magicman

I have no idea. It just seems so predictable..

GoF, the graveyard scene [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Cheermione Silverstain

it cant be Crouch Jr... because Moldiemort named him in that speech too, saying his most loyal follower was at hogwarts right now. and Snape wasnt there then... so it really makes sense that its Snape, but on the other hand it makes sense if he wasnt... blah this is so confusing

Ben

That's kind of scary that it could be anybody else.

McGonnagal?

Hagrid?

Flitwick?

DUMBLEDORE?!

Cheermione Silverstain

*blinks* uhm... i think i didnt say that right..
Voldie told his death eather in GOF in the graveyardscene that is most loyal servant was at hogwarts now, and it was Crouch JR.
But Snape wasn't with Voldie in the graveyardscene, thats why i think he's the one who would never return. although it could have been karkaroff but i seem to recall that Voldie said something else aswell which applied to Karkaroff.. it all leads to Snape being the one that wont return.. AGH! i need to reread that part to really get into this *goes to do just that*

Ben

I thought that Crouch Jr was dead / indisposed at this point.

Cheermione Silverstain

No, because after the graveyard scene and Harry comes back with Cedric's body and the cup Moody (Crouch JR) takes him up to his office to 'take care' of him. so he's still there. And thats when Crouch JR tries to do something or other to Harry.. dont really remember what.. and then Dumbledore, Snape and Mcgonagall come in and he gets busted. So Crouch was still at Hogwarts, probably at in the quidditch stadium, when Voldemort was speeching to his death eathers

Pav

I think it's Snape because (as J. K. Rowling says) Dumbledore trusts him and he can't abuse his confidence, Dumbledore is never wrong, right? However, does it mean Karkaroff will return? [img]smilies/look.gif[/img]

magicman

It is a toss up. It seems like it would be Snape.

GoF pg 651 American Version

"And here we have six missing Death Eaters... three dead in my service. One, too cowardly to return... he will pay. (*Has to be Karkaroff, b/c he fled that night*) One, who I believe has left me forever... he will be killed, of course..."

Yeah, Snape did leave forever. So it has to be him. All I really was thinking, was it was easy to guess, unlike Crouch Jr. as Moody.

I have toooo much time...

Pav

Is it possible to have tooooo much time? I'm mostly busy. I wish I had time and could reread all HP books again and again...

This answer is riddle for me. Any clues?

Ashley_316

Thanks so much for clearing that up. I was seriously confused by that even when I read it. But I'm not the type of person to go back and re-read something because I didn't understand it in the HP books. If I did that, I think I would stop more often than I most people.

Chippewa Falls Dawson

Isn't Snape pretending to be a Death Eater again, though? [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]

magicman

That's what it seems like. Which, I know, doesn't make any sense. B/c Voldie said he would kill him...

Cheermione Silverstain

yeah thats what i dont get... he said he would kill him... but he's gone back, and he's still alive.
Maybe Voldy just keeps him around and pretends he doesnt know, so that he can do something horrible later on. at first i was thinking maybe he ment someone else... but he doesnt mention anyone else that hasnt been accounted for right? so it has to be Snape.
wait... i just thought of something, he only mentions the Lestranges not being there cause they are in Azkaban right? but what about the other people who escaped from Azkaban, Antonin Dolohov for instance, they were deatheaters to right? why doesnt he have a spot open in the circle for him?

elethoniel

Hmmm maybe she'll mention him again as the star ... or maybe he and Harry's parents (and maybe even all of the people Voldie's killed) will come back at the final battle as ghosts (like in RotK) and avenge their deaths ... just a thought [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

magicman

And what I don't get, is that Dumbledore must know that whole Snape situation. And he still sent him..

He should have spaces for the other Death Eaters, you're right. Myabe he just got onto the story of his return before he could finish? B/C that makes no sense. [img]smilies/look.gif[/img]