Harry Potter - Aurors (H/Hr) : Strong Ships Survive the Roughest Waters

hammergal2004 · 07-18-2005, 06:37 PM

A long, long time ago there lived a boy named Harry Potter. He had this devastatingly tragic life, all made better by a loyal and trusting rapport he had with his best friend Hermione Granger. Little did they know, the loving friendship they shared would turn into something more because of course, there are some things you can't share without liking each other, and knocking out a 12-foot mountain troll is one of them.

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hammergal2004 · 07-18-2005, 06:39 PM

Hope you guys like!

And just so you know... I added FIVE new Aurors to the list from the last thread and that was AFTER the book came out!

I'm feeling great...we're going to be okay! I will not give up!

NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER SURRENDER!!!!

Willpostmorelater!

~Sharon

Amaria · 07-18-2005, 06:40 PM

Oh you guys, your unwavering strength and hope is touching.

But for me? HBP was completely and utterly demoralizing. While I have to agree that this book has done nothing but implant further into my mind that H/G and R/Hr are horrible pairings, I have lost faith in JKR to know that. It seems she is writing towards those pairings. Plot wise, H/Hr is impossible at this point. I dont think its possible to solve the tension between R/Hr (and any Auror who thinks there isnt something there is honestly I think delusional) in one last book and then address Harrys feelings for her and then address Rons feelings over Harrys feelings, and to have Hermione have a complete switcharound -- see how confusing? Its impossible. And add to that the fact that Hermione is too comfortable discussing how fanciable Harry is (no girl with deep seated feelings for her mate can say stuff like that without batting an eye) there are just very bad omens all over this book. And I think everyone will agree now that JKR is horrid at writing romance -- so why even want H/Hr in the end?

No, my friends, Im afraid all hope is gone. The assassination of Hermione, the lack of subtlety when it came to who fancied who -- its all very very bad. Its hard to even read between the lines at this point, because its clear to me that JKR is being obvious to make things obvious. We thought everything in the past five books were hints at H/Hr remember? And nothing came of it! So I feel as if to think of elaborate theories now and reading between the lines to find The Truth is futile.

Sigh.

What Im saying is, I still love this ship, but Im afraid Ill never get to love them as canon.

PS? Have I mentioned how much I hate Ginny yet? Because I do. I swear she makes my blood boil worse than Umbridge, Bellatrix, and Voldy combined. I dont care who she fancies I just want her gone, damned it.

PPS. I liked everything else well enough. Cant wait to read book 7, depression about shipping aside.

PPPS. Love potions? Really? No, sadly enough, Ginny has too much of a personality and is too "hot" to have to resort to such things.

Shes apparently got a long line of boys waiting for her, and she had given up on Harry, so unless it was a second party, I dont think there was anything other than honest to god stupidity that made Harry fall for her.

PPPPS. Also? Appreciate the enthusiasm, Beholder, but I cant wait for you to read the book. Everyone whos optimistic but hasnt read it, read it. There are good moments for us, but also very bad ones. Trying to keep up your optimism after that is a tough thing to do, so Id like to watch you guys try. If you can manage, then maybe Ill believe you then. [/bitterness]

Little Tiger · 07-18-2005, 06:59 PM

Mrs. Orlando Bloom-

At this point, I really don't care if H/Hr get together! Yes, it's disheartening! But in my mind, H/Hr truly belong together and fanon and canon will never change that!

street bunny · 07-18-2005, 07:00 PM

sorry double post

street bunny · 07-18-2005, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Tiger

Mrs. Orlando Bloom-

At this point, I really don't care if H/Hr get together! Yes, it's disheartening! But in my mind, H/Hr truly belong together and fanon and canon will never change that!

NO YOU DO CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I assure you H/Hr is happening in book seven. If not there is always h/hr smut in progress

Will,Nicole's Manwhore · 07-18-2005, 07:24 PM

Just remember guys: "Come What May...".

Beholder · 07-18-2005, 07:27 PM

Hello people.

umm...

well

no

not

really...

spikearrin, you're right. I should read the book before I go out trumpeting my over-enthusiasm and over-optmism.

In hindsight, it was really over-the-top.

Anyway, I do believe I'll be reading the book in full sometime in August (if my friend remembers to buy it, that is!).

But my optimism only comes after thinking this ugly disaster over. Hard. I didn't gloss over the R/Hr and the H/G. I was depressed. I doubted my ship heavily. I almost considered abandoning ship, but decided, that for the sake of the Aurors, that I couldn't, and shouldn't. In fact, I couldn't sleep the night of the 16th, because my head was simply churning with unanswered questions and pure frustration.

Sharon was kind enough to give me some snippets, and I've read the most detailed spoilers I could get my hands on. And, like everyone here, I was pretty crushed by what I saw. I was furious that JKR would deform her characters (esp. Hermione!) like that.

But, after I calmed down a bit, I realised that the sheer crappiness of the book just goes to show that Voldy isn't going to go down if Ginny remains prominent. If JKR is shooting for an ending in which Voldy is defeated, then Hermione better reclaim her place! This goes to show that Harry has got NOTHING on Voldy without Hermione. If JKR wants Harry to become The Punisher, why Ginny's egging him on to it.

And here we were thinking that Love is the key to defeating Voldy! How silly of us![/sarcasm]

Granted, I am not pleased with the way JKR is paving her story; however, all that I need for her to confirm is that Harry needs Hermione, not Ginny. And if she's going to write that, she must bring back the old Hermione and slam the door on the H/G and R/Hr relationships. That's what I want.

~Beholder

*Natalie* · 07-18-2005, 07:31 PM

Now, having finally read my book, which I need to read again. Too much dang info!

STARTING OF

OK, coming from the canon side, in some ways, our 'ship has sunk, what with H/G being together, jealous!Hermione of Ron/Lavender, etc. Now, some may that our 'ship is totally sunk overall. It's not sunk in canon overall. First of all, there's still freakin' BOOK SEVEN, so H/Hr may possibly hook up then. (Operative word is possibly.) And second of all, as some people may have learned with HBP, many things can happen in one book. Third of all, yes, many of Harry's thoughts have been displayed in the previous books. (Well, goodness, in the way, the reader can be "Harry.") HOWEVER, though some people may disagree, the reader DOES NOT know every single freakin' feeling, thought, et cetera of Harry's across the board, in every aspect, as not everything is shown in canon. It's similar for Hermione.

So, will H/Hr happen in canon? I don't know, but at least of right now, I'm not going to rule out the possibility.

ENDING OF

-Delilah- · 07-18-2005, 07:32 PM

spikearrin: I must say I agree with your post, 100%.

This book really took my HP love out of me. I'm kind of feeling betrayed by JK at this point. After putting so much energy into being an HP fan, the waiting for the books etc. I have seriously lost my HP love (and again even putting shipping aside), just the way this book was written, the total lack of continuity of people's characters, of things that have been alluded to in five previous books...it was all washed away little by little as I read each page of HBP. Let’s see here’s just a few things I have issues with in this book:

Hermione's completely out of character behavior (even if she does have feeling for Ron - going to the Christmas party with that guy just to make him jealous?!) Honestly... Silly me, I somehow had the impression that Hermione was a little more mature than that, that she wouldn't stoop to that level, that she just might care a little bit more about what Harry has been learning about Voldemort. Where, oh where is the real Hermione Granger?

Ginny is immature, irritating, mean, and apparently suddenly the love of Harry’s life (after Harry has had no interest in her in that way at all previous to this book.)

Where was Ron and Hermione, Harry’s trusty friends that help him out. Where’s the trio working together? Nope, Ron and Hermione think Harry’s just making something out of nothing in regards to Malfoy. And anyway, they’re too busy caught up in their stupid teenage soap opera trying to make each other jealous to be of any use at all.

And how about Dumbledore: how can he be such a great and wonderful wizard with so much knowledge and power and yet he still trusts Snape? I know Dumbledore likes to believe the best about people but come on, the guy can't be that stupid or deluded into thinking that Snape was really a good guy without any real reason as it seems like it turned out to be. I have always been intrigued with Snape’s character – I couldn’t wait to find out the real great reason why Dumbledore kept trusting him. I thought the revelation as to why was going to be so illuminating and interesting to find out but now it appears that for all Dumbledore’s power and ability he was just a fool who trusted a Death Eater for no reason at all. It sort of made Dumbledore drop a few notches in my regard. I understand no one is perfect but, really, the Snape thing is kind of a big thing to miss.

Even if things somehow worked out in the end with everything I have an issue with...Harry and Hermione end up together, Dumbledore wasn’t really wrong about Snape…it doesn't really matter. The things that have happened in HBP will completely cheapen it. Harry Potter has lost it's appeal to me now.

OK, I’m going to stop now. I don’t want to be so negative and depressing, sorry…

And just for the record: I'm not abandoning the H/Hr ship. (Everything about them prior to HBP makes them still one of my favorite couples and according to what I have read in books 1-5 I still believe they are wonderful together.) I'll just continue it in my head. Starting at the end of OotP Harry and Hermione will just have to live on in my own little HP world excluding all the crap that is HBP.

Brighter Than Sunshine · 07-18-2005, 07:38 PM

So, i was babysitting today and we ended up watching the second Harry Potter, really good, and i haden't seen it yet so i was happy to watch it. It didn't seem to have much H/Hr in it though.

CANELITA1974 · 07-18-2005, 07:41 PM

hello everyone!!
i'm not new in this forum, i used to post under different name, anyways

i just want to say- i still believe that Harry and Hermione belong together
and even though i havent read the whole HBP

Letty · 07-18-2005, 07:42 PM

Ok I know I am not a regular on this thread nor am I eccentric, funny, or smart enough like other posters for people to pay attention to my thoughts and opinions and to take the time to read my posts as long as they are. I have been ignored plenty of times in the past on this thread and that never bothers me in the least because I understand this thread moves so fast that it is impossible to respond to every post, and I do not post on here for attention or to be acknowledged. I simply post once every so often to get things off my chest or to chime in with an opinion. However this will most likely be the only time I post and really hope everyone can have the common courtesy to at least read what I’m saying. Don’t care if you agree or don’t bother to acknowledge my existence but please read it since I know there are so many H/Hr shippers on the verge of giving up on our ship.

Having said that I am extremely saddened that so many people are just letting the HP world go because of HBP. It’s their right to do so but I refuse to give up before the end of the series. To me being a shipper is not about being wrong or right, it’s about enjoying a couple regardless if they are together or not. I mean if a requirement of being a shipper was that they have to end up together than half of the HP shippers would not exist such as Snape/Hermione, Harry/Cho, Draco/Harry or Draco/Hermione. First off JKR already said H/C would not be getting back together and honestly what are the odds of S/Hr, D/H or D/Hr happening in JKR’s universe? Given that they are still in school it is extremely unlikely that these coupling will happen in the books before the series ends yet that does not stop so many fans to happily ship them. They don’t ship them because they know it will happen but because they like those characters together, at least that’s my opinion on why certain couples are shipped since obviously I don’t ship anyone but H/Hr. So even if H/Hr never happens in JKR’s series, I don’t think I will ever stop supporting a H/Hr pairing. Although there is an exception to that and I’ll explain that later in the post.

I’m still hoping that there is a reason for the mess created in HBP relationship wise. JKR once said there was a difference between being tricked and being fooled (I think that was the quote) and that fans would not like being fooled, well if H/G is the couple in the end then she is a hypocrite since she essentially fooled everyone with all the ambiguous comments to fuel the H/Hr and R/Hr wars. The same cannot be said about R/Hr since she did like to hint that they were a possibility but H/G literally came from left field and made absolutely no sense whatsoever. I admit I was a bit disgusted to learn she enjoyed seeing shipper wars since I personally loathe said wars since it never gets anyone anywhere and it just causes unnecessary rifts and negativity in the HP fandom. Maybe I just have more compassion for others than she does but misleading people and giving people false hope knowing it will break their hearts in the end just for personal amusement is just sad and cruel.

If she thinks what R/Hr have is real love then, well I rather not be rude and say something bad about her but I personally fear for the millions of teen girls who walk away from the HP series and think the way R/Hr act with each other means they are in love. I said it before and I’ll say it again, what R/Hr have is NOT UST, it’s just plain emotional abuse. I’m not one of the rare H/Hr shipper who hates Ron, I actually hold all three characters in my heart and I actually felt bad for Ron in this book everytime Hermione and Ginny were cruel to him. There were times I just wanted to give him a big old hug since Hermione and Ginny took digs at his poor self-esteem. But just because I may care for Ron as I do the rest of the HP characters it does not blind me to his faults, which one being is he can be a bully when he wants to be, especially to Hermione. He has continuously put her down to make himself look or feel better. I lost count on how many times he has made her cry for making fun of her opinions, beliefs or desires (to free elves). HBP just illustrated that R/Hr would have an emotionally abusive and self-destructive relationship. If one does something to piss the other off they start this war to see who can hurt the other more. That is not a healthy relationship. Love is not supposed to hurt, as R/Hr did to each other throughout the books. To make R/Hr work instead of maturing Ron to Hermione’s level she preferred to sink Hermione down to Ron’s immature level and be as mean, and spiteful as Ron. I'm scared teen girls who ship R/Hr will allow boys to treat them as badly as Ron does Hermione and mistake fights and being used for UST. Whatever happened to being friends first, friends that can hold conversations without yelling or bickering, friends that can respect difference of opinions and friends who never try to hurt each other to make themselves feel better? Whatever happened to having self respect and respect for others? That is the relationship JKR should be supporting, which is H/Hr who even though they fight at times can in the end still respect each other.

Harry/Ginny, HBP just proved that the only way this couple could semi be taken seriously was to literally shove Hermione out of the story and completely make her OOC to make Ginny look like the better girlfriend material for Harry. Given that Hermione has always been the girl who is front and center with Harry, aka not a sidekick like Ron, Ginny being shoved down our throats and Hermione completely changing was extremely obvious and did not work the way it might have been meant to work. You cant make people care for a character who was absent throughout the whole series. It simply didn’t work because despite Ginny being portrayed as an aggressive and at times cruel person, I still don’t care enough about her to want to root for her relationship with Harry to work out. The whole H/G thing felt flat and cold to me, I felt nothing for them as a couple.

Shipping aside the thing that really pissed me off/disappointed me and almost tempted me to stop reading and give up on JKR and H/Hr was the complete character assassination of Hermione. It is true that I adore most of the characters in HP but my favorite has always been Hermione. Mainly because I was happy to finally see a girl front and center who was just as strong, independent, caring, loving and smart as the hero of the story if not more so. I never saw Hermione as the sidekick but as the heroine of the story. I was excited that young girls could finally have a role model to look up to and to see that girls can do whatever boys do and sometimes even better. It was a nice change of the usual Hollywood stereotype of women portrayed in the movies and tv shows as being weak, vindictive, jealous, petty and sexy. JKR built an incredible girl/woman in Hermione for 5 books, which makes sense since she admitted to seeing herself in Hermione, but in one book she threw all that away and completely destroyed every good quality Hermione was known for and admired for. She was turned into this petty, angry, vindictive, revengeful, jealous, bitter, resentful and every other ugly and negative quality you can think of person. Essentially she was turned into the typical Hollywood stereotype for a ‘woman in love’. Albeit she was still extremely smart, where was the love for her friends? Where was the loyalty? Where was the desire in keeping Harry alive and helping him, caring for him, worrying for him that she has done for the past 5 books? Where was she when Harry was hurt and or missing? Where was the compassion and concern and lets face it, love for Harry that was present in the past 5 books? The old Hermione would not have forgotten that Harry was late because he was beat up and stuck on the train. The Hermione that was destroyed would have never intentionally hurt someone’s feelings or use a boy to make someone jealous. The old strong Hermione I loved was sadly killed and was replaced with this shallow and negative person. If this new Hermione is here to stay for book 7 then I wont be too heartbroken if she doesn’t end up with Harry. This new immature spiteful Hermione deserves Ron and the unhealthy self-destructive relationship she will endure with him.

Hormones can only be blamed for so much so I seriously hope JKR doesn’t try to justify Hermione’s actions with ‘teenage hormones’. Hermione was at times downright despicable and some of the things she said/did was just unforgivable and completely out of character.
I read in that transcript from TLC that JKR said she might have to go back and read books 1-5 since sometimes she is asked something and she cant quite remember things as good as fans can, well I really hope she does re read her books and takes a good look at what she has done to Hermione. I almost dread book 7 because I do not want to discover that Hermione has really changed for the worse and it wasn’t some dark outside force that caused the change.

Ginny has been pretty much absent from the entire series with a few mentions and NO HINT whatsoever that Harry ever thought twice about her, so this whole Ginny possessing Hermione’s qualities from book 1-5 and now all of a sudden being the girl of the series is completely ridiculous and extremely implausible.

So again I really hope more than meets the eye is going on, I mean love potions could not have been mentioned so many times in this book for no reason? If not a love potion than maybe that animal Ginny bought has some sort of love spell that caught Harry’s attention hence his obsession of her that came out of nowhere. Perhaps that was why Crookshanks was trying to get it in that one chapter. Maybe at the beginning when Harry was telling Hermione and Ron the prophecy and she disappeared into black smoke for a few seconds due to the twins invention that was left behind Voldermort did a body switch, or Imperious Curse (sp?), or possessed her body to cause this complete OOCness of Hermione through the rest of the book. Obviously I’m willing to believe anything right now to justify why JKR would willingly destroy such a wonderful character that Hermione used to be.

But if all is as it seems then I agree with JKR, fans do not like being fooled and having H/G being together in the end as well as R/Hr will make me feel like she fooled me and I will not like it and my respect for her as a person and writer will go down a bit.

Call me delusional, optimistic, hopeful, stupid, naïve, whatever you like but I still feel like H/Hr will be together in the end. Anything besides that will just not make sense to me nor be acceptable. But if her intention was to trick us with this book into thinking H/G and R/Hr will be how the story ends then turning the tables on us and getting H/Hr together then her only mistake was not doing a better job at foreshadowing that because as it is so many fans will leave and have left all in a huff because of this book. She has killed people’s hope (not mine) and that is a big big mistake. At least with hope people will come back for more to see the end result. Without hope, why bother?

CANELITA1974 · 07-18-2005, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CANELITA1974

hello everyone!!
i'm not new in this forum, i used to post under different name, anyways

i just want to say- i still believe that Harry and Hermione belong together
and even though i havent read the whole HBP

book i still have faith in our ship

~*8Kay8*~ · 07-18-2005, 08:01 PM

absolutely love the thread title!! and it's true... and so all my auror sibs know, i'm in for the long-haul!

just finished HBP, but i'm not totally disheartened... H/Hr is still as perfect to me as they always have been... if others can't see that, then that's not my problem... that's what shipping couples have always been about to me...

most of the couples i ship probably won't wind up together, but i still think it would be great if they did!

well, now that i've said that... i am going to go...

can't wait til november! GOF is going to be great for my little shipping heart!