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Old 01-30-2008, 11:15 PM
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The Roomies #53: Who needs socks when they can keep each other warm?

Welcome to ROOMIEVILLE... An Appreciation Thread for Ray/Neela

Hop aboard the Insanity Express to Loserville, a sister thread for Morris and Jane.


Made by Just Tracy


Made by Emony2

This thread is devoted to the pairing of Neela Rasgotra and Ray Barnett. Neela is a smart, by-the-book girl, and Ray is a doctor, in a rock-band boy's body. Both met in season 11 and the hints and sparks have beenflying since. From the first casual flirt, to the snowballs thrown, to the invitation to become roommates, these two are meant to be. And this is just the beginning of their story..

Need more reasons? Check out the Ray/Neela Ship_Manifesto essay over at Livejournal: How Come No One Told Me You Were Such A Badass?, by Fi (fc2001)




*Obsession City- Capital of Roomieville*

1) Because they balance each other out
2) Because he called her Dr. Jumbomart
3) Because he offered her a place to stay
4) Because he wanted her to live with him.... and you know it!
5) Because it's going to be interesting to see the 'living arrangments'
6) Because even though they might kill each other, it's gonna be fun to watch!
7) Because he said "I love you" to her
8) Because she replied saying "you owe me 80 bucks"... which is code for "I love you too!"
9) Because they're roomies
10) Because Neela helped Ray after he got punched
11) Because Neela was about to punch someone for him
12) Because they went shopping together
13) Because she took him to Duluth with her
14) Because he grabbed her when they saw the body
15) Because The Bump was NOT an accident!
16) Because even Gallant can't get between them!
17) Because she's a badass too!
18) Because she is getting used to finding random rockers passed out in THEIR livingroom!
19) Because him 'telling' her to get it on with his rocker friend is just another link in the long line of the state that is DENIAL..which we all know just ain't a river in Egypt my friend.. lol (props to theirishgirl for that)
20) Because before she played the viola, she wanted to play rock music.... just like Ray.
21) Because he's cleaning the bathroom with actual cleaning products for her...
22) And she's popping a finger back into place for him
23) Because its Beauty and the Badass...(props to DaveAbbyLuver for thinking of that)
24) Because Neela's a good girl and liking a bad boy comes naturally
25) Because she totally checked him out when they first met!
26) Because Pratt thinks there's hope for them yet!
27) Because she slapped Morris for him!
28) Because he gave her credit for the patient
29) Because she owes him
30) Because he'll take her next prolapsed rectum.
31) Because she told him he looked tired and he should go home.
32) Because they're totally not sticking to opposite shifts.
33) Because he helped her with the femoral cutdown.
34) Because his friends love her, and even though she pretends not to, she likes them too.
35) Because she yelled at him and he did the right thing.
36) Because that handshake was never just a handshake
37) Because he can't keep his eyes off of her
38) Because they've had too many electric moments for things to stay purely platonic.
39) Because you know what they say about first impressions!
40) Because he smiles the most when he's around her
41) Because Jumbomart is "their" place
42) Because they always lean towards each other
43) Because even fake spoilers want them together
44) Because our minds are dirtier than their apartment!
45) Because we know that they (Shane & Parminder) see it too.....too many random looks and leanings to prove otherwise
46) Because it must be fate!
47) Because it's written in the stars!
48) Because they go together like strawberries and cream!
49) Because we need more than just a handshake!
50) Because strawberries will never be the same again!
51) Because we need The Roomies to stop irishgirl from starting the Ray/Archie thread (props to Neel for this one)
52) Because he warned her about the antifreeze thingamajigger (props to Neel)
53) Because she accidentally bumped into him...... again! (props to Neel)
54) Because he gives her the first choice of what intern she wants. (props to Dingbat)
55) Because we know he purposely picked the number closest to Neela's (props to Dingbat)
56) Because now she knows what she's missing! (props to IrishGirl)
57) Because he wouldn't let her concentrate on writing something to Gallant! (props to tigger21)
58) Because she was dissappointed the beer was not for her. (props to Neel)
59) Because the entire hospital thought Ray had slept with Neela.
60) Because she is the best friend he has ever had
61) Because he bought her pizza with extra anchovies
62) Because he wants her to remember the good times
63) Because we all know how much he is going to miss her
64) Because even tho she didnt say it, we know she is really gonna miss him too
65) Because he wishes he didnt feel the way he did, he doesnt want to make things difficult for her
66) Because it feels like an end of an era but we know this is just the beginning!
67) Because he cooked for her!
68) Because she just wants to hang out at home with her Roomie
69) Because this time, the other beer was for her
70) Because he taped World Poker Tour for her
71) Because she put her job on the line for him
72) Because she asked him out for a drink or five
73) Because only he had the guts to tell her that her cookies were the worst cookies made in the history of baking!
74) Because he wouldn't have let her go into a burning building and he sure as hell wouldn't have left her there!
75) Because he was too scared to watch "The Omen" alone.
76) Because when she talks, he listens!
77) Because she likes sleeping in his shirt
78) Because he'd do anything for his Roomie!
79) Because he can't keep his eyes off her
80) Because he knew her locker combo and exactly what she needed
81) Because she promised to watch movies with him
82) Because they both know why
83) Because he can call her whatever he likes
84) Because the shirt said what Neela couldn't
85) Because she ate all his Lucky Charms and finished all the milk and he didn't care.
86) Because the way they look at each other says it all
87) Because they're falling fast and hard
88) Because she drank all his tequila!
89) Because he saved her from the trolley
90) Because they get along so well
91) Because he doesn't want to be Hank's bitch!
92) Because they are mirroring each other's body language
93) Because she feels his pain
94) Because they know each other
95) Because it would've hurt more if she'd stayed
96) Because she ate all his cereal at 4 in the morning and he didn’t mind
97) Because we know Ray secretly loves Neela's cookies
98) Because nothing says love like a saliva covered swab
99) Because he needs her healing touch
100) Because she went to his gig.
101) Because he asked her to come to his gig.
102) Because he was worried about her
103) Because he got mad at Pratt for letting her go into a burning building.
104) Because if he hadn't been in such a hurry to get away, she would've kept her hand on his longer.
105) Because it's not just him, they both are a mess.
106) Because she threw Zo-Ho's make-up CD mix in the trash.
107) Because she apologised for making fun of him.
108) Because she got rid of Zo-Ho for him.
109) Because he's been a bad influence.
110) Because she watched every horror movie with him in the last week.
111) Because she'll ditch if he will.
112) Because he likes the way she thinks.
113) Because he was willing to work on anything to make sure they were okay.
114) Because they had a moment.
115) Because marrying Gallant was the wankiest idea she ever heard
116) Because they ALWAYS WALK IN SYNC WITH EACH OTHER!! I mean come on - how much more perfect can they be together?
117) Because, after saving her from the trolley, he held on to her sleeve a little bit longer than he had to... he just couldn't let her go!
118) Because the Roomies C2 at fanfiction.net has more fics and subscribers than any other, even the canon couples.
119) Because now we're canon!
120) Just ....... because!
121) Because it's why she gets up in the morning
122) Because saying goodbye shouldn't be this hard!
123) Because he knows she doesn't like devil movies
124) Because she may have regretted moving in with him, but we didn't.
125) Because even when there is no roomieness in the episode we can make it roomie anyway.
126) Because she knew he didn't really mean to quit.
127) Because he tried to find her, first chance he had.
128) Because he wanted to make sure she went home.
129) Because he found her
130) Because he was really sorry
131) Because he wanted her to go home and take care of herself
132) Because she didnt want him to see her break, so she pushed him away.
133) Because only he could make her break.
134) Because with Neela there is this unbelievable sexual tension - Shane agrees.
135) Because Shane thinks Neela's changed Ray in the past 2 years period...just made him much more comfortable in his own skin.
136) Because they have changed each other
137) Because there was no coffee on her collar
138) Because their chemistry says it all
139) Because life begins at Roomieville. (props to Emony2)
140) Because he is the someone she needs (props to dancer150)
141) Because he was broken hearted (dancer150)
142) Because HE was the one she cried to.(dancer150)
143) Because this will be their season. (dancer150)
144) Because now they have their chance (dancer150)
145) Because patience is everything in "Obsessed Fans of ER's couples" (dancer150)
146) Because they have ground, now they just have to make it stable (dancer150)
147) We waited all summer for Roomies in the premiere and all we got was this thread (Ash)
148) Because he doesn't like idiot-boy. (Gates)
149) Because he was jealous
150) Because Ray's a R3 not an intern.
151) Because two is company, three is crowd.
152) Because the idiot-one doesn't stand a chance. (props to emony2 )
153) Because even the ZoeClone didn't stop him from pining for our girl
154) Because he only has eyes for her
155) Because subtext is everything.
156) Because he arrived at her door with Krispy Kremes and fixed her cable right before his 12 hour shift
157) Because he hasn't found the time to call Katey
158) Because Gates is lust and Ray is love
159) Because we know that it's going to explode sooner or later
160) Because UST between Ray and Neela is HOT/Gutter-fanfic inducing.
161) Because we may be down but we'll never be out.
162) Because the real man of her dreams was at her door.
163) Because when she needed help with her cable she asked him.
164) Because they can't fight the feeling anymore
165) Because his face isnt like a brillo pad. )
166) Because that could've been the sexiest snowball fight ever!
167) Because it takes a stiff drink to get into bed with Gates
168) Because they're miserable in other relationships. Period.
169) Because she didnt like Kateys comment about Ray
170) Because he doesnt mind keeping her mail
171) Because the fire's been lit, now watch it burn
172) Because they're friends, *right* ?
173) Because Ray was honest with the kids when Gates wasn't
174) Because he feels that if Gates cant keep his promises, he should cut her loose
175) Because he skipped out on his date to help Neela's patient
176) Because Katey needed to check with Neela, if it was 'ok' she had plans with Ray
177) Because Neela looked annoyed and we know it wasnt because she needed to use the ladies room!
178) Because a lot of people desperately want those two to be together!
179) Because their chemistry is even better when they fight.
180) Because even Pratt wants the Roomies together.
181) Because she looked back at him.
182) Because they have a love that can last a lifetime (dancer150)
183) Because the kiss is Shane's favorite scene too!
184) Because not even a heart attack could keep us away. (dshortklutz)
185) Because we know he wasn't *really* asking her for the bottle of honey. (GalaxyDuster)
186) Because they can't keep pretending. (GalaxyDuster)
187) Because they won't have to wait long. (GalaxyDuster)
188) Because he was quick to defend her! (GuayanaBelle)
189) Because she wants to figure it out. (GuayanaBelle)
190) Because they enjoy spending time together both on and off screen (gretalschnitzel)
191) Because they picked out ringtones together (angelfirestar*)
192) Because Parminder thinks Shane kisses better than Stamos (angelfirestar*)
193) Because she already answers to 'honey' (bigred08 - 13.18 - "Photographs and Memories")
194) Because a week is a long time for people who are in love with their Punjabi ex-room mates (star-time)
195) Because Neela and Ray have *history* and her and Tony don't.
196) Because there are two things Ray wont let Tony mess with and one of them is Neela.
197) Because Gates doesnt know how to take care of her.
198) Because all of Neela's stolen glances tonight were for Ray and Ray alone.
199) Because according to Ray she is the best roomie ever
200) Because he wrote a song for her.
201) Because Ray has always been there for her
202) Because he really *tried* to help her grieve
203) Because Neela has finally come to realize what Ray means to her and we hope its not too late!
204) Because she knows that he will get through this
205) Because his mom's heard a lot about her (theirishgirl)
206) Because she wanted to talk..and she was hoping (theirishgirl)
207) Because Shane wants to "Save Reela" too.
208) Because we want them to rock 'n roll together.
209) Because they would make beautiful music together.
210) Because the Roomies rock!
211) Because nothing is more 'real or unreal' than Reela.
212) Because the Roomie's rock each other's world.
213) Because Neela's blue without her little 'Ray of light'!
214) Because WE know Ray doesn't regret it
215) Because he told her it's not her fault

*Roomieville Residents*
1) XtremeChiq
2) Erin
3) SpySyd
4) Jelenbean
5) tru-calling4eva
6) ScorpioGrl
7) xx Jennifer xx
8) *just_her*
9) guekix
10) Krissy_Babi
11) DaveAbbyLuver
12) adiklina88
13) born2standout
14) NeelaRay4ever
15) elavndrc
16) Just Tracy
17) Sexyjames!!
18) Vera
19) rayandneelaslovechild
20) lindab123
21) lovebird
22) LarsHoneytoast
23) Serene_Ray
24) tigger21
25) theirishgirl
26) neel luvs tony
27) Deathofacat
28) lolitaro
29) DYani
30) gsrfan
31) endless03
32) Keiko Harumiya
33) funkycool
34) Emony2
35) Uranaikko
36) jamiedianne
37) Nab
38) sue_k
39) SethxMarissa
40) SassMou
41) fc2001
42) Justinsgirl
43) josh'sgirl7
44) CherryPie
45) SweetLisaLisa
46) Gosling Fan
47) TuggyToots
48) Love_Shane_West
49) gn2106
50) b_ritt
51) LeoDiabla
52) Dingbat
53) LivingInTheOCsucks
54) Livvie_Emma_07
55) chianna
56) Miss Congeniality
57) GracieAllen
58) fleurdelune
59) amberlm2403
60) ray_rocks
61) neelant
62) tidbit2008
63) some1
64) Hello_Sunshine
65) emma21
66) LB21
67) Ulysses1
68) drumgirl
69) itsinthestars
70) katjad
71) sharstarz07
72) Leila
73) wildcherry
74) dealmein
75) DreamyVale
76) Laley Luv
77) quarterlifecrisis79
78) Loves ER and Ray
79) our_memories
80) ronniekins77
81) Crazy4Ray
82) Dreaming Liz
83) Luceuk
84) Star21
85) Calgaryfan2006
86) vaughany
87) PinkPastry
88) Miela
89) bluewaves
90) H007
91) Liz01
92) laurie_b
93) zassou
94) HalesNLuke
95) Gina Potter
96) slicknickshady
97) craziprodigy
98) MissCongeniality2003
99) Woeisme
100) aliasunused
101) C, l'autrevoisinedepalier
102) ¨¨~ J Erlotiel L ~¨¨
103) Signature Girl
104) lilnangel
105) Geo Girl
106) manu_r/hr
107) BlindFaith
108) Alexxandra
109) elisgalpal
110) Mooncat
111) Louisiana
112) sweety86
113) Meg85
114) Michelle Dessler
115) aabf
116) valiy5
117) criss128
118) L.C Barnett
119) dancer150
120) Hermoine_Granger
121) dshortklutz
122) How-very-girl629
123) RayRox
124) Frollis
125) Luna8
126) Brooke_Lyn_Night
127) SarahLiz_21
126) 4biddenluv
127) PatienceIsEverything
128) Caliina
129) AmericanDirrty
130) scarletumbrella
131) lyricalpeach
132) MBfan19
133) nonobsessed
134) EdsBlueEyes
135) sassenach888
136) jasonsrose5
137) noenoelia
138) youpin
139) akaz
140) *~Sophia~*
141) neela1
142) savannha
143) Briar_Rose
144) rozzy
145) Leona1986
146) starry_night
147) MelanieMc
148) ~Catrina~
149) alhana_77
150) Mrs.L.
151) flavy
152) R3ERdoc
153) irishgirl2!
154) laley4eva
155) gretalschnitzel
156) butterflyswest
157) GuyanaBelle
158) GalaxyDuster
159) angelfirestar*
160) LoVe-Story
161) blackbettie
162) :jay:
163) star-time
164) IviilBrown
165) SassySarah
166) jemx2
167) pinkprincess
168) bigred08
169) UnaVitaSegreta
170) Rossignol
171) neela+ray
172) maya203
173) scarl3tt
174) neela_ND_ray_4ER
175) y0betty
176) Insanitic
177) Dreamer~Candy4eva
178) gingertwist
179) Vero_Roomies
180) chandelier2
181) sunsearch
182) Sandalwood
183) Angel06
184) nzhome
185) Tutorgirl23
186) Edith78
187) Ashlali
188) G-Unit
189) buzzybee66
190) ER/UGLY BETTY FAN
191) Cotton Candy
192) ThePrettySophia
193) bbroccs
194) BrathanSupporter

if you want to be added just pm the thread starter or post it here!

*Roomie- licious Links*
Ray/Neela Shipper Site (currently not working)
Ray/Neela: Doctors in the House -A LiveJournal Community for Ray/Neela
Parminder Nagra Online
The ER Lounge - Great site for episode guides, spoilers, and ER updates
The Roomies C2 -A community for Ray/Neela fanfictions at Fanfiction.net
Shane West Paradise -A great site for everything Shane West
Ray & Neela - A Roomie site started by Sue_K
ShaneWestFan.Net - Fabulous site maintained by Amber.
Roomieville Online - Maintained by Dyani

*Roomieville's Art Museum*

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-Fanart of the Moment-

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Made by Hello_Sunshine

*What's playing at the local theater*
Lift Me Up- Made by sue_k
I'll Be- Made by some1
My Blue Heaven- Made by DYani
She Like The Wind- Made by Frollis (includes season 13 clips)

1302 = spysyd
1303 - only Ray clip -ray_rocks
1303-Roomie scene - spysyd
1304 - spysyd

By - ray_rocks
1305(a)
1305(b)

By Spysyd
1306 -1
1306 -2

By rayrocks
1306 -a
1306 -b

1307 clip 1 megaupload link
1307 clip 2 megaupload link
1307 clip 3 megaupload link

1313 Yousendit link

13.17 - Youtube link

1321 Clips by Caro
YouTubeLink-1321(1)
YouTubeLink-1321(2)


*Scenes to Remember*


props to SpySyd and Ash for the caps!

*Roomieville Wedding Chapel*


*Roomieville Concert Hall (Soundtrack)*

"True" - Ryan Cabrera
"One Thing" - Finger Eleven
"This Side of Me" - Darren Hayes (Savage Garden)
"Yesterday's Gone" - Ryan Cabrera
"Why Don't You and I" - Santana featuring Chad Kroeger of Nickelback
"Lost Without You" - Delta Goodrem
"You and Me" - Lifehouse
"Collide' - Howie Day
"Iris" - Goo Goo Dolls
"Ever The Same" - Rob Thomas
"Hopelessly Addicted/Don't Say You Love Me" - The Corrs
"The Reason" - Hoobastank
"Unintended" - Muse
"Safest Place To Hide" - Backstreet Boys
"Amazed" - Lonestar
"I Want To Love You" - Shelley Fairchild
"For You" - The Calling
"Falls On Me" - Fuel
"Night & Day" - Cole Porter
"Heroine" - Something Corporate
"If You're Gone" - Matchbox Twenty
"Ride" - Cary Brothers
"For You I Will (Confidence)" - Teddy Geiger
"The Other Side of the World" - KT Tunstall
"Why Are We Still Friends" - 98 Degrees
"All We Are"- One Republic
"Underneath It All" - No Doubt
"So What Does It All Mean" - Jonny Was
"Nothing I've Ever Known" - Bryan Adams
"Everything" - Lifehouse
"Take Me Away" - Lifehouse
"If Only"- Hanson
"Lift Me Up" - Darren Hayes & Olivia Newton John
"Nothing To Lose" - MLTR
"I'll Be There" - Green Day
"Nothing Else Matters" - Metallica
"Stranded" - Plumb
"Leave My Heart Out Of This" - Bryan White
"If I'm Not The One" - N'SYNC
"Rendevous" - Craig David
"I Will Be Right Here Waiting For You" - Richard Marx
"Best In Me" - Blue
"Bring Me To Life" - Evanescence
"Call The Doctor" - The Moffats
"All You Wanted" - Michelle Branch
"Gifted From Angels" - Sugar Rush
"Too Lost In You" - Sugarbabes
"Follow Through" - Gavin DeGraw
"If You're Not The One" - Daniel Bedingfield
"He Don't Love You Like I Love You" - Daniel Bedingfield
"Surrender" - Laura Pausini
"Every Step"- Ben Jelen
"I See You, You See Me" - Magic Numbers
"All or Nothing" - O-Town
"I'm The One" - Descendents
"Let Love In" - Goo Goo Dolls
"When I'm Gone" - 3 Doors Down
"Here With You" - 3 Doors Down
"Beautiful Love" The Afters
"The Weakness in Me" - Keisha White
"Your Embrace" - Shakira
"Open Your Eyes" - Snow Patrol
"Right Here" - Staind
"Gallery" - Mario Vazquez
"Can't Fight This Feeling" - REO Speedwagon
"To Make You Feel My Love" - Garth Brooks
"With You" - Levi Kreis
"Understand" - Christina Aguilera
"Run" - Snow Patrol
"Fix You" - Coldplay
"It is You (I Have Loved)" - Dana Glover
"Wait for Love" - Matt White
"What if I Said" - Anita Cochran and Stevie Wariner
"You" - Switchfoot
"Get Down Tonight" - KC and the Sunshine Band (13.18 - "Photographs and Memories")
"Woman" - Wolfmother (13.18 - "Photographs and Memories")
"Calling Baton Rouge" - Garth Brooks
"Follow Me" - Uncle Kracker
"Accidentally in Love" - Counting Crows
"On My Shoulder" - Westlife
"In This Life" - Chantal Kreviazuk
"Don't Speak" - No Doubt
"Can't Stop" - Ozomatli
"Have You Ever Needed Someone So Bad" - Def Leppard
"You're My Best Friend" - Queen
"20 Good Reasons" - Thirsty Merc
"Cover On My Heart" - Guy Sebastian
"Patience" - Take That
"Unchained Melody" - Righteous Brothers
"Everywhere" - Michelle Branch
"Wonderwall" - Oasis
"Love's A Hard Game To Play" - Stevie Nicks
"Dreams In My Head" - Anika Moa
"Greatest Story Ever Told" - Oliver James


*What's on the menu at the Roomieville Restaurant*

Special K Redberries
Pepperoni pizza
Strawberries and Cream
Champagne
Tequila
Fortune Cookies
Stir Fry
Fresh water chestnuts
Lucky Charms
Beer
Neela's Biohazard Cookies
Pizza with extra anchovies
Krispy Kremes
Invisible coffee
Honey

*Roomieville for Dummies*
RV- Roomieville
The Gutter- Roomieville's local bar
Dr. Jumbomart- Neela
Doc Rock - Ray
Obsession City- Roomieville's Capital
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too swift for those who fear,
too long for those who grieve,
too short for those who rejoice,
but for those who love, time is eternity."

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Favorite Roomie Quotes

"How come no one ever told me you were such a badass?"

"Welcome, Roomie."

"I wish I didn't - feel the way I feel. But you...you're the best friend I've ever had."

"You have this ethical alarm system hot-wired into your brain that makes you a self-righteous pain in the ass. It's also one of the best things about you."

"Miami?"

"Because you'll owe me."

"I think I should move out."
"Why?"
"We both know why."

"I have been looking for that for like, a month."
"I rather like sleeping in it."

"Are you accusing me of cherry-picking charts Neela? That hurts."

"Anything for my Roomie."

"So I feel like history to you?"

"Hey Dr. Jumbomart, how ya feelin'?"

"Leaving so soon?"
"Guess not."

"I'll ditch if you do."

"All I want to do is hang out at home with my roommate."

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I love the title you chose for the thread. I just hope we get some news soon. I keep hearing that the strike will be over soon but I'm not going to believe it until it actually happens.
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:48 AM
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I'd rather have what we got than a lame excuse like 'He's off visiting the band' for an entire season when it was made clear in "If Not Now" that he'd been focused on the doctor thing and that's why they kicked him out. Or a stupid coma for a year...What we got gives us the opportunity for a great dramatic story...
Why is a coma so "stupid"? It's entirely within the realm of possibility. And judging from the posts on this board and others, plus the fanfics on the subject, I'm sure tons of fans would have taken something like that over the trauma of seeing their favorite character literally cut off at the knees. The greater point I was making was about ER's constant need for shock value.

In "I Don't" Ray said that he had started recording again, so we know he has not abandoned his musical aspirations. As for the band, friends can make amends. It's happened before.

In fact, rather than what we got, it's entirely plausible for Ray to have left County and Chicago of his own accord -- take time off, clear his head, not wanting to deal with Neela and Gates. Yes, I know he's in the middle of his residency, but sometimes people make rash decisions in the heat of the moment. And I did note that the amputation storyline could be heart-wrenching and uplifting. But if Shane does not return, then our last memory is of a bitter, broken Ray with two bandaged stumps being wheeled out, helpless and dependent upon a woman (his mother) with whom he seems to have a complicated relationship.
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I sooo love the opening
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Thanks for the new thread, Ash!

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In fact, rather than what we got, it's entirely plausible for Ray to have left County and Chicago of his own accord -- take time off, clear his head, not wanting to deal with Neela and Gates. Yes, I know he's in the middle of his residency, but sometimes people make rash decisions in the heat of the moment. And I did note that the amputation storyline could be heart-wrenching and uplifting. But if Shane does not return, then our last memory is of a bitter, broken Ray with two bandaged stumps being wheeled out, helpless and dependent upon a woman (his mother) with whom he seems to have a complicated relationship.
I agree.

GalaxyDuster & Ash: I can see your point, but I'd rather have seen something less dramatic than legs being amputated..
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To Ash and Galaxy: You two make very compelling arguments as to why this amputation storyline can be a great one for the roomie relationship. It can really heighten the drama and intensity between these two characters that we've never seen before. It may also give Neela the opportunity to really express how she feels and really fight for what she wants for a change instead of keeping her feelings on the inside. So from that standpoint, the amputation arc seems to be appealing.

However, I think Sandal's point of view is coming from a place of general frustration that all roomie fans feel. So I can also relate to her argument as well. As a loyal roomie fan and a major shipper of this couple, I wish that TPTB had gone a less tragic route. Perhaps, another storyline could have worked and been equally effective. I think that the underlying problem is that TPTB never really gave Ray anything to do(especially in season 13) other than pine over Neela. Then the next thing you know, they just drop this bomb on us that Ray's legs has been amputated. It just seemed kinda cheap to me and just another typical "shock value" moment ala TPTB.

So, I guess what I'm saying is, I agree with all three of you.

P.S.- Love the new thread title(Boy we sure go through these threads fast don't we?)
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Yay! New thread!!!


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But if Shane does not return, then our last memory is of a bitter, broken Ray with two bandaged stumps being wheeled out, helpless and dependent upon a woman (his mother) with whom he seems to have a complicated relationship.


broke my heart...

He has to come back!
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New thread! Thanks. Great title by the way.
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Thanks for the new thread and please we need to be optimistic about Ray's return because I'm sure Shane is for a closure on Ray and Neela's issues. We need our proper ending for our Roomie and that's it.
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He did say he'd started recording again, but he didn't choose music over medicine. To have him do so would have gone back on all the progress and growth he'd made as a character. The band kicking him out was given as an example that he'd already been more serious about the medicine. His focus on the doctor thing was why they kicked him out. And he was genuinely upset that Weaver took it as him 'quitting' in "If Not Now", even before the band kicked him out and he had nothing to fall back on.

And the coma plot may be within the realm of possibility, but it has been done to death on every major soap opera. ER has enough soapy elements without adding prolonged coma plots to the mix. He could not be kept at County more than a few weeks before he'd be shipped off to a facility of some sort until he woke up. And if he didn't return, we'd be left to wonder whether he ever woke up or his mother just decided to pull the plug after 20 years. At least with what we got, we know that he's planning to be fitted with prosthetics, so presumably it will happen, and he will be able to live a pretty full life, including having a relationship with Neela if that's what the two of them decide. The last we see of him if he doesn't return is the bitter man that left in THO. But the last we hear of him if he doesn't return is that he doesn't blame Neela for what happened, which paves the way for them to work things out and have the kind of ending we want for them. I wasn't thrilled with the way they decided to do it when I found out what happened to Ray (and I knew well before the spoilers hit the net) - I'm still not thrilled with it - but I have grown to like the fact that doing it this way really drives home the truth of the relationship. Ray's missing part of his legs, and Neela has her own physical scars, but none of that matters to the other. She still finds him desirable and vice versa, and they're not any less of a man or a woman to each other; it's more than the physical. It always has been. I think that they've stayed the truest to the ship with that notion.

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Good points ash about the offscreen contact. I'll try to bear that in mind as a watch a repeat of the season 13 final tomorrow night. Boo hoo. It's to whet the appetite for the s14. What cracked me up from a reela fan's point of view was the comment in the tv guide. " Luka postpones his honeymoon " Like that is the most salient thing that happnes in the episode!! Did they even watch it?! Am I roomie obsessed?
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True, a coma is soapy but it would have kept Ray intact. Anyway, it was just an off-the-cuff example of other ways to explain his absence. The ER writers could have come up with another edgier, shock-inducing alternative if they wanted to. A temporary paralysis of some sort would have kept him from working at County (until his miraculous recovery ) but we'd still know that he was talking to Neela, didn't blame her, etc.

It's not so much about the storyline aspect as it is this feeling that stirs up inside me from time to time that TPTB cut off his legs in SPITE. Sounds irrational, I know, but can't help it.

I've always agreed that the amputation storyline holds great potential for our Roomies and for Shane and Mindi as actors -- but it's only compelling if they actually bring him back and complete it. If they don't and never really intended to, then that whole THO scenario was just mean (shock for shock's sake).

Wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment about scars and it being about more than just the physical for them.

Speaking of soapy, what if Ray had woken up from the accident with amnesia?! If he was still around this season, that would have been both tragic and funny! He doesn't remember Neela, doesn't remember all the complicated history. So then Neela offers to stay at his place to help him as he gets re-oriented. In the process, he falls for her (all over again) but since there's no baggage holding him back, we see an aggressive, get-the-girl kinda Ray! Oh, I'd totally eat that up! (Or flip it: we see Neela struggling with her growing feelings for Ray, who is totally oblivious to her. So Neela has to do the pursuing for a while...)
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Shane said in the TV Guide interview that they wanted drama, but didn't want to kill off Ray. Which tells me that they wanted to keep the option of bringing him back open. And really, if they didn't plan to, I don't think we would've gotten the mentions of him that we have. The strike has thrown a monkey wrench into things, unfortunately, so who knows what will happen.

And amnesia? No thank you. If I wanted soapy, I'd watch Grey's - and I don't. Most of the complaints I've seen from ER fans have been that the show has turned into General Hospital (a US soap opera), and that ER is trying to be Grey's Anatomy and that's not what fans of the show want; it's why they're turning it off. I don't think it should be only focused on patients, but I think we need good solid dramatic writing, not melodramatic soapy stuff.

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I completely agree with Ash - ER has slowly morphed itself into a more rubbish version of Grey's anatomy - that show works with that style because of the whole focus and characters they have - and loathe it or like it, it is well written most of the time - ALL the characters get enough air time, unlike ER...

That said, ER, when the writers get it right, rises well above Grey's in terms of good quality medical drama - now all they need to do is get Shane back!
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