[*antarian angel*]

This is the place to ask questions and discuss all things having to do with the Harry Potter books and movies.

[Mavericks]

Hi guys! I don't knowwhere to put this music video I found in youtube.com. I hope this is the right place to put it

Anyway, I found a really cool HP video. The music is La Vie Boheme from the Broadway RENT soundtrack. If you guys have the time, do check it out. It's really fun to watch.

La Vie Boheme Harry Potter Style

[baileycat]

There was a fanvid thread before the Data Meltdown. But I don't think one has been started again yet.

Cute vid.

[Caradeangel]

Was that the FanFlicks thread? I think I've seen it somewhere. Intact.

[oneagainst]

So you guys are all really good at harry potter and stuff and I just seriously need one question answered. At the end of GOF, when everyone rushes in to save Harry from Moody/Crouch. When dumbledore see's the dark mark on crouch's arm he makes harry show him his arm. Why? There is nothing special about it. They don't talk about how it helps Voldemort get stronger (or whatever it does) or anything. He's just like "Oh hey, harry's arm is cut." And that's it. What does it mean? Why is it in the movie??? Can anyone help me? It's driving me crazy, I tell you. Thanks much for your help.

love, Katrina.

p.s. I am very angry that I had to repost this. I am only doing it because this question is going to burn a very large hole through me if it doesn't get answered.

[*antarian angel*]

you're not the only one- I've wondered about that too.

[baileycat]

Well Katrina, I think Sara answered the question on your previous thread. Dumbledore was afraid that Harry was also branded with the mark which meant that he would be under his control. The mark DOES have some power because Wormtail and other death eaters like Snape felt it's pull and they were not strong enough to resist it. But since Voldemort felt that Harry was only useful to bring himself to back to full form he didn't think he was worthy at time to brand him with the mark and he was planning on killing him in the graveyard anyway. BUT you will see the effect of having Harry's blood inside Voldemort. There's a clue that at the end of the GOF book that suggests it was a mistake on Voldemort's part to have taken his blood. This will most likely be answered in the final chapters of book 7. OotP deals with Harry having to feel Voldemorts emotions and he learns (or tries to learn to block them out) so he can't be manipulated by them. Voldemort is also unaware that Harry can read him until the very end of OotP. That is why in HBP he no longer has that ability.

On a side note - The reason why your thread was closed was because we try to keep this board tidy and too many discussion and questions threads can lead to a confused and chaotic board. Sorry if it upset you but it might have helped to read the board rules first before you posted.

[ImmortallyUsed]

Originally Posted by baileycat (View Post) Well Katrina, I think Sara answered the question on your previous thread. Dumbledore was afraid that Harry was also branded with the mark which meant that he would be under his control. The mark DOES have some power because Wormtail and other death eaters like Snape felt it's pull and they were not strong enough to resist it. But since Voldemort felt that Harry was only useful to bring himself to back to full form he didn't think he was worthy at time to brand him with the mark and he was planning on killing him in the graveyard anyway. BUT you will see the effect of having Harry's blood inside Voldemort. There's a clue that at the end of the GOF book that suggests it was a mistake on Voldemort's part to have taken his blood. This will most likely be answered in the final chapters of book 7. OotP deals with Harry having to feel Voldemorts emotions and he learns (or tries to learn to block them out) so he can't be manipulated by them. Voldemort is also unaware that Harry can read him until the very end of OotP. That is why in HBP he no longer has that ability. On a side note - The reason why your thread was closed was because we try to keep this board tidy and too many discussion and questions threads can lead to a confused and chaotic board. Sorry if it upset you but it might have helped to read the board rules first before you posted.

im so agreeing with you on this one

thats exactly what i thought about it as well

[oneagainst]

I don't think that dumbledore is dumb enough to think that voldermort had gave harry the dark mark. Because giving him the dark mark isn't going to do anything. He's not going to join him just because he has a stupid brand on his arm. Harry doesn't have the predisposition to evil so I doubt that just voldermorts mark could turn him. I think that there was a reason he wanted to see the mark and the directors didn't realize that it would be confusing because they didn't explain it. But then again, I don't really know. Which is why I asked the question in the first place.

Also, I'm sorry that I messed up your pretty board. Your rules confuse me because I don't know any of the terms you used. But really, I didn't mean to offend you by posting in the wrong spot.

Someone should contact the directors and ask them why that happened.
(And, no, I'm not serious. Because I'm not THAT stupid)

[baileycat]

A dark mark is serious business and powerful and is NOT to be treated lightly. I'm sure Dumbledore is plenty experienced in not taking his foes power for granted. Having an inexperienced 14 year old under a power that is difficult to fight (no matter how strong the chosen one is) is not something Dumbledore would disregard.

Katrina, not for nothing but our board rules are pretty straight forward and you didn't offend anyone so don't worry. We encourage lots of discussions on this board.

So what does everyone think we'll see in the teaser trailer?

My guess? I think we'll see a glimps of Harry's hand being carved with "I must not tell lies" in blood. Followed by a innocent and evil smirk by Umbridge.

[Dingbat]

I'm not sure where to put this, but doesn anyone know where can I find screencaps of CoS?

[baileycat]

Leaky has them. Try there.

I was reading an article at Wizard News and thought I'd bring it over here.

Since the end is near for the book series do you think there's a chance that the Harry Potter series has life in a graphic novel format?

HARRY POTTER, IS IT TIME? by MattBrady Saturday, July 21st will officially see an end of an era. That’s the day that Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, the final book in JK Rowling’s phenomenally successful Harry Potter series goes on sale around the world. Rumors abound about what could happen in the final novel, from the possibility (unlikely though it is) of a happy ending, to rumors that Harry will die. But certainly, the question which has been asked in many minds is: does it have to end? This being a comic book news site, our bias is probably already showing, and you can more than likely guess at where we’re going with this: Can/should Harry Potter continue in comics? Those of you who didn’t think of this already, slap yourself on the forehead and catch up to us after the stinging stops. In short, it’s time. It's a topic that yes, hinges on decision makers that have little to do with comics, but still, as the market has changed in the last years and months, it's a decision that would make sense. Of course, it wasn't time when Rowling first began her series about the young magician with a destiny. Back in 1997, when Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone first hit, and no one knew what it would become, the idea of a comic adaptation – laughable. But move ahead ten years. As Rowling’s work has been credited with everything from increasing literacy among pre-teens and teenagers to bringing young adult fiction into its own as a category to be dealt with, to raising the bottom line at many a bookstore chain, so have comics and, more importantly, graphic novels. Today, at a point where graphic novels are now outselling comics and bringing in $330 million as a category in 2006, not to mention receiving acclaim after acclaim, recognition after recognition and – this can’t be mentioned strongly enough: acceptance among a larger audience than ever, it’s a no-brainer that Harry Potter could thrive as a series of comics or graphic novels. In this day of more and more licensed literary properties, Harry Potter is the low hanging fruit. Copies of Rowling’s hardcover novels are purchased by kids and adults alike who don’t blink at spending upwards of $25 for the latest installments. And the numbers sold? 10.8 million in the first 24 hours of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince going on sale. Numbers like that set the offices of comic and graphic novel publishers awash in drool. So – if we were to continue with this little premise – that there should be Harry Potter comics…what format should they be in? The easiest answer: graphic novels of 120 pages or more. Thanks to manga, it's what the Potter audience already thinks of when they think of "comics." Although, Dark Tower at Marvel makes a strong case for serialization…issue one of the adaptation of the Stephen King property did, according to Marvel, very solid numbers. From the LA Times: "Dark Tower" has a large initial printing, and the first issue is projected to sell well above 200,000 copies, according to Dan Buckley, publisher of Marvel Comics. The Dark Tower comic series is busting some long-held beliefs about casual readers finding comic shops and online stores, as King's audience, leading up toe the release, was mobilizing in order to find comic shops all over the country. And retailers can only drool at the prospects of seeing their own "Potter effect" akin to what bookstores saw when the novels caught fire. If Potter comics came out as monthlies, it would revitalize the direct market, no question, although, given Potter's popularity, it would take major muscle to keep the comics in the direct market only. So...well, let's back off that strong call for graphic novels. Put it at 70/30 for graphic novels versus comic books. The graphic novel format may edge out the monthly in this instance because it’s audience-friendly (a whole story in a single book) and also – well, because it’s the format that the publisher that most likely would land the comic book rights to Harry Potter, if they were to be had, already publishes in. Said potential publisher, Scholastic’s Graphix line, home to the color version of Jeff Smith’s Bone. Under the guidance of David Saylor, Graphix has enjoyed steady growth, and has become the home not only for Bone but other Scholastic properties and titles as well. It would make the perfect home(*) for Harry Potter as comics, as Scholastic already publishes the Potter novels. It got us thinking…so we asked David Saylor: Newsarama: David, does Scholastic/Graphix have any plans to adapt Harry Potter novels, or tell original Harry Potter stories in graphic novel form? David Saylor: Scholastic/Graphix has no plans to adapt the Harry Potter novels into graphic novel format. NRAMA: In your opinion, would the Harry Potter novels/characters/stories be good fodder for turning into comics? DS: My personal opinion is that the Harry Potter books are perfect prose works, just as they are. But that said, they certainly they work as movies, too, and there’s no reason why a brilliant graphic novel adaptation wouldn’t be possible. J. K. Rowling is a writer who conjures great visual storytelling and I think any graphic artist would find adapting them an enjoyable challenge. (*) okay, yes, Marvel’s Joe Quesada at one time kind of joked that it would be fun to talk to Rowling about possibly doing Harry Potter comics, and yes, he had said the same thing about one day working with Stephen King, so yeah…there’s that outside chance, but it’s way outside. King’s Dark Tower publisher, Scribner/Simon & Schuster doesn’t have its own, in-house graphic novel arm, marking that pairing make sense. Of course, there is the Potter connection with Warner Bros which cannot be ignored either, if one is to consider possible comic book publishers that could adapt the Potter novels, or spin new stories. That would be DC, by the way…essentially meaning that the field is wide open, really when it comes to potential suitors for Harry Potter comics. Potentially, what could Harry Potter graphic novels do? Not what stories could they tell, we’ll get to some of those in a minute, but what could they do as in changing the landscape? After all, the Potter novels themselves are responsible for much of what you see in the YA section of any bookstore today – a huge influx of titles from vast array of authors and a diversity of genres are now there to keep Judy Blume and Madeleine L'Engle company. As some argue, Harry Potter got the children of the world reading. You’ve seen the video from stores on debut night – lines out the door and around the block for what? A book. Now – just take that enthusiasm and hunger, and point it at graphic novels. Not just possible Harry Potter graphic novels, but graphic novels as a category. As those who have seen it grow in the last few years know, the graphic novel market has increased in size through a series of small, but steady steps. Harry Potter graphic novels would be a leap unlike anything the market has ever seen. The hunger for Harry Potter graphic novels would spread to other graphic novels for kids, and then to adults. This all isn’t to say that Harry Potter graphic novels are a silver bullet for the ills of the comics industry…but the idea of them is awfully shiny. So why don’t we have them? Simple – Harry Potter isn’t controlled by a corporation whose only goal is increasing revenue and making the shareholders happy. Rowling owns the rights to Harry, Hermione, and Ron. As far as she’s stated, she may write an eighth book after the upcoming Deathly Hallows, but nothing is set in stone. And publishers, don’t try to wave that bag of money under her nose. According to several reports, she’s richer than the Queen of England. Rowling’s also left the door open on the possibility that Harry is killed at the end of the final book, preventing him from being used in later stories – something easily gotten around, so she’s kind of drawing the line in the sand on that one. But end of the day, who can say? Is there hope that a young Wizard, or, perhaps others in the world said Wizard inhabits may make comics their own? Possibly. Scholastic has surely put the offer on the table. Again, they’d be foolish not to. Also, Stephen King and Rowling are acquaintances who occasionally are in the same place at the same time. As anyone who saw King at this weekend’s New York Comic Con panel will attest, the man is a huge fan of what Marvel is doing with The Dark Tower, and reportedly is considering plans to do more novels through the publisher, perhaps starting with The Stand. If Rowling had worries about how others would treat her characters or world, King could easily allay them, of course, ostensibly bringing the Marvel angle back to the equation. Time will tell. Perhaps the deal is already signed, and will be announced the day the final novel hits. Perhaps such a deal will never be signed, ever. But just in case one is, we tapped Troy Brownfield to find some angles and possible stories that could easily show up in graphic novel format. Take it away, Troy. When one considers the vast number of pages that compose the books of the Harry Potter Universe, it’s amazing to realize exactly how many stories have been implied, but left untold. In some cases, we are given a shorthand version of certain events to facilitate their involvement in the main plot. In other cases, it seems to be a question of time. It would seem, then, that mini-series or a series of graphic novels would be a sharp way to present some of these tales that might otherwise be lost. Following the example of concepts like The Gunslinger Born, here are a few suggestions that we have for Potter side stories that fans might like to see explored. Rubeus Hagrid: Among Giants: While we’ve been given slight glimpses of Hagrid’s mission as envoy to the giants and his eventual rescue/relocation of his half-brother, Grawp, a full explication of this situation could be extremely entertaining. Hagrid continues to be a beloved character, even if he hasn’t got a lot to do in every volume. A graphic novel might be the perfect place to expand on this crucial, and character-expanding, adventure. Dumbledore: Order of Merlin: Another beloved character, but one with literally dozens of mysteries that circle around him. A personal favorite of mine is the hinted battle he had with the Dark Wizard Grindelwald in 1945 (a fact mentioned on his chocolate frog trading card, and one rife with all kinds of wartime implications). Apart from that, Dumbledore clearly has a huge history that runs from his childhood through his tenure as a teacher and up through his appointment as Headmaster. Think about what he might have done during the rise of Voldemort, or how he might have managed Harry’s father and his trickster friends. This character is rife with potential for further exploration in the sequential form. Voldemort: Anger: Even though Voldemort has had much of his history revealed in the past three novels, there’s no real linear retelling of how many of the pieces fall together. One suggestion we have would be to bring organization to all of these tales (his relationship with his father, his betrayal of Hagrid, his ascent to greater power, etc.) and show it in a straight-forward narrative fashion. Imagine someone like Dan Brereton or Stuart Sayger on the art chores, and hang on. The Mauraders: Appropriately, this would cover the Hogwart’s days of young James Potter, Sirius Black, Remus Lupin, Peter Pettigrew, Severus Snape, and Lily Potter. While we are privy to many details of this group’s various interactions, it could be great fun to revisit their somewhat more light-hearted school days. There’s the blossoming romance between James and Lily, the frosty relationship between Snape and the others, and the generally more upbeat friendships that would sadly lead to betrayal and darkness. Overall, it’s an intriguing set of character arcs that could make for a riveting long-form series. Mischief Managed: A quick-one here: the full-on comedic adventures of Fred and George Weasley. No further explanation needed.

I just think it would be cool to get some canon stories, that we know Jo has at least outlined in her research about some of the characters that go beyond only Harry like The Mauraders and The Malfoys.

I'd read them!

[iamFez]

Well, personally I think this would be a brilliant idea! I'm not sure if Jo would go for it, but if she did then I'd love to read the stories that are untold. Perhaps a mini-series on Tom fleshing out more on what we saw in the Pensive scenes in HBP.

Or another mini-series set in the MWPP and Snape time where we see what really went down with the prank, etc.

The only thing would be that Jo I think would have to help write the comics, and I'd hate to see it drawn Manga style. Something in the style of X-Men would be great IMO!

[baileycat]

Well personally I can't see anyone else but Marta to do the work but that's just me.

She did write the magical beasts book though. And perhaps she could be convinced that graphic novels would appeal most to her youth audience. They'd be shorter serials but how cool would it be to see in episodic stories of The Mauraders or Dumbledore's past? It would be less time consuming than an actual novel too.

You know even if this will take YEARS or even decades to see the light of day, I'd still crave it. These stories can't just sit in a box in her office forever. They should be told.

[fawkes]

so i was re-reading the first harry potter book, and i realised something iv never noticed before...
The night that voldemort first attacked harry; the day his parents died, was halloween...just wondering if this had any significance to the story line...

Also that Dumbledore is REALLY old. Old nicholas Flammel was like four hundrend and something, and as dumbledore helped him discover how to make the Philosipher's stone, that means that dumbledore has got to be around that sort of age as well...
In which case he would have been using it as well, so was he going to die sometime soon any way as the stone was destroyed and therefore he had no more access to any elixier of life...?

Just wondering...