*Lethe's Bramble*

[img]smilies/rotfl.gif[/img] those are the best!!!

Lady_Amabel

lol i ;love those lines!

Spike's sunflower

Oh! another scene that came in my mind is the beginning of "Death things" and the suggestion of the handcufs ... very shocking.

Anita

Scythe

Maybe she was there to help James make it seem more realistic! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] You know his expression and everything [img]smilies/smirk.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eyebrows.gif[/img]

Scythe

I wonder if they actually used them...and when she said "never" it sounded so much like she meant "always"

Spike's sunflower

Yes you are right... Buffy always gave the impression of been using reverse psychology too much... no meant yes and yes meant no.

Anita

ROCKSTAR

If a feminist read that she'd have a heart attack [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img]

But its true! Buffy's mechanism defense made her too hard to read and Spike lost almost all his intuition with her after falling in love.

Spike's sunflower

This comment leads me to the other scene that passed the censorship ... my most hated one... the almost rape in Seeing Red... IMO Buffy was as guilty as Spike because when she said no she meant yes and Spike just acted like the used to... when she meant yes... don't hate me for saying this please. I think that scene ruined Spuffy for a long time.

Anita

ROCKSTAR

I guess she forgot what Spike really was and he reacted like an animal instead of a rational person. I blame both of them for the AR scene but most of all I blame MARTI! [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img]

Though now that I think about it wasn't such a bad idea... Spike WAS an animal on a leash, and he was desperate and obsessed. It isn't so uncommon to confuse power with will.

I explain:

Maybe Spike felt he had the power to make Buffy love him and sex was the only was he found.

Now, Buffy may have felt that she had the power to use Spike and make him use her but at the end no one had any power over the other or over themselves.

All they had was their own will and they were so seduced with one another that they lied to themselves about their feelings. When the truth came out, it was ugly.

Spike's sunflower

Nikki I like your post... but I have to say Marti Noxon really screwed Spuffy.

Anita

ROCKSTAR

That's a way to see it and I used to share that POV a few weeks ago. [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img]

spikesplacee

that line had me howling... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

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ROCKSTAR

And about Waiting in the Wings... THE WHOLE EPISODE [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img]

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Alea

These lines are hilarious! I'm surprised most of them got through also..

JBOO46

Yeah BTVS definately had its share of "questionable" moments