, Dominic Purcell, Jes Macallan and Maisie Richardson-Sellers also star.

Written by: Keto Shimizu & Tyron B. Carter
Directed by: Andrew Kasch

Original airdate 4/1/2019



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Mona...
And Mona's parents.

Gary believes that Mona left the whole team down and blaming "Hairy Hunk" for the crime. lol
Garry with his memory erase. lol And this is going to backfire clearly. lol

And yup! That backfired.
He uses the memory wipe way too much.

Still loving the legends intro this season.

Mona on the escape now.

Oh... she ran into her man, Konane.
Their relationship is adorable.

Mona doing everything to protect Konane.
"Wolf Man" fixes things!

Haha. Mick.
He was really trying to shoot her... wow. lol

Mick just don't have time for any story telling does he. lol

Wonder if Sarah really believes it?? Not buying it.

Zari and Sara scene! the 2 leaders of the ship....
Zari actually believe that Mona is telling the truth... Sara isn't so sure.
Luckily Zari wondered about it.

Mexico 1961
Finally Constantine here.
Has potential for a good amount of good fights in this one? lol
A good ring!


I'd love Mick or Sara or both to enter into a fight. lol

One for the history books... sounds good.

Mick through with all the fanboys.
Mona got thrown to the ground and she's protected by Konane!

Constantine views him as a real gent. lol

I am really enjoying this Mona/Konane relationship.

Zari and Nate! This is a alliance I've loved since the whole timeloop episode. However, I ruled out them actually becoming a thing.
Wonder if that was foreshadowing.

Guess we'll see what happens in their fake date....


Aww.


Zari getting all dressy for her date and she looks very beautiful.

Hank altering videos now.
Love how Zari does her investigation!


Ava will report Gary to HR.

Aww poor Konane.

Those Men and Black people are evil.
Konane misses his hometown!

Oh snap... she overwrote Gideon's security protocols... really? SMH.

I loved Sara just doing what she had to do!
She's just going on believing in Zari and Mona!
Great Captain move.

Ray is so happy to be Captain. lol
Sara had to remind him that he was Interim Captain. lol


Ray created a cards to tell some fans what not to do during missions.
Fitting that it was Charlie and Constantine he gave them to. lol

Ray... no one wants to do the game time with ya.

I've been loving team bad with Constantine and Charlie lately. lol Been fun to watch.

Ray, you are getting manipulated. These 2 have an bad influence on him.
Now he's ready to be Rayge thing to the heart yet again. lol


Let's see how this date with Nate and Zari goes.

Sara looking great. Ava is as well.
Nice... they are dancing together.

Let's see what Hank is keeping....
Sara is telling Ava what she knows as she dances with her. Smart.

Pretty good dance. lol
Ava and Sara rocked that dance!!


Seems Mick was moved by that Mona speech. lol
Oh! Ava found out about the time they are in.

OH SNAP! The real villain is over here...


I really love Sara being a wise Captain and even going up against Ava!
She never let her relationships interfere with what she believed what was the right thing to do anyway. Or let it cloud her judgement.


Finally time for a real fight to breakout... Nothing shocking about this. lol

Charlie is way too hyped.

Oh nice moment!
Sara and the legends saved history again!

Ava and Sara have an angsty moment but they'll work through it by the end.


Headquarters for Time Bureau
Seems that Nate saw the real footage of what Hank was hiding. He's contorting him head on. Nate still just trusts Hank.

OH SNAP!
Nate was a good liar right there. Wise!
Really wonder who is Hank chatting with.

Mick gotta be tired of hanging out with Mona and Konane.

Oh! Mick telling some spoilers to Moona! Neat.

Ava and Sara makeup time? It's pretty much expected. lol
Ava... unfortunately Sara is correct here...

Ava and Sara both have a different mindset when it comes to these magical beings.
Ava believes that anything can happen to them and she doesn't care.
Sara is telling her that their way of handling things are terrible.


Wow. Ava tells Sara that they are done.
I do like that they didn't have a quick makeup together....

I don't expect this break up to last but still surprising it happened here...

Mona basically telling Konane they need to go their own way...
I truly believe that something bad is going to happen... this seems too good to be true... hope he lives though....
She doesn't belong in his world but she wants him to be okay and go to his world.
What a sad but lovely love story.

OH NO!!! He's died.

WAIT??? WTF????
I did not see that coming, Mona is a Kaupe? Wolf? lol




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I'm glad this show is back.*Mexican wrestling, Cards to save the timeline, Kaupe's, men in black and Zari being told she has has childbearing hips.*

Ray's cards against humanity game sound more fun than chorewheel, count yourselves lucky John and Charlie.* They are becoming Legends whether they want to or not. I also love that they are continuing the meta. Vandal Savage that's a real name? and I thought Damian Darhk was too on the nose. I guess they didn't forget about Nate being a hemophiliac.*

I loved Mick talking to Mona about his books.*

I love that Sara trusts her team, that's why they trust her. She let Zari look into Mona's claim because her team is about helping the lost ones. Ava's still about following the rules no matter the cost. I'm sure she'll come around but*the Legends are Sara's family if Ava can't understand that then she's not right for her. Sara's about her team over the mission and that's why I love her. That's why the Legends are a true team. **I mean Mona probably has to stay with them now but she saw what Sara does for her team, what she'll give up to do the right thing. That's the leader you follow.**
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^ And I agree! I pretty much agree with your whole review of this episode.
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I really hate the writing for Ava this episode. Talk about throwing a character under the bus.
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Did Ava get brainwashed or something? She wouldn't even hear Sara out. It seemed OOC from the character development she had earlier...

... I mean... unless Hank found another clone to replace her with, and the Ava we know is locked up somewhere?
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Old 04-02-2019, 01:49 PM
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oh...I guess everyone was busy last night....

I never liked Mona and always felt she was suspicious

Love the Mexican Wrestling scenes ... I saw the Rey Mysterio signature movie.
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oh...I guess everyone was busy last night....

I never liked Mona and always felt she was suspicious

Love the Mexican Wrestling scenes ... I saw the Rey Mysterio signature movie.
Mona got scratched, so I guess she turned into a magical beastie too? I don't think she was like that originally.

And I noticed Rey Mysterio's 6-1-9 thrown in there too
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I was going to tell Dave that. lol
At first I was confused because I thought she was evil and than I was like...ooohhhhh I think she got scratched and that's how/why she turned to it.

Remember 2 episodes ago? none of us knew what happened with Mona because the next episode focused on Constantine messing up time so this episode really was the continuation of the end of 4x07 in a way. If my memory is correct.
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Yep, Mona got scratched by the Kaupe that's why she turned into one. She was never evil. She was just trying to protect the magical creatures especially the Kaupe.

Shes the werewolf joining the team that was teased before the season started. They will probably have to help her control her animal impulses, which I hope its Mick that does.
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I thought he was just a caveman out of time...not a magical creature....

I still don't like Mona... magical or ordinary...
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Dave, a Kaupe is a malevolent spirit from Hawaii that has the body of a man and the head of a dog, that calls out to people at night to lure them to their deaths. According to legend, he used to rule Nu'uanu Valley.

Legends made him into a werewolf type creature. Mona got turned into a Kaupe from being scratched by him. What has Mona done to be untrustworthy? I haven't seen her do anything that the rest of the Legends haven't done.
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wow...thanks for the info Melissa... I know very little about Hawaii
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