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Old 07-24-2018, 10:01 PM
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1x09 "Back Breaker" Episode Discussion (July 26, 2018)





Tandy is in a downward spiral, lashing out at strangers and loved ones alike. As Tyrone tries to pull her out of it and reconcile with his own family, his success is upended.

In the new Marvel series, Tyrone Johnson (Aubrey Joseph) is Cloak, a superhero endowed with the powers of teleportation and intangibility, with a link to the 'Darkforce dimension'.
Tandy Bowen (Olivia Holt) is Dagger, who can create 'daggers of light', heal people and purge addictions. Although the pair are from very different backgrounds,
they'll have to find some common ground to get the best out of their newfound powers.



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Old 07-25-2018, 04:27 AM
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Thanks for the new thread! Can't believe the season is almost over
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Old 07-25-2018, 09:24 AM
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Just this and one more episode left.
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Old 07-25-2018, 08:30 PM
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Awwe, my baby Tandy. It'll be painful to watch her like that.
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These last 2 eps are going to be insane, I just know it.
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A new episode tonight.
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Voodoo lady rum spit her way to a Roxxon pipe! Are various parts of the storyline finally coming together?!

Priest guy is back and giving a hero lesson how fitting! And he is explaining how heroes need to be born again. This is where we are in this story right now. He's such a good teacher

Queen detective found some pretty blatant evidence. I hope the shady cops won't get rid of it

Ty is obviously disappointed by his parents subdued reactions about the progress made in Billy's case (progress Ty made happen), but they are afraid to get their hopes up and it's understandable because in fact there might be no progress.

Evita being worried about her aunt is really cute. I'm really interested in her talking to Ty about things her aunt have said! Will this lead to her finally meeting or knowing more about Tandy?

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Tandy is back to playing guys to get their rich kid stuff Actually wow what she wants this time is something different! She can do more than see hopes she can steal them and feel them for herself

Okay so Mr. Priest seems to just be narrating the episode.

Oh wow Ty just LOST IT in the hallway His mom was snapping at work also! And Priest dude is trying to be Ty's voice of reason, but the struggle is real so Ty gets to hold up some books for awhile.

MINAAAA! and Ivan!! Tandy struggles seeing them together which is understandable given she is in a rough place right now due to what she has learned about her father. Aaaand Tandy has become some kind of hope junkie. Alright Tandy is hurting, but she's really going into bitch mode here. I know I know it's part of the heroes journey! Still annoying Poor Mina got the hope sucked out of her and she felt so terrible she killed one of those bees she loves so much!

Was that the water cooler assassin lady? Yo Liam's back and Tandy bailed him out and she shows him her special church and seems to essentially be saying everything he's always wanted to hear.

Ooooh Ty you don't need to be mean to Mr. Priest like that, it's uncalled for. He even took a swing at him holy crap So Mr. Priest had a drinking problem? It led to an accident?

Loved Ty somehow busting into Liam's hopes and stopping the fake wedding that Tandy was trying to drain the hope away from.

This whole episode feels so out of character. I mean I know it's not and emotions are just super heightened and exaggerated right now, but yeah. Messiness all around!

QUEEN DETECTIVE THREW HERSELF AN ICE BREAKER! okay but now she's getting her butt kicked by Connors and everyone else just watched? That's very telling.

WOAH EVITA! She pushed Tandy out of her head! That was actually really cool how did she do that?! Does it have to do with voodoo magic?

Ty and Tandy fighting. Necessary nonsense to get through! Tandy is a little too quick to whip out that dagger sometimes.

Evita is the one making the Tandy figurine!

Mina has to flee for her life

Ty and his mom heart to heart these are always great and also quite heartbreaking. her fear is so alive and makes too much sense in this messed up world Aaaand oh god there are the cops! His mom immediately tells him to run And he does without his handy cloak!

NO WAY ASSASSIN IS AT TANDY'S MOM'S HOUSE So that WAS the water cooler lady!
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so when she sees their hopes and "steals" them. do they know longer have those desires anymore? her stealing their hopes seems to be effecting her in a bad way.

its about time liam got bailed out of jail (how long was he in there for?)

she talks about wanting a future with liam but then steals his dream of that. then was he the one that robbed her? he must be cuz who else knew she lives there besides ty?

so the cop who killed ty's brother goes free? he must have a ton of connections. he just beat the detective girl infront of a room full of cops and nobody cared. that is so messed up.

evita now knows about tandy and she didnt take that well at all. how did she push her out of her head. does she have powers too?

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It does seem like Tandy steals their hopes permanently. Does that mean Ty can remove people's fears?

Yeah, pretty sure Liam stole her money. Surprise, surprise, considering that unsecure hiding place.

I heard all the cops in that precinct were corrupt, but I didn't expect them to be that level of scumbag, just standing around watching.

Loved Evita this episode. Lovely, badass voodoo priestess.

Agreed, what Tandy did to Mina was totally uncalled for. She has been nothing but nice to her.

Looks like Delgado killed a child while drunk driving and that scared him toward church.

Thank god the hitwoman didn't kill Melissa. When Tandy got home and nobody answered I was dreading another Fuchs situation.

I just knew they were going to end the penultimate episode on a cliffhanger. Mean. lol
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Oh wow. This episode sounds go insane.
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^There was definitely a lot of craziness jam packed in there
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I don't get why Evita was called Tandy Tiny though... she's not any smaller than Evita. Granted maybe cause she was hostile and didn't know her name.

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It does seem like Tandy steals their hopes permanently.
Wonder if she is able to give them back, or do they actually come back to them...? As the effects only seemed to last on Tandy temporarily.

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Yeah, pretty sure Liam stole her money. Surprise, surprise, considering that unsecure hiding place.
Not that surprised considering she left him there... But she did in fact get all that money all at once, would have been nice if he stuck around but maybe he just wants to split. She didn't seem to care too much that he took it.

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I heard all the cops in that precinct were corrupt, but I didn't expect them to be that level of scumbag, just standing around watching.
That surprised me too... I mean sure give him a hit or two for her hitting him... but that was too much.

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Agreed, what Tandy did to Mina was totally uncalled for. She has been nothing but nice to her.
I'm hoping she gets a chance to apologize for that. Looks like Mina is getting chased by things just like what was happening in the dream world... So... Tandy you never did say yes or no to the job proposal. Granted with Peter trying to kill her that would be an unsafe work environment.

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Thank god the hitwoman didn't kill Melissa. When Tandy got home and nobody answered I was dreading another Fuchs situation.
Yeah, I got the feeling she was going to find her mom dead... I think this hitwoman bit off more than she can chew with Tandy though... Next episode will def be interesting!

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she talks about wanting a future with liam but then steals his dream of that. then was he the one that robbed her?
Could be? Or come to realize he made a mistake down the road if/when it wears off... Don't know if he'd come back though.

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Tandy is a little too quick to whip out that dagger sometimes.
Not always a bad thing, good defense mechanism. Hopefully she is able to get one into the assassin lady. So I guess this will get them back after Roxxon... sending an assassin to kill her mom, a pipe exploding and sending crazies after Mina, Evita's aunt with the Roxxon pipe...

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Evita is the one making the Tandy figurine!
That's some recall to be able to make that from meeting her once... Though I guess she did make an impression.

ETA: Darn them... I might have to give in and watch the preview with them ending me on a cliffhanger! I think they would have tried to kill her whether or not she decided to take the money offer or not, though I guess beforehand she could have used the evidence as leverage if anything bad happened.
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That's a pretty cool new 'addition' to her power. Though it is also such a cruel one. Tandy is indeed downward spiraling, oh my.

She was so mean to like everyone in this episode, wow.
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Except her mom, I don't think she was going to be mean to her either.
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