Katherine Heigl - Episode 6.08: Invest in Love - GA Episode Discussion - Page 3

IsabelAmandaEvans · 11-14-2008, 06:11 PM

If it's not a tumor, then there are other medical illnesses that can give you hallucations

. From mental illnesses to a lymph disease can give a person visions. Something is definitely wrong with her, or simply Izzie could be suffering from a nervous breakdown.

I really dont think this is too bad considering what took place the past two seasons of the show. Feel like normal GA Land to me

. This is a storyline arc, so there is more than meets the eye. GA normally follow the standard writing tv formulas

. It's probably why I'm a viewer that gets far more thrilled by acting than writing especially in GA since GA's writing hasn't been stellar since S3

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Katherine was incredible with her scenes last night, and I can't wait until to see more of these intense scenes. I hope this means this is Izzie's last season because I rather Katherine go to the movies full time

. GA has been decaying since season 3, and I feel Katherine has indeed outgrown it. The timing is perfect for her departure, so part of me is expecting this to be an exit storyline.

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the new promos are showing her fighting with the ghost Denny, a ghost!

Actually, I don't think he is a ghost at all. The writers are implying that this is all in Izzie's mind. That it is a figment of her imagination. If that is the case, then Izzie is talking no one. Just like we saw a hint of in last night's episode. Plus this is Izzie finally dealing with her issues involving the past. Issues she hasn't dealt with before. A person can't move on without addressing, acknowleding, and dealing with past issues. GA has always been a soap opera, so this is honestly no surprise to me

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**..Mysha..** · 11-14-2008, 10:40 PM

I agree IsabelAmandaEvans, if she's sick with some illness, she most probably is talking to on one

It was just too much for me to digest you know, seeing him first, then talking, later touching and now making love? wow I still need more time hehe..

anyways, ever since we came to know about this thing, we all have been talking and talking and thinking overtime, but the only choice we have got is to wait and see!

**..Mysha..** · 11-14-2008, 10:51 PM

'Grey's Anatomy' Scoop: How Long is Denny Back For?!
Nov 14, 2008, 04:35 PM | by Michael Ausiello

Based on the flood of e-mails I've received in the past 18 hours with subject lines like, "WTF Denny!" and "OMFG Denny!" one or two (zillion) of you were surprised to learn that the late, lamented Denny's return to Grey's Anatomy did not end where it began last week.

Let me try and put it in perspective for you: Denny?! Seriously?!

When I broke the news last month that Jeffrey Dean Morgan would be popping up in the Nov. 6 episode, I was led to believe that it was just for that episode. Now, of course, it's obvious that not only is the dearly departed sticking around for the foreseeable future, but he's also the surprising Izzie suitor that series creator Shonda Rhimes teased over the summer.

"Izzie's got a love story, and it's a big one," she told TV Guide back in August, "one that I've been kicking around in my head for a bit, one that required me to take a huge leap of faith in myself, one that is so secret that I have not told anyone. Not the writers, not anyone."

Now that we all know, the big questions: How long will Denny continue to haunt Izzie? And where the heck is this story going? Although I haven't been able to nail down the exact length of Morgan's new lease on life, I'm told he'll be in at least five episodes. As far as where the story is headed, the most logical theory is that Rhimes is giving Izzie a brain tumor, which if inoperable would grant Katherine Heigl's (alleged) wish to go make movies full time.

But who says this story has to be logical? As Grey's writer Stacy McKee opined at greyswriters.com, "Maybe this is one connection that gets to defy all... common sense. Maybe it just gets to be. Even if it does seem too good to be true."

But is it too good to be true? Um, is it good at all? Or is it so preposterous and so decidedly not Grey's that Izzie's next patient is likely to be the shark that she just jumped? Me, I'm somewhere in the middle right now. But where are you? If the show starts to resemble Supernatural Anatomy (or, if you prefer, Grey's Whisperer), will it still be appointment TV for you?

'Grey's Anatomy' Scoop: How Long is Denny Back For?! | Grey's Anatomy | Ausiello Files | EW.com
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When ever I see anything written about Katie's departure from GA, it makes me so sad

but I am thinking that maybe this REALLY is her last GA season!

nililah · 11-14-2008, 11:19 PM

I still cant believe they are doing it because they want Katie to leave the show I think they are doing it for giving Dizzie another chance or smt

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If the show starts to resemble Supernatural Anatomy (or, if you prefer, Grey's Whisperer), will it still be appointment TV for you?

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**..Mysha..** · 11-14-2008, 11:29 PM

I say DI wont last long, so for now, I want me to believe Katie's not going anywhere

, cos if she stays AI is endgame!

nililah · 11-14-2008, 11:39 PM

but they have damaged AI relationship a lot with this way if u cant be over Denny why are u dating with Alex? it is so unfair to Alex

**..Mysha..** · 11-15-2008, 03:21 AM

Nil, she thought she was over D, even after sex she's shouting at him saying "I got over you, why did u come back" maybe she was over D

, but , he's right there in front of her now, pulling her to him and kissing her...

nililah · 11-15-2008, 03:33 AM

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Nil, she thought she was over D, even after sex she's shouting at him saying "I got over you, why did u come back" maybe she was over D

, but , he's right there in front of her now, pulling her to him and kissing her...

yes I know but seems like she is not over him completely I hope she can handle this situation if not I am sure somebody will be hurt a lot

**..Mysha..** · 11-15-2008, 04:03 AM

Well all I know is, if Denny can feed on Izz, he's gonna be the happy one here

cos no matter what, I say Izz is not going to hurt Alex like she did before with Denny by being all happy, she might keep him out of this ( but for his good ) she has seen him go through with Ava, he said he was so pissed that he can't even breath, Izz knows him, and loves him, she wouldn't want him go through that again, and with Izz being the gf, I guess Alex would be even worse

You said somebody will be hurt, my point is, even if she leaves him for his own good, she won't be happy..until they solve this problem together both would be unhappy!

IsabelAmandaEvans · 11-15-2008, 09:40 AM

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I still cant believe they are doing it because they want Katie to leave the show I think they are doing it for giving Dizzie another chance or smt

In all fairness we have no idea why, but remember one thing Shonda has been consistent with is her love for Denny and Dizzie. So I wouldn't be surprised this done by Shonda's own doing since the cast doesn't know anything about future storylines. If they do know about it, then they speak of it after the fact. Normally the cast is kept in the dark

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cos if she stays AI is endgame!

One thing I learned watching and researching tv shows no supporting ships are endgame until it's over for sure

. Izzie is probably one of the most shippable characters on the show. If she stays, then I can see Izzie hooking up with Mark eventually. There is nothing definite about supporting ships. Remember even Shonda said she is constantly changing the ending

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but they have damaged AI relationship a lot with this way if u cant be over Denny why are u dating with Alex? it is so unfair to Alex

Personally, I thought A/I was damaged long before Denny reappeared

. The moment Alex started to be an ass to Izzie at the end of S4/beginning of S5 is what did it in for me as a fan. As a viewer I thought A/I was already damaged due to that, but that's just me

. That's not to say I didn't find A/I cute in "Life During Wartime" because I thought they were very adoreable in those scenes

. However, in all fairness majority of tv show ships get damaged while a show ages lol.

Regardless, Dizzie will be short-lived. Denny will probably be here for a little bit, and will be gone before Feb. sweeps(at the max or even sooner than that). However, how A/I makes it through this heavily depends on whether Katherine is staying or going. If Katherineis going, then most likely A/I will break-up under the pressure. If Katherine is staying, then A/I could still break-up but reunite later on or stay together showing they can overcome obstacles.

This is something that Izzie has to go through. Should have it been done early? Oh heck yes, but that's GA writers for ya ;rolleyes:. Are there other ways to overcome these issues? There always other options, but GA tends to always go the extreme or more soap opera route. Is Izzie intentionally trying to hurt Alex? I don't think she is this time because Izzie wants to move on. She doesn't understand what is happening to, and she is so confused. Due to her confusion it's all unintentional this time.

I agree with Mysha that one of the reasons Izzie keeping Alex at arm's length because Alex had his fill with crazy this year. This is something I mentioned in the Dizzie thread. She knows and seen the toll that was on Alex due to Ava's mental illness. Izzie's yelling in the CTV Promo shows, at least for me, that she does care about Alex. That in reality she has a boyfriend, and she's stuck there with Denny. She knows it, but she's so confused cause in her mind Denny is touchable. Just ever since he died she wanted to see him and touch him again. I can understand that, but yet it's even more tragic for Izzie because she wants to move on. That would be a trip for anyone. So I don't think she is intentionally trying to hurt Alex. I think she is scared out of her mind, and she should be.

**..Mysha..** · 11-15-2008, 11:40 AM

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Izzie's yelling in the CTV Promo shows, at least for me, that she does care about Alex. That in reality she has a boyfriend, and she's stuck there with Denny. She knows it, but she's so confused cause in her mind Denny is touchable. Just ever since he died she wanted to see him and touch him again. I can understand that, but yet it's even more tragic for Izzie because she wants to move on. That would be a trip for anyone. So I don't think she is intentionally trying to hurt Alex. I think she is scared out of her mind, and she should be.

I totally respect the love her has for D...I can understand she touching,kissing him back,having sex with him after they finally got the chance

...., what I cant digest is HOW D is back from dead? Yea I know she's imagining , but having sex and getting all sweaty to open the door to her current bf? now that's WHAT I was talking about

there are parts of this I cant ever digest...hehe I hope am making sense now

IsabelAmandaEvans · 11-15-2008, 01:17 PM

I think I get what you mean

. Your basically saying how does one get from Point A to Point B given the wonky transition. Correct?

One thing I remember learning from one of my professors in college is that in psychologically not everything can be explained or makes logical sense. In many ways psychologists are still trying to understand the human brain and how it connects to your emotions. In some ways what we know today are mere theories. There are some things a shrink or whatever can theorize on, but still one is just speculating on how one gets to be a crazy, mental illness, and etc. It's easier for someone to have a mental illness or sickness because then you can look at it from a sciencifitic(sp?) point of view. That something is wrong with the chemical within one's brain, cancer, and etc.. If Izzie is having a nervous breakdown of some sort, then one is going to look into the psychological theories. Think of it in the context of the ending voiceover. Sometimes one can't make sense because part of is illogical, and the mind is trying to work the emotions out. Sometimes it's successful sometimes it's not

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It just depends, and how a person's interpretats such things when it's psychological. At this point it's soon to say if Izzie's treatment should be handle with a science(which there is a good chance it could happen due to the occcupational speciality of our characters) if it's some type of disease, or with psychologly if it it's some type of nervous breakdown.

**..Mysha..** · 11-18-2008, 11:39 PM

Question: What the hell is going on with Grey's Anatomy's Denny and Izzie? -- Jackie
Ausiello: Don't be so quick to judge. Who among us hasn't gone to first base with a dead ex at least once in our lives? Exactly.

Question: Okay, I'm officially worried that Izzie really does have a brain tumor and Shonda Rhimes is paving the way for Katherine Heigl's departure at the end of the season. Reassure me, Mike! -- Alex
Ausiello: Hold on, Alex, I've got Shonda Rhimes on the line….She says she heard through the grapevine that I've been flooded with hundreds of e-mails from mostly irate and confused Grey's fans wondering WTF is going on with this bizarre love story between a dead Denny and an alive Izzie….She says she'd like to address Ask Ausiello readers directly via this exclusive statement....

"I think the love triangle with Denny, Izzie, and Alex is among the most interesting we've ever done. Watching the chemistry between Jeffrey and Katherine again has been really touching. I can't wait for our viewers to see where we're taking it. But what it won't involve is Izzie having a brain tumor."

Alright, so the brain tumor theory is out the window. What does that leave in the way of logical explanations? Scroll down to the comments section and start brainstorming. You never know, I may run your idea in next week's Ask Ausiello and pass it off as my own!
Ask Ausiello: Spoilers on 'NCIS,' 'Big Love,' 'Grey's Anatomy,' 'The Office,' 'House,' 'Smallville,' 'Brothers & Sisters,' and More! | Ask Ausiello | Ausiello Files | EW.com

nililah · 11-19-2008, 05:36 AM

1. I have already known Shonda thinks that the fans so love this triangle thing well maybe it was for season 2 but now people are confused I mean the man is dead now come on

2. Also there is no exact triangle here I mean Izzie jumped to Denny so fast she really ignores Alex's presence

3. I thought the brain tumor case would be logical explanition for this crap but now things are more complicated

4. "Watching the chemistry between Jeffrey and Katherine again has been really touching"

again maybe in season 2 it was touching but now NO WAY

**..Mysha..** · 11-19-2008, 06:31 AM

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I thought the brain tumor case would be logical explanition for this crap but now things are more complicated

Totally agree Nil! this is even more confusing now

And yea, in season two it was totally different, now this is not acceptable!

how can Shonda make love triangles with dead ppl?