Harry Potter - Leos {H♥G} ~ Because "sexual tension leads to blooming love" - Dan Radcliffe - Page 3

emeraldflames · 11-02-2008, 11:53 AM

I definitely wanted Harry to end up with someone. Well, I wanted him to be happy. It was the scene in the first book when he was in front of the mirror where it first really tugged on my heartstrings. I really wanted him to have a happy ending after that. And he did with Ginny, the girl who makes him happier than he could remember.

I wonder what Harry would see if he looked in the Mirror of Erised now?

**baileycat** · 11-02-2008, 12:15 PM

I think like every father it would be about his children's happiness. When you become a parent, life ceases to be just about you and rather about your family's well being.

CHH · 11-02-2008, 12:50 PM

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I was also surprised when I read the book and realised that Harry had feelings for Ginny, I didn't expect that since the story of Ginnys crush on Harry kind of faded out more and more after CoS, we didn't hear so much more about it so I figured it was a passing thing - but I was wrong and well, sometimes it's great to be wrong.

I was suspicious that Ginny's love life got so much face time, relatively speaking, than anyone else's. There's no point bringing up Ginny and Michael (and Dean and Ginny later) unless something was going to happen with it.

As for what he'd see in the Mirror, I think he'd see his immediate and extended family, maybe the boys actually behaving, Lily declaring her intention to join a convent and Ginny agreeing to all nude weekends once the kids are off to Hogwarts. (It's a Wings reference. Once Helen and Joe kicked their siblings out of their house and realized they could do whatever they wanted, they decided to not wear any clothes in the house. Unfortunately, they forgot to close all the curtains in the house.)

pennylane_4 · 11-02-2008, 02:24 PM

^ You made a Wings reference and tied it in to my beloved H/G!!

*instantly becomes your fangirl*

kjb13248 · 11-02-2008, 02:25 PM

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I was suspicious that Ginny's love life got so much face time, relatively speaking, than anyone else's. There's no point bringing up Ginny and Michael (and Dean and Ginny later) unless something was going to happen with it.

You're right. That just proves that J.K. Rowling did plan Harry and Ginny in advance. I believe I read somewhere that she wanted both Harry and Ginny to have prior relationships that didn't work out before they ended up with each other.

**baileycat** · 11-02-2008, 02:52 PM

Which goes to also prove that some readers choose not to notice those things and stand behind "it came out of nowhere" partyline.

Proof is in the pudding people and the pudding is yummy creamy chocolate.

pennylane_4 · 11-02-2008, 03:34 PM

Totally agree with what everyone else has said. All of the emphasis that was put on Ginny's love life, even before Harry himself had a romantic interest in her, was very telling. Whether she was crushing on Harry, had "given up" on Harry, was dating another bloke, or was finally dating Harry, JKR always made it a point to let the reader know the status of Ginny's love life. In fact, in OotP, Ginny's love life was arguably given even more attention than Ron's or Hermione's. There had to be a reason for that.

The only other non-Trio character besides Ginny whose love life received that kind of attention was Cho, and it's no coincidence that each of those two characters was a love interest for Harry. The reason we were told so much about the love life of each girl was because it was (or would eventually become) important to the hero of the story.

Kgose · 11-02-2008, 03:49 PM

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I was suspicious that Ginny's love life got so much face time, relatively speaking, than anyone else's. There's no point bringing up Ginny and Michael (and Dean and Ginny later) unless something was going to happen with it.

I agree about how Ginny's love life has been focuses on quite a bit. You did forget one. Ginny was focused on at the Yule ball and how Neville would stumped on her feet, even though he wasn't really a love interest of hers.

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As for what he'd see in the Mirror, I think he'd see his immediate and extended family, maybe the boys actually behaving, Lily declaring her intention to join a convent and Ginny agreeing to all nude weekends once the kids are off to Hogwarts. (It's a Wings reference. Once Helen and Joe kicked their siblings out of their house and realized they could do whatever they wanted, they decided to not wear any clothes in the house. Unfortunately, they forgot to close all the curtains in the house.)

That is full of win!!!

I'm joining Penny and going fangirl on you.

Hes Harry Freaking Potter · 11-02-2008, 11:37 PM

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I think like every father it would be about his children's happiness. When you become a parent, life ceases to be just about you and rather about your family's well being.

Oh...if only that were a hundred percent true

*has her emo moment*

*rejoins convo*

I think that Harry realised his feelings for Ginny at just the right time. I think one of the things that gave them such short time was the fact that Ginny wanted to be in denial of hers for so long. But at the same time, would harry have realised it as quick had he and ron NOT caught Ginny and Dean going at it? Perhaps he's have caught onto it....or maybe Luna would have just point blank told him. But hey, even if they only dated for those few weeks before Harry went to do his duty, they ended up staying together a LOT longer after that, and that's what counts right?

**baileycat** · 11-03-2008, 05:20 AM

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Oh...if only that were a hundred percent true

*has her emo moment*

Oh dear.

Well yes, Harry is the ideal father.

Hes Harry Freaking Potter · 11-03-2008, 07:41 AM

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Oh dear.

Well yes, Harry is the ideal father.

thanks. He really is isn't he? Those kids are lucky.

I'm reading Harry a History right now. It has some really cool insights on fandom. But, as you'll see in the Aurors thread. Jo said something that sent me for a real loop. I'll talk about it more freely on wednesday....but it will give some of out new arguments a slightly different angle than before.

KJJ1588 · 11-03-2008, 08:14 AM

I hope you get to tell us some new info we are suppose to get in that book.

I agree with Amy, it took Ginny to get to know Harry more in OOTP, in order to see the real Harry. I always thought that Ginny may have ended up with Harry because like you all said, there really was no other reason to bring up her love life over and over again, in OOTP and finally a breakup. It's bound to have happen.

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"I tried very hard to soften it, I suppose," Jo said. Just because someone had a view on Harry/Hermione didn't mean they weren't genuine, or that they were necessarily misguided. In fact, I will say this, Steve Kloves who has been the scipt writer [on the Potter films], who is enormously insightful on the series and a very good friend, after he read book seven he said to me, 'You, know, I thought something was going to happen between Harry and Hermione, and I didn't know whether I wanted it or not.'

"I had always planned that Harry's true soul mate, which I stand by, is Ginny, and that Ron and Hermione have this combative but mutual attraction. They will always bicker, there will always be rough edges there, but they are pulled together, each has something the other needs."

I stared at her, sensing she wasn't finished, and a sense of foreboding crept in around the edges.

"[Kloves] felt a certain pulll between them at that point. And I think he's right. There are moments when [Harry and Hermione] touch, which are charged moments. One when she touches his hair as he sits on the hiltop reading about Dumbledore and Grindelwald, and [two] the moment when they walk out of the graveyard with their arms around eachother."

I was Holding my breath at this point. She wasn't done.

"Now the fact is that Hermione shares moments with Harry that Ron will never be able to participate in. He walked out. She shared something very instense with Harry.

"So I think it could have gone that way."

I could hear the shippers' cried of woe - H/H and R/H alike - reaching me all the way from the future.

Thoughts? I think it's perfectly natrual to have some sexual tension for female friends. Makes movie Harry a bit more canon. You know with the waitress and Romilda.

CHH · 11-03-2008, 08:29 AM

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I don't think JKR means those moments are sexually charged. I certainly didn't read them that way. (If anything, I was sort of bored by that point.)

And when it comes down to it, H/Hr didn't happen. They spent all that time alone, they were miserable, and yet it didn't occur to either of them to take solace in each other.

KJJ1588 · 11-03-2008, 08:34 AM

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So you didn't think anything would have happened if it could have? Rowling herself said it could have gone that way. But it didn't, because neither of them felt that strong for each other. The possibility was never ruled out.

But I suppose you're right. They were too miserable, and they had their own commitments. I think Rowling was jsut saying they shared a few moments that will never lead to romance because they have their own soulmates.

CHH · 11-03-2008, 08:58 AM

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My point is that H/Hr had their chance in that tent. They were alone. But it never occurred to either of them to take their friendship beyond platonic. Did they even have any conversations that went beyond communicating the very basics? I got the impression the only talking that went on were of the "It's time to move the tent" or "I'll take the first watch" variety rather than anything meaningful.

I'm focusing on what did happen rather than what could have happened. I don't care what could have happened. If I did, I'd be writing AU fic.