Gilmore Girls - Season Six: How was it for you?

iheartbsb · 05-29-2006, 07:16 PM

Without trying to bring down the seemingly low morale of this board, I would like to pose a question....

Was it the characters who seemed written "Out of Character" this season? Or was it the entire show?

Also, how was this season for you? Compared to years past?

This was a sort of discussed in the Neshbe thread just a little bit, but I wondered what others thought as well. I'm really hoping to read others opinions, but I'm also hoping it can be done in a civil way. I don't know if anyone will respond, but please try and be respectful of other people's opinions. I know some people really enjoyed the whole season and I'd like to hear why.

Here is what I think:
It's the show that went completely OOC. The writers seemed to throw everything out the window and almost start from scratch on this season. I did like episodes 1 through part of 9, and there were likeable moments scattered throughout the rest of the season, but it was missing something.

Yes, Lorelai wasn't speaking her mind, but that can be attributed to the fact that she tried speaking her mind to Rory and lost her for 3 months (or 6 months depending on what planet you live on). So she was afraid to speak--however, in previous seasons, she wouldn't have gone 6 months (or however long it was) without saying anything to Luke. Yes, she loves him and wants to give him his space, but there's also scenes from Clamor and Clangor that negate that.

Then with Luke, we can attribute his blindness to April. And he's never been the type of guy to tell all sorts of people that he's dating/engaged to Lorelai. He's rather private. And he didn't want to mess things up with April, so he just never said anything--which bothered me ALOT, but I sort of understood it. And then as he said in A Vineyard Valentine, he gets in his own and head and forgets the people around him. He's always been like that. However, he's never been THIS blind about Lorelai for THIS long.

And Rory, well, I don't know. You could usually tell why she was "in love" with a particular boy, but with Logan, I don't know. I think that whole storyline is dumb and if I had my way, I'd try to get Milo back and salvage that relationship--but I know he doesn't want to come back. But actually, I like that Mitchum finally explained why Logan has to go to London, because he's right. And it's funny, I actually paid more attention to Rory's storyline in the finale and actually felt a bit of sadness for her. Maybe that was the intention of the finale because Lorelai typically tends to overshadow Rory a bit.

As for Richard and Emily, they seemed normal for most of the season. Especially with all the wedding/engagement stuff. And even in DMG (even though I hated that episode), she was her usual stuff. I just wish she'd have said something to Lorelai earlier about the situation.

And so it's not necessarily the characters themselves that went OOC on the viewers, it's the show as a whole. Nothing seems the same. Although, Christopher is still extremely creepy and gross. He's got one rung up on Jason now on the ladder of Lorelai's men. lol.

I think you can tell I'm a JavaJunkie and I'm not a fan of Christopher coming back at all. And I don't really pay as much attention to Rory's storylines as I probably should because I just don't like the way they are written. I'm sorry this got so long. Part of it I posted in an LJ.

Season 6 Episode Threads:
Threads for 6.06-6.17 were lost in a board crash in April 2006.
6.01 - New and Improved Lorelai
6.02 - Fight Face
6.03 - The UnGraduate
6.04 - Always a Godmother, Never a God
6.05 - We've Got Magic to Do
6.18 - The Real Paul Anka
6.19 - I Get A Sidekick Out of You
6.20 - Super Cool Party People
6.21 - Driving Miss Gilmore
6.22 - Partings

AngelaiDanes · 05-29-2006, 08:46 PM

Well heres my opinion of season 6 for what its worth. Hope it makes some sense. I loved all your thoughts and agreed with most of them.

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Originally Posted by iheartbsb

Was it the characters who seemed written "Out of Character" this season? Or was it the entire show?

I mentioned this at the Neshe thread: that it was more the length of time the characters showcased their faults that bothered me. Like Luke is usually a private person but they took it to the extreme this year by having him hide April for months from the woman he is engaged to and made him so oblivious to Lorelai's feelings. Luke and Lorelai also have some communication problems but again this year they dragged it out most of the season that it got tired and boring and ridiculous to me. Years past this would have lasted a few episodes at most and not been so damn depressing. So I guess it was more the show for me or the focus of the show. I hate that Lorelai became this broken woman who couldnt ever say how she felt until she went off the deep end in the finale. And I hate that Luke was just clueless. I found no justifable reason Lorelai and April couldnt be around each other and it infuriated me.

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Also, how was this season for you? Compared to years past?

God I hated most of it. Of course I'm in the minority who loved season 4. My problem is I am not a Chris fan, or a Rory/Logan fan. I am also a Java Junkie, so what was supposed to be good? CL and RL ended together and I hate both couples with a passion. I also hated the April storyline and wish ASP would have explored marriage for LL, and a baby of their own. I noticed most people who liked this season either is a BB or love RL. I hate the drama the most. Ive always liked the more comedy driven episodes because when its full of tons of drama I get annoyed watching it and it just seems like a regular run of the mill family drama to me.

Another reason I had a huge issue with this season is because I feel ASP wanted us to forget the past 5 seasons had happened. All of a sudden Lorelai wasnt Lorelai anymore, she was broken reserved sad Lorelai. She forgot how much Chris uses her when its convenient for him and what happened in WBB was magically erased from her memory. Seriously how can Lorelai ever be close enough to sleep with Chris after WBB and breaking up her and Luke??? Ive heard ASP wanted to explore CL (rumor) since she couldnt in season 3, but IMO it failed miserably because too much time has past and too much stuff has happened between CL, LL, and Lorelai in general for her to go back to Chris. Like I said she wanted us to not take previous seasons into account.

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Yes, Lorelai wasn't speaking her mind, but that can be attributed to the fact that she tried speaking her mind to Rory and lost her for 3 months (or 6 months depending on what planet you live on).

I actually like that spec.

It would make sense that since she thinks she lost Rory for months due to her speaking her mind and she was probably so afraid of losing Luke if she did speak up to him about his neglect that she kept quiet hoping things would settle down with Luke and go back to the norm without a confrontation taking place. Part of her probably felt if she even complained a little Luke would assume shes making him choose her or April (which Lorelai would never do). I also think part of her wanted to understand why Luke was focusing on his daughter and nothing else, since thats what she did with Rory for 18 years of her life. She wanted to relate to Luke but from a distance to avoid conflict.

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So she was afraid to speak--however, in previous seasons, she wouldn't have gone 6 months (or however long it was) without saying anything to Luke.

This is my exact problem with this long storyline. Like I said it would be in character for Lorelai to avoid speaking up for a couple episodes, but 6 months was way OOC for her to say nothing. It worked my last nerve. I cant stand unhappy quiet Lorelai. I just cant.

Agree about it happening with Luke as well. It just went on for too long and thats why i hated the SL and felt it was OOC for the show. The drama wears on me.

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And Rory, well, I don't know. You could usually tell why she was "in love" with a particular boy, but with Logan, I don't know. I think that whole storyline is dumb and if I had my way, I'd try to get Milo back and salvage that relationship--but I know he doesn't want to come back.

ICA. I got why she loved Dean and Jess and I never was a real shipper of Rory's relationships, but I got why she liked them. But with Logan ASP (IMO) has done a poor job at explaining why these two love each other or why theyre so committed. I dont see why Rory loves Logan or why Logan loves Rory. I didnt mind when they were casual, but now the only storylines Rory gets is focused on her relationship with Logan, we never see her in class anymore, or with Paris, or her mom, etc etc. At least with Dean and Jess she had other interests.

I wish she would get an interesting storyline (without Logan) to distract me from the train wreck that is LL at the moment.

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But actually, I like that Mitchum finally explained why Logan has to go to London, because he's right. And it's funny, I actually paid more attention to Rory's storyline in the finale and actually felt a bit of sadness for her. Maybe that was the intention of the finale because Lorelai typically tends to overshadow Rory a bit.

I actually didnt mind Rory and Logan in the finale because next to LL they were the bright shining part of the whole gross episode. I like that Rory was mature enough to realize that it will be good for Logan to go to London even if theyre apart. She realizes Logan has a lot of growing up to do if theyll make it in the end. This is a good test for their relationship moving away from the college party scene and more about maturity and sacrifice.

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As for Richard and Emily, they seemed normal for most of the season. Especially with all the wedding/engagement stuff. And even in DMG (even though I hated that episode), she was her usual stuff. I just wish she'd have said something to Lorelai earlier about the situation.

I normally wasnt focused on them to a large degree in previous seasons but they were the only part I enjoyed watching for most of the year. They were in character and definitely the more comical parts of the episodes which I loved.

I loved Emily in DMG, and I hated that episode.

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Although, Christopher is still extremely creepy and gross. He's got one rung up on Jason now on the ladder of Lorelai's men. lol.

I know Chris stayed his usual disgusting, loser self so I guess that was in character. I hated that he was in it so much and that the first second Lorelai was vunerable and needed a real friend, he prayed on her and took advantage, he really hasnt matured. So sick.

Jason was also creepy but didnt annoy me nearly as much seeing as I knew that wouldnt last and he had no true connection to Lorelai to stay around a while. But with Chris who knows.

Lorelai seems to have a thing for creepy guys.

I guess in summary, season 6 is without a doubt the worst season of the show for all the reasons I gave. I hope DR can turn it around and make it more fun to watch in the 7th (and most likely final) season.

lukelover87 · 05-29-2006, 08:59 PM

Juli I'm glad to see you brought this over!

I'll add my 2 cents from earlier...

I think that it was more those two characters that were OOC. This was kinda being discussed on the Neshbe thread earlier but here are my thoughts please let me know what you think.

As you know ASP was planning on going down the C/L path in season 7. So in order for ASP to justify the crazy pairing she totally (in my opinion) butchered her characters. She made Lorelai this woman who wouldn't speak her mind. And after 6 years of watching the show we all know this wasn't Lorelai. Example Lorelai in The Clamor and Clangor She always spoke her mind. This was completely out of character for her. And Luke she made him completely oblivious to Loreali's feelings. And once again after watching this show for 6 years we know this isn't the case. Example Luke in Lazy, Hazy, Crazy Days. All of this lead up to the finale. Luke still acting crazy and Lorelai opening her mouth a little too late and in the end, we find her in Two-Minute-Man's bed. That was the ony way to justify the C/L pairing. Making the characters act extremely out of character.

(I hope that made sense. It's getting late. LOL.

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But thankfully ASP won't be back next season so hopefully DR is smarter than ASP is and not go down the C/L road.

iheartbsb · 05-29-2006, 09:03 PM

LOL Carolyn! I'm glad you shared your thoughts because I liked them too! And I liked reading your response too, GB7becks82.

fox24 · 05-29-2006, 09:36 PM

Okay here comes the R/L I loved this season because it showed growth in R/L I loved that Logan was able to confront Rory when she was being passive aggressive something Luke wasen't able to do with Lorelai. I didn't like what happend with L/L or what was done but Lorelai was afraid of losing Luke like she lost Rory. Luke was trying to adjust to having April and got sidetracked. I believed what happend was there fault I don't blame one or the other

potostfbeyeluvr · 06-06-2006, 10:20 AM

Tortute. Out of character, mind-slaughtering torture. Makes watching reruns painful.

italian jj · 06-06-2006, 10:23 AM

Not GG

IncaJ. · 06-06-2006, 10:51 AM

Well as I am an E/R fan, this season was a let down... even though Emily was portrayed better this season compared to S5. She wasn't that OOC as in S5, but E/R didn't have one significant storyline, and many things were simply left out... like in TPDR, why didn't they show what happened after Emily returned home from the airport?
Then there were a lot of things that simply disappeared: The newspaper announcment? No one even mentions it? Oh please!

Then as I am a LL fan as well, the season was a complete let down in that area as well...

I agree with whoever said it that episodes 1-9 were okay, the rest was just...

So all in all it is definitely not my favourite season.. it lacked the spark, the humor, the wit... everything that used to make GG special!

~~ CherylS ~~ · 06-06-2006, 11:12 AM

Very poorly written and horrendous storylines. In other words the pitts. I will never watch one of these episodes again.

FuzzyCerts · 06-06-2006, 11:38 AM

Up until 6.08, S6 was good, but then it turned into a soap opera. Around 6.16 ASP lost interest in her own show, wrote herself into a corner, couldn´t find a way out, turned L/L into completely idiots and finished with a totally ridiculous ending.
So, I want 14 hours of my life back !!!

MickeyJr3000 · 06-06-2006, 12:01 PM

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How was season six for you?

Crappy.

Why?

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Originally Posted by FuzzyCerts

Up until 6.08, S6 was good, but then it turned into a soap opera. Around 6.16 ASP lost interest in her own show, wrote herself into a corner, couldn´t find a way out, turned L/L into completely idiots and finished with a totally ridiculous ending.
So, I want 14 hours of my life back !!!

WORD.
I didn't mind Super Cool Party People actually...in terms of the L/L storyline (well, except for Luke's horrendous reasoning as to why he never let Lorelai meet April yet). The rest I was going to 'accept' considering I really hoped for things to turn around already. But it just got worse after that.

I would even say there were issues pre-6.08, namely how the Lorelai/Rory storyline was dealt with in some ways. Especially since I felt no real resolution from what caused the rift in the first place. The story revolved around Rory/Logan, and Luke/Lorelai for WAY too long. Just throwing different curve balls at both relationships to make them breakup/makeup/have more drama, because heaven forbid the relationship can't be exciting with character-driven stories. Must.Have.Contrived.SoapOpera.Obstacles. Whether it be cheating, LLD's, cheating, a near-death experience which the character recovers from in 2 weeks, ex-lovers creating love triangle messes (HOW MANY? 2 or 3 PER COUPLE??).

Hee. Ranting was very much fun. I thank you, Juli, for starting this thread.

princess isabel · 06-06-2006, 01:03 PM

Well, as a RL fan first and foremost, I was pretty happy with this season. I wasnt crazy about how the RL estrangement was handled, or the bridesmaids debacle. But in the end, it matured their relationship, and made them more committed to each other, so Im not complaining. Plus, their scenes in the finale made me cry. Alexis and Matt did a great job there.

I didnt care for Milo's reappearances, as they were complete plot contrivinces, and IMO, utterly unbelievable. The #1 rule of writing, is show dont tell. So, if they were going to make Jess all of a sudden become a hero, they should have laid groundwork for it. And they didnt. We hadnt heard about or from Jess since Season 4, and all of a sudden he's a completely different person with the same face.

I enjoyed Logans growth from last season to this season. While last season, we knew he was committed to Rory, this season we got to see just how much.

As for LL. Well, they seemed off to me from the proposal. I didnt like Lorelai's reasoning for proposing. And I didnt like how Luke kept April a secret for two months, and then completely shut Lorelai out of that part of his life. I understand how he wanted to form a bond with his daughter, but he could have gradually introduced April to Lorelai instead of completely shutting her out.

I also liked see Chris back, and his relationship with Rory improving.

There were alot of holes this season, particularly where L/L were concerned, but all in all, I cant complain.

Zutfan05 · 06-06-2006, 02:56 PM

This season is definitly my least favorite, it was lacking in almost everything.

The characters seemed OOC, especially Luke and Lorelai.

The Rory/Lorelai rift was dragged out too long for me, and their relationship has been lacking since then. The Anna/April thing was so obviously forced down our throats just to keep L/L from the altar longer.

There were hardly any town meeting, festivals or townies (one of my favorite parts of the show). There was also hardly any FND or E/R this season and the show just seemed to be off the entire second half except for a few well writted episodes and scenes.

For me, Rory/Logan was the most enjoyable part of the season, everythign else was lacking for me and every episode made me depressed in one way or another. Where did all the comedy go?

Then there was waay too much Chris (my least favorite character ever on this show) and C/L seemed way to random after two seasons of L/L. The final scene hurt, and the fans didn't deserve the crap of this season, the show wasn't really well written and i think DP and ASP just ran out of ideas. I can't wait to see how the new writers and DR are going to fix this.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyCerts

Up until 6.08, S6 was good, but then it turned into a soap opera. Around 6.16 ASP lost interest in her own show, wrote herself into a corner, couldn´t find a way out, turned L/L into completely idiots and finished with a totally ridiculous ending.
So, I want 14 hours of my life back !!!

exactly, are horrible ending to a season that was lacking and almost painful to watch at points.

curlyhead · 06-06-2006, 03:30 PM

I liked only a few episodes and they were far from perfect. I stopped taping the show at some point and never watched any reruns. I actually have trouble distinguishing the episodes from one another. They all seemed to run together after a while.

What I liked:
1) Jess's first return: This was a well-written episode and I was never a fan of R/J. But his return cemented the fact that I cannot stand Logan/Rory. I liked how Rory finally woke up and made some positive changes.
2) Kelly Bishop in almost every scene was still at the top of her game. Noteworthy scenes: the plane one with Lorelai, the den scene with Richard at Rory's birthday party
3) Lauren Graham almost has the ability to make me like just about every scene with Lorelai. She is still phenomenal.
4) The den scene with Richard coming to the realization that he and Emily had failed.

What I didn't like:
1) There was not one meaningful Rory/Lorelai conversation about anything all season. After their reunion, we never saw one scene where they really discussed all that had happened.
2) Luke was a dolt almost all season long. He acted like a flake.
3) Logan/Rory have an unhealthy relationship in my opinion. The only scene I liked with them was when they yelled at each other after Jess left.
4) Zach, Brian, TJ, Taylor, Kirk, Liz and every annoying chracter who graced SH.
5) Lack of humor - I can't think of one funny scene.
6) Lane getting married was such a throwaway story. No point to it at all except to give us the slightly funny double wedding thing, but please, I don't want to actually see them married next season.
7) Lack of romance for L/L. The obvious distance between them in the first few episodes was glaring and unnecessary.
8) Paul Anka - when a show introduces a dog, it's in trouble.
9) Logan's idiotic drunken friends.
10) Very little Paris who still offers some good one-liners.
11) Did I mention TJ, because he really sucked the life out of every scene he was in?
12) Basically about 18 of the 22 episodes were below average in my opinion.

iheartbsb · 06-06-2006, 10:55 PM

You all bring up really good points and opinions...so now a question that hasn't been answered by some...was it the show that was OOC or was it a specific character or characters?

And curlyhead, I completely agree with you on Lane's wedding. It made for a semi-cute episode, but I think it was only put in place to distract from Luke and Lorelai who should have been getting married.