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Old 11-26-2008, 12:23 AM
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Me too Mir. I watch Supernatural and I LOVE Sam Winchester, but Dreamer fics are all I read.
I have run into a couple of Liz&Sam fics too
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Old 11-26-2008, 06:42 PM
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Liz/Sam?
really?

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Old 11-27-2008, 05:10 AM
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Yeah. Never read them though. I think Sam is too... He is maybe too much like Max (at least what he was in the first season of Roswell: kind, sweet, and over all just so good person. I stick with Dean&Liz

Lulu, when you are into a crossovers, have you thought about reading mine?



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Old 11-27-2008, 08:36 AM
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wow I love the banner!
who wouldn't love a banner with 3 hot guys !

and I just read your story, left a comment over at livejournal
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Old 11-27-2008, 10:47 AM
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Thanks, Lulu I actually laughed the same thing: first time I managed to do art which everyone will love

Thanks for reading it and leaving a comment
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:30 PM
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I think Sam is too... He is maybe too much like Max (at least what he was in the first season of Roswell: kind, sweet, and over all just so good person.
I believe that's why I LOVE Sam too!

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Old 11-28-2008, 04:45 AM
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Thanks

Yeah, I guess Sam is love when you like that type
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Old 11-29-2008, 09:46 AM
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I know, I'm soft when it comes to guys. But...Max and Sam could hold their own when they needed to.
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Old 11-29-2008, 01:14 PM
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Second chapter is up!


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Author: Pempees
Characters: Dean Winchester, Liz Parker, Sam Winchester and other Roswell characters
Category: Roswell/Supernatural XO
Disclaimer: I do not own Supernatural or Roswell or any of their characters.
Rating: It goes to adult in some point
Pairing: At least Dean/Liz.. Kind of
Summary: Odd deaths lure Sam and Dean to Mooncroft, but they find a lot more than just a bunch of werewolves. Something that scares Dean a lot more, something he never saw coming. Suddenly Sam has to follow his brother to face ghosts from the past, and there is nothing that anyone could do - their destinys are already sealed. Set to season 3 on Supernatural.

Chapter 1
Chapter 2:
I just can't sit here anymore. Let's just kill the God damn werewolf and get the hell out of this town
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Old 12-03-2008, 05:07 AM
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honestly no offense but i really don't like UC ff where Liz is with every male character ever made. it's not even *Liz Parker* for me (i wouldn't have loved her). Not to mention that they always transform Max into the bad guy (in the second season of roswell he wasn't a bad guy more than how Liz was too. it was both their fault and they payed it. i never crucified them for their mistakes deleting everything they did before and after some examples happened into a certain moment of their life. not to mention that they're teenagers) in order to justify the new shipper and Liz. and i totally love Max and M&L (= canon)
and i don't even like Jensen something and supernatural

sorry but it's only Dreamer CC fanfictions for me.
sometimes even the AU ones aren't my fav it figures UC.. i'm such a canon worshiper.

BUT some alternative universe are amazing
this Dreamer fanfiction for example is my last addiction and DRUG
the way this author is writing the story using the snapshots thing is totally genius
i'm totally addicted, her M&L are so intense and funny at the same time


Snapshot (AU M/L MATURE) by Josephin


she won the awards for Best Portrayal of Liz, Best Portrayal of Max, Most dependable updater ( ehm ), Favorite first chapter, Best fanart cover, Best all around fanfiction, Best AU without aliens, Best Dreamer Fanfiction, Most talked about fanfiction, Story that had you bouncing in your seat, most memorable scene (the prologue) and runner up for Best Villain - Nancy Parker




eta: Pempees i wasn't talking about your fanfiction i don't like the whole genre in general.
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They're taking our home from us,they want to kill us and they might
But .. when I look in your eyes, I ... I don't feel angry or ... deprived
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Old 12-03-2008, 05:35 AM
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I understood Of course everyone can have their opinion. Once I was like that too, that I couldn't think Liz with anyone else than Max and I hated when she kissed with Sean. Later I realized that she is just a normal girl, and it doesn't change _her_ if she is not with Max. Like yu said they are teenagers. I agree with you that the whole mess in the second season wasn't just because of Max and he wasn't actually the bad guy, but for Liz he was. Liz wasn't really smart back then either, but I understand how she must have felt. Max was her all and suddenly he wasn't there. Of course she blamed him because of that, though she had made him do that.

"I-I trusted you, I gave you everything. I jumped off bridges for you, I broke laws for you, I risked getting shot for you, I trusted you! And you go off-- God, with Tess-- God, I saved myself for you!" There she tells Max that she blames him.

But I don't like Liz with everyone either, but truely I love crossovers. I feel like everyone is already been made in Roswell fiction world.

And I love Jensen and Supernatural

Edit. I don't know is there any sense in this post
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Old 12-03-2008, 06:22 AM
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Later I realized that she is just a normal girl, and it doesn't change _her_ if she is not with Max.
this is where we differ
she isn't just a normal girl like the others, she's special and unique. She's a woman who found her soulmate and true love, someone who completed her and gave her the chance to stop the "perfect and controled Liz Parker" show that wasn't her real character.
she fought for that love and in the end she won even if she payed a big price but she had no regrets.

Shiri played many roles not just Liz. i can see the other girls with other people, i find it believable, for all of them but Liz. because of how the characters are written. and with Liz it doesn't make sense for me.


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I agree with you that the whole mess in the second season wasn't just because of Max and he wasn't actually the bad guy, but for Liz he was.
and for Max she was too from The end of the world and then heart of mine, cry your name, too late too bad and maybe even in off the menù

I understand how he must have felt too. She was his all and suddenly she wasn't there anymore, she didn't love him anymore (for him)
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Old 12-03-2008, 07:12 AM
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she isn't just a normal girl like the others, she's special and unique. She's a woman who found her soulmate and true love, someone who completed her and gave her the chance to stop the "perfect and controled Liz Parker" show that wasn't her real character.
Well... She at least she were just a normal girl before she got those alien powers. Of course she's unique - we all are. But I'm not putting her on pedestal, and thinking her some kind of super girl. She was just teenager with a little different kind of problems than they usually have She found her soulmate - yeah, but what if the love dies? What if Liz gets tired of fighting? Like I said she is no super girl to me, and I don't believe she can do it forever. People get tired, and in some point she might too.

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and for Max she was too from The end of the world and then heart of mine, cry your name, too late too bad and maybe even in off the menù

I understand how he must have felt too. She was his all and suddenly she wasn't there anymore, she didn't love him anymore (for him)
Exactly That's why anyone can't put the whole mess only to Max's or Liz's shoulders

Edit. But the fact that Liz is in so many crossover fics and so used character, just proves how amazing she is.
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:53 AM
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i'm sorry if it's a bit OT

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She found her soulmate - yeah, but what if the love dies? What if Liz gets tired of fighting? Like I said she is no super girl to me, and I don't believe she can do it forever. People get tired, and in some point she might too.
this is not what the show told and neither the original books
the one you're taking about is a Liz that doesn't exist because Liz proved that she couldn't get tired (even when she was she couldn't stop and in the end she had no regrets). it's the whole point of the story. change it and it isn't the same story anymore, it's another Liz. not the one Melinda and Katims created. i find it inevitable. it's not about being super girl. it's about the foundation of her character and the original story. for Katims and Melinda the character that *they* made is in love and will always love Max (and viceversa) otherwise they would have written the story into another way, they would have written Liz into another way.

after all the things she lived the future can't bring for her (them) things worse than all the other things she already survived. everything will be a joke compared to what she already faced and won against.
and no, her love can't die for me (this is what the show told. i don't remember a different ending). otherwise it means that i didn't understand the core point of roswell and their relationship and why it was so different compared to other shows/stories (a relationship that obviously isn't "realistic" for many even if i personally know some people who loved the same person for their whole life. maybe because the big example i got are my parents and it's not that their life was always nice and easy, the contrary.)
I'm a dreamer because their relationship is that different and they proved it to me.

i understand your point because you obviously love UC and crossover Liz
but i don't have the same ability especially with stories that had its beginning and definitive closure.

when it's about alternative universe i find crossovers more tolerable and believable but with regular fanfictions no no

see i don't have a problem with UC shippers in general
i appreciate people that can love the canon couples and at the same time they like the originality of uc couples too but they never confuse it with canon and they know that in the canon it isn't possible to get certain couples.
for example i've read the opinion of a Max/Maria fan who admits that yes she loves the couple into fanfictions but she also knows that in the original story it was pretty impossible.


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Edit. But the fact that Liz is in so many crossover fics and so used character, just proves how amazing she is.
i don't know if i can honestly reply to this because my opinion could hurt someone.
i'm not talking about you but i honestly don't think that *every* uc_liz shipper is really a *Liz* fan.
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:22 AM
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We have so different opinions in here that I don't see point arguing But I got to give it to you that you spoke with a true dreamer's mouth. I'm dreamer, but not as strong as I used to be.
Still, I don't make difference between "crossover" Liz and "real" Liz, so I won't say that I love "crossover" Liz. I love just Liz

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i don't know if i can honestly reply to this because my opinion could hurt someone.
i'm not talking about you but i honestly don't think that *every* uc_liz shipper is really a *Liz* fan.
I honestly don't understand why you don't agree with me on this one. People want to use Liz in their fics mean that they like Liz. Period.
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