just stand still

I see it differently. When she went to see Anna, she told her that things would be different once Luke/Lorelai were married because engaged is not married and engaged people breakup all the time. This would've been running through her head. That once they were married she'd finally be able to spend time with April and be a part of the life he was currently keeping from her. It made sense. There was a complete reason behind it.

As for her not speaking up earlier she was afraid of pushing him and having him break up with her again like in WBB. He said he needed time and she didn't give it to him and they ended things.

I was an LP fan too but yeah, I definitely felt the same way towards the LLC triangle as I did BLPs haha

I think she genuinely thought she could be happy with Christopher but then he did things that were completely opposite of Luke. Like throughout the season she tells Christopher she loves him a fair amount, like she's trying to convince him, herself and us. I don't think you even hear L/L say those words to each other once when they're together. Not until the Martha's vineyard where Luke mentions it and then the ultimatum.

Then Chris doesn't think it's important to check in with Rory on changes that would also effect her life, where Luke knew Lorelai wouldn't even want to plan their wedding until things were good between Lorelai/Rory. There are some really creepy parallels.

pinkpaisley

Don't forget at the beginning of s6 when Lorelai wanted to wait with setting a wedding date until things were right with Rory, it was Luke who was impatient and afraid it wasn't going to happen and then he made her wait. He waited 2 months to tell her he had a daughter. That's insane.

I do think Lorelai should have spoken up, but he left before for much less than this. They had such poor communication through it all, it was frustrating to watch. So them apologizing to each other did seem natural to me.

But her marrying Chris was her just trying to be happy knowing full well it was bound to end in a divorce. She could never depend on Chris and she couldn't this time.

just stand still

I'm still just annoyed, y'know? Luke used to be able to tell what Lorelai was thinking just by looking at her and when they were together in S6 he didn't realize how miserably she was. Like who would want to be living a life so completely separate from their partner?

I'm mad that she just sulked around and didn't say anything until the ultimatum, I truly do.

You knew from the get-go that the relationship with Chris would never work because she didn't actually love him and he was never that guy. He was always an amazing possibility but he's flaky, immature and she would never be able to depend on him. Obviously it was no different this time.

Slayerette89

Yeah, but that was how Anna felt, not how Luke felt. Imo he was just overwhelmed with this huge change in his life (having a daughter) and tried to cope with it by withdrawing into himself and slowing down other big changes in his life (moving in with Lorelai, marrying her). I don’t think getting married right away would have been right for him, which is why I felt bad for him when he agreed to it in 7.01 just to keep Lorelai. Slightly reminded me of that LP scene in s5 of oth where the writers had Peyton apologize to Lucas for not marrying him when he wanted, which I was also not a fan of.
Either that was deliberate to emphasize that Loralai is trying too hard or somebody in the writing room got really fond of ILYs. I noticed both CL and RL throwing them around more often than usual mid s7. But, even ILYs this season aside, I too always had the impression they were paralleling LL and CL, showing that Luke would be better for Lorelai, always being there for her when Chris would let her down.
Yet he still let her have her time and handle the situation the way she thought best (despite disagreeing with the way she was handling her fight with Rory), without ever giving her an ultimatum. Which made her “You're gonna have to figure out how April fits into our lives, not the other way around” line from the s6 finale sound even worse. Luke was never like that about the Rory situation during the first half of the season. I do agree that him not telling Lorelai about April for 2 months was a bad decision. I’m good with him apologizing about that and about not noticing or addressing how unhappy Lorelai has gotten in their relationship. But imo he really didn’t need to apologize for not being ready for the wedding exactly when Lorelai wanted it.

I’m through with eps 6-9:

- The development of Lane’s relationship with her mom is one of my favorite sls. And lol @ Mrs Kim moving in with LZ, while Brian goes to her house. Where’s Gil this season though?

- Love Lane hanging out with April.

- Lucy and Olivia are so random. It’s a bit late and pointless to introduce new characters (even minor) in the very last season imo. But I don’t really mind them. Even quite liked them in the scene where Rory freaks out about not knowing what she’ll do after undergrads. Love that scene for Rory too of course. It's one of those scenes that remind me why I like and occasionally can relate to Rory.

- It’s been years since Rory/Marty hung out (as she pointed out herself) but he’s still hung up on her? Bleh. Ever since (at least) s3, they’ve been driving me crazy with everybody-loves-Rory-and-Lorelai-forever moments. Plus, Marty’s super jerky now, so I really don’t want him on my screen. They shouldn’t have brought his character back just for that. He was ok past seasons.

- This show is so old. Way back from the time I kept up with MTV and Hollywood movies, so I’m not actually when celebrities’ names pop up (if it’s Rory’s generation celebrities at least).

- You can tell how old it is by the political talk too of course. But which war were Yale students supposed to be protesting in s7? Was it about Bush wanting to send more troops in Iraq or something else?

- Yale Daily News staff has kinda grown on me. Why I have no idea. So have Paris and Doyle as an item for also unknown reasons.

- Lorelai needs a marriage rehab. CL in Paris were super cute though.

- 7.08 was good at reminding me why I like both CL and LL. CL moving in was cute as was LL in hospital. Sucks Luke had to find out about the marriage like that.

- I like RL most of the time too. However, I’m pulling for a single-and-happy Rory at the end. Nothing against her relationships with Dean, Jess or Logan. But I don’t hardcore ship any of them anymore. (RJ used to be an otp and I always liked RL too.) And it’s so rare for a tv to let a female character end up not hetero married with children. I’d even be happy if they let her just at least not do marriage, pregnancy (in s5 she mentioned being disgusted by it, so they could bring that back) and childrearing. (I know ASP, Lauren and Alexis have been hinting at a single Rory ending in interviews, but I’ll believe it when I see it. X-files writers and cast used to say they wouldn’t put Mulder and Scully together and look how that went.)

- I like Logan, generally speaking. But not in 7.08. RL conflict here reminded me of RD conflict back in s1. I don’t care if super mild criticism of patriarchy or capitalism upsets Dean’s or Logan’s feelings. And I definitely don’t care to see Rory apologize for her stances, which are underwhelmingly moderate to begin with.

- I’ve liked Anna so far and I can see where she is coming from with moving but I don’t like that she’s completely disregarding April’s and Luke’s feelings.

- Luke/April relationship continues to be adorable. And aww @ “I mean at one point, I got so panicked, I was thinking maybe I'd give her my appendix, you know if they could do some kind of a transplant or something. But I was a little out of my mind.”

- Loved Emily and Richard’s reaction to LC eloping and Lorelai telling them about it on the answering machine because it was so... Emily and Richard.

- Some of my fav dialogues (including the ones from eps 1-5 because I was lazy to bring them over last time)

pinkpaisley

IMO he never apologized for that.

I never cared about them at all. Like Rory needed some new friends? And the whole Marty sl was stupid.

Those quotes are so funny!

Lindsay

Great quotes!

I never really cared about Lucy and Olivia either.

I'm currently watching 7x18. So I'll definitely be done before the revival. Yay! That was my goal.

just stand still

Introducing Lucy/Olivia so late into the show made absolutely no sense. As did the Marty storyline that followed.

pinkpaisley

Awesome!

FrellingTralk

You're right, the ultimation isn't really brought up again I don't think after early season 7, Luke is apologising to Lorelai in the hay bale maze for not handing the April situation better and pushing her away


And I liked that actress in other shows, but I found Lucy soo annoying in season 7, she always seemed so ditzy I was surprised when they started hanging out with Paris as well, it seemed like they were the sort of girls who would have driven Paris crazy

just stand still

Yup. Luke never really apologized until then and that was only because Lorelai finally apologized for the awful thing she did first.

ds44

The ultimatum always annoyed me just as Luke pushing Lorelai away did. But, my issue was her going to Chris. To me that was slap in the face to Luke and everything they shared.

just stand still

I really wish we could've found out her thought process for going to Chris' that night.

ds44

It wasn't the night of that bothered me, but her dating and then marrying him. It's like wtf? It just made her look like someone afraid of being alone.

just stand still

Ultimately she was afraid of being alone. Things were ruined forever with Luke (or so she thought) and this may have been her last chance at happiness and if she ruined things with Luke because of Christopher she may have tried just so it wouldn't have been for nothing.

I guess it depends if you think a one night stand would've been worse than the whole relationship/marriage.

pinkpaisley

What bugged me most is that ASP had a plan. She wanted everybody completely messed up by the end of s6. And the she never got to finish her story. I don't think she ever intended for Lorelai and Chris to get married, but I can see why in Lorelai's mind, sleeping with Chris would be the final blow.