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Angel episode discussion 4x12: Calvary
The gang try to re-ensoul Angel, but his soul is missing, and they must find a way to get it back. Meanwhile, Lilah tries to strike a deal with Angelus.
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This is my favorite ep in Season 4, Its one of the only good ones.
I just think Cordelia and Angelus should've seen eachother face to face and rise hell together. Evil Cordelia was hot but the whole Connor thing and being Pregnant was not. If Cordelia wasn't pregnant, I believe her and Angelus would've talked. Then when Angel is resouled Angel and Cordelia would've confronted eachother, then a big fight scene. It would've been prefect!!! What do think should've happened? __________________
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Unfortunately, that couldn't happen because CC was pregnant. From what I understand, the original plan was for CC to go evil and the finale they would have a big showdown. I would've much preferred this, but it would be kinda silly watching CC trying to fight off Angel when she was pregnant.
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CAVALRY
The Good; Angelus is so evil and conniving you wonder if Holtz and co had a point? Altogether a great episode with so many wonderful scenes The Bad; ? Best line: Cordelia; (stabbing Lilah) "Why do you think I let him out you stupid bitch?" Jeez, how did they get away with that? Some nastily implied racism when Angelus goads Gunn (Liam of course was also pretty racist to Gunn and Wesley in 'Spin the Bottle'). The vamps killing the firemen is also nasty but worst of all the tragedy of the vamped little girl, you realise why Holtz killed his daughter. Apocalypses: 5 Angel Cliches Inverting the Hollywood cliche; Fred wants to continue her relationship with Gunn after she learns of Wes and Lilah. But he turns her down, obviously been getting lessons in quiet dignity from the Groo (Riley could have done with some). In disguise; 8 DB get's his shirt off; 12 Cheap Angel; 6 Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 13 Wes: 6 Gunn; 4 Lorne; 4 Fred; 2 Fang gang knocked out: CC by Angelus Cordy: 14 Angel: 16 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 4 Groo; 1 Kills: 1 demon for Gunn Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons Angel; 41 vamps, 57 and 1/2 demons, 5 zombies, 8 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 5 zombies, 2 humans Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 11 vamps+ 13 demons, 5 zombies, 1 human. Groo; 1 demon Fred; 3 vamp+ 1 demon, 5 zombies Connor; 12 vamps, 5 zombies, 2 demons Fang Gang go evil: CC and how! Cordy: 3 Angel: 3 Gunn; 1 Wes; 1 Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 4 Angel: 10 Fred; 2 Wes; 1 Gunn; 1 Characters killed: 255 Recurring characters killed; alas poor Lilah, she was evil but I always felt there was hope for her. 9; Total number of Angel Investigations: Angel, Gunn, Fred, Lorne, Wes, CC Angel Investigations shot: Angelus by Lilah (if she still had her pistol why not use that when Wes enters her hideaway?). CC takes an arrow Angel: 12 Wes; 1 Packing heat; Gunn with the flamethrower we saw in 'Dad' Wes; 7 Doyle; 1 Angel; 3 Gunn; 1 Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Interestingly it's Gunn who breaks up with Fred rather than the other way around Cordy: 5 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis+Groo+Connor Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 3; Virginia, the bleached blonde and Lilah Gunn; 1 Fred Fred; 1 Gunn Groo; 1Cordy Kinky dinky: Angelus threatens to rape Fred to death. He also tells an aghast Fred about Wes and Lilah. Angelus thinks Lilah wears a thong. Captain Subtext; Angelus thinks Wes is quite the dish 'if I swung that way'. Lilah comments that Lorne's suits make him look like Liberace. Lilah calls Fred 'honey' and asks if CC is trying to 'turn her on?'. Know the face, different character; 4 Parking garages; 6, Guantanamo Bay; Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony What the fanficcers thought; read an interesting one once where Angelus wipes AI out but then Dru get's resouled and forms her own heroic gang with Lilah, Kate, Gwen, Oz, Justine, Bethany, Ethan Rayne etc Questions and observations; Interestingly in this ep we're told a soul can be destroyed which I didn't think was possible. We learn that Angel always suspected that Gunn killed Sidel. The soul-stealer was buried by the Chumash who are the American Indian tribe also featured in 'Pangs'. Nice scene with Connor and Gunn bonding during the digging. Well, hands up who saw this twist coming? Liars! Shocking an all pretty damn brilliant. But you know what, it only get's better from now on! Nice scene at the end where CC and Lilah almost seem to bond a little. Marks out of 10; 9/10 |
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