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Old 01-22-2005, 01:01 AM
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Luka/Abby #127 - I Can't Promise I Will Heal You, But If You Want To I Will Try

"The inspired notion of hooking up Abby Lockhart, the full-time nurse, on-again-off-again med student, with Luka Kovac, the Croatian physician, on "E.R." created perhaps the most fascinating relationship on prime-time TV." - The New York Times

"It was a seasonlong masochist's glut of an affair, and in the hands of the remarkable Maura Tierney and Goran Visnjic it was - and continues to be, in the stormy aftermath of Abby and Luka's breakup this season - singularly compelling." - The New York Times

"And we know that, as the new Doug and Carol, [Abby] and Kovac are meant to be together." - Guardian Unlimited









Luby = Luka and Abby
Luby = In Polish, "Beloved"
Luby = In Russian, "Love"


October 26 has been declared International Luby Day, in honor of the first airing of Mars Attacks on October 26, 2001.

Welcome to the Luby thread. This thread is dedicated to our favorite couple: Luka and Abby, and to the wonderful actors who portray them: Goran Visnjic and Maura Tierney. As the rules of the board ask, no bashing here. If you don't like Luka and Abby, hit the road, Jack. If you do, welcome aboard and don't be shy! We don't bite... hard, and our vaccines are up to date [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Luby websites:

The Love Shack
The Luby Club - 746 members, and counting...
The Luby Sanctum
The Lubyrinth
Every Rose
Jodie's Luby Log
French Luby
The Luby Anthology
The Dance We Do
Warring Hearts
Space Between
Falls On Me - LJ Community

Lubies, Tramps and Thieves by Dawn

Dawn was born in the wagon of a travelling show
Caro would dance for the money they'd throw
And Aly would do whatever she could
Preach a little Luka
Sell a couple bottles of doctor good

Lubies, tramps and thieves
We'd hear it from the people in the town, they'd call us
Lubies, tramps and thieves
And every night the men would come around and lay their money down

Luka and Abby: Because love knows no reasons
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Old 01-22-2005, 01:04 AM
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And of course, the Luby Soundtrack

ABBA - Gimme, Gimme, Gimme
ABBA - I've Been Waiting For You
Air Supply - Even The Nights are Better
Alanis Morrisette - One Hand in my Pocket
Alanis Morrisette - Uninvited
Alien Ant Farm- Movies
Alien Ant Farm- Attitude
Alien Ant Farm- Sticks and Stones
Audioslave- Like A Stone
BB King and Eric Clapton - Hold on, I'm Coming
BBmak - Still on Your Side
Better Than Ezra - In The Blood
Billy Joel - Innocent Man
Billy Joel - For the Longest Time
Blessed Union of Souls - Hold Her Closer
Blink 182 - Dysentary Gary
Bob Dylan - Shelter From the Storm
Bonnie Raitt - Feels Like Home
Bryan Adams - Please Forgive Me
Bush - Letting the Cables Sleep
Carole King - Home Again
Carolyn Dawn Johnson - Complicated
Christina Rossetti - No Thank You, John (poem)
Coldplay - The Scientist
Coldyplay - In my place
Concrete Blonde- Joey
Counting Crows - A Long December
Counting Crows - Anna Begins
Cowboy Junkies - Good Friday
Chris Isaak - I Wonder
Daniel Bedingfield - If You're Not the One
Dave Matthews Band - #41
Dave Matthews Band - Angel
Dave Matthews Band - Crash Into Me
Dave Matthews Band - Crush
Dave Matthews Band - Let You Down
Dave Matthews Band - Lover Lay Down
Dave Matthews Band - Stay
Dave Matthews Band - The Space Between
Dave Matthews Band - Two Step
Dave Matthews Band - Where Are You Going?
Dido - White Flag
Don McLean - And I Love You So
Elton John - The Way You Look Tonight
Enya - Only Time
Eric Carmen - Hungry Eyes
Evanescene - Bring Me to Life
Expose - I'll Never Get Over You Getting Over Me
Faith Hill - This Kiss
Faith Hill - You Give Me Love
Five For Fighting - Do You Mind?
Five For Fighting - Easy Tonight
Five For Fighting - Super Man
Foo Fighters- Times Like These
Frank Sinatra - Ain't Love a Kick In the Head?
Fuel - Bad Day
Fuel- Innocent
Gavin DeGraw - Just Friends
Gloria Gaynor - Never Can Say Goodbye
Goo Goo Dolls - Acoustic #10
Goo Goo Dolls - Here Is Gone
Goo Goo Dolls - Iris
Goo Goo Dolls - Slide
Great Big Sea - Lukey
Greensleeves
Incubus - I Miss You
Jane French - Breathe
Jefferson Starship - I'll Be There For You
Jewel- Standing Still
Jewel - You Were Meant for Me
John Lennon - Jealous Guy
John Mayer - Back To You
John Mayer - Not Myself
John Mayer - Your Body Is A Wonderland
Joni Mitchell - Case of You
Journey - Remember Me
Julie Miller - Broken Things
K's Choice- Almost Happy
K's Choice- Only Dreaming
Kate - O Lubydom! [rewrite of O Canada!]
Kathleen Wilhoite - Wish We Never Met
Kelly Clarkson - Before Your Love
Kid Rock with Sheryl Crow - Picture
KISS - Calling Dr. Love
Kristen Hersh - Trouble
Lea Salonga - Can't Smile Without You
Lea Salonga - If I Give My Heart To You
Lea Salonga - I Need You Back
Lea Salonga - Only You
Lea Salonga - Special Memory
LeAnn Rimes - I Need You
LeAnn Rimes - The Right Kinda Wrong
Leigh Nash - I Need To Be Next To You
Lifehouse - Breathing
Linda Eder - Someone Like You
Lit - Live For This
Live- I alone
Live- Run to the Water
Live- The Dolphin's Cry
Lovin' Spoonful - Do You Believe in Magic?
Madonna - Crazy For You
Madonna - You Must Love Me
Mark Anthony - You Sang To Me
Matchbox 20 - Leave
Maroon 5 - She will be loved
Michael Ball - Just When
Michelle Branch - Everywhere
Monkeys - I'm a Believer
Natalie Imbruglia - Wrong Impression
Noa - Lubysleeves [Greensleeves rewrite]
Oasis - Wonderwall
Olivia Newton John/Grease - Hopelessly Devoted To You
Our Lady Peace - Clumsy
Our Lady Peace - Made Of Steel
Our Lady Peace - Somewhere Out There
Our Lady Peace - Superman's Dead
Our Lady Peace - Waited
Neil Young- Harvest Moon
Nickelback - How You Remind Me
Pat Benetar - We Belong
Phil Collins - Against All Odds
Phil Collins - You'll Be in My Heart
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Love Rollercoaster
REM - Crazy
REM - I'm Not Over You
REM - Losing My Religion
REM - You're In The Air
REM - Why Not Smile?
Sade - Every Word
Santana - Why Don't You and I
Sara Evans - Should I Care?
Sarah McLachlan - Angel
Sarah McLachlan - Building a Mystery
Sarah McLachlan - Fear
Sarah McLachlen - Ice Cream
Sarah McLachlan - I Love You
Sarah McLachlan - Push
Sarah McLachlan - Song For A Winter's Night
Seal - Dreaming in Metaphors
Seal - Kiss From A Rose
Selena - Dreaming of You
Shakira - Underneath Your Clothes
Shania Twain - Amneris' Letter
Shania Twain - The Woman in Me
Shania Twain - You're Still the One
Sheena Easton - For Your Eyes Only
Sister Hazel - Your Winter
Staind - Excess Baggage
Staind - It's Been Awhile
Sting - Every Breath You Take
Sting - It's Probably Me
Sting - You Still Touch Me
The Bangles - Eternal Flame
The Bangles - I Will Take Care of You
The Beatles - Help!
The Beatles - Yesterday
The Corrs - Irresistible
The Corrs - Looking In the Eyes of Love
The Corrs - Runaway
The Corrs - The Long and Winding Road
The Wonders - I Need You
Tim McGraw and Faith Hill - Let's Make Love
Timmy T - One more try
Tina Arena - Greatest Gift
TLC - Damaged
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - Walls
Tracy Chapman - Give Me One Reason
U2 - Trip Through Your Wires
U2 - With or Without You
Van Morrison - Have I Told You Lately?
Vertical Horizon - The Mountain Song
Vonda Shepard - You Belong to Me

We like to boogie woogie!
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Old 01-22-2005, 01:05 AM
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You. Guys. Talk. Way. Too. Much.



I need to catch up, but here's a new thread in the meantime.
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Old 01-22-2005, 02:40 AM
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Wehee new thread!! And was the text in the first post always pink?
<--- confused
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Old 01-22-2005, 02:45 AM
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No, I just changed now... needed a splash of color
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Old 01-22-2005, 02:48 AM
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Good thinking there, looks all pretty

I'm in such a lovely luby!denial!phase right now, nevermind the new eps... it's very odd and comfortable, heh.

BTW, since I recently have started loving Alanis Morrisette - 'Head over feet' is veyr luby-isk, IMO
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Old 01-22-2005, 02:58 AM
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Aw, thank you! I just love using colors, really.

Ah, same here. Though man, L/S? If I didn't know TPTB are stupid, I'd think they're on the brink of breaking up. Maaaybe.

You're right - I'm surprised it isn't on our list yet.
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I know!! I was so expecting him to yell "... I'm done, OK?" in that trauma when she was at her bitchiest But, you never know - since Goran is staying for next season, maybe we get something good sometime...

Ooh, I know - I was listening to it, and suddenly got this LUBY!!! -warning lamp above my head or something
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Old 01-22-2005, 03:19 AM
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I don't know if I actually expected them to break up, just to... not make up like that? if they would've done it after a real talk, fine, but what they had was a joke. Seriously, if TPTB want me to like them? That's sooo not the way.


Hehe, you have a Luby lamp?
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Old 01-22-2005, 03:27 AM
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Heh, yeah. I want to send TPTB some amateur psychology books or something

It's very good to have one

... I should get continued on m'post SH fic... I just seem to have a very bad writing phase right now, nothing ever works
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Hehe, I think they do need those. That scene just sucked, because while on its own it was cute, they didn't solve a thing. What will happen the next time Luka does something and Sam gets pissed? I wouldn't know because they didn't talk about it.


Aww. Just put it aside for a few days, go back to it later.
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Old 01-22-2005, 04:45 AM
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Yep. Dysfunctional crap is what it is. Cute, but crap nevertheless.

Mm, I should... except that I *want* to write it - I just keep having problems with the fan fic format and English, it's been so long since I wrote something for ER - that anyone actually read, that is, have some Luka ficlet full of lovely angst that no one has read att ff.net - that I have lost my touch, I think... It's scary when people told you you rocked for ages, and then you have to live up to it...
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New thread. Excellent

You have a fic at ff.net that noone has read Anna? I will try and remedy that for you over this weekend I'm sure you'll continue to reach high standards, you seem to be putting a lot of planning into your writing, always a good sign

GV is staying on for S12? I guess that's good news, but I won't hold out too much hope for any juicy Luby action. What's the general consensus on Abby/Jake? Is it a keeper? Surely tptb wouldn't come full circle on us finally?
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You know, I just can't win when it comes to ER anymore. I really expected to like Abby/Jake. In fact I was excited the first time I read he was coming and saw the pic. He's hunky and it seemed like it would be a nice change of pace, especially now that Luka's been turned into worse milquetoast than Mark ever was. But I found their scenes had no natural chemistry and seemed way too forced. I don't like it when I'm watching a couple and I can feel the writers/actors efforts to sell it rather than it just flowing. Not that I think I'll despise it like Carter/Abby and Sam/Luka, I may even warm to it, but it seems way too Cleo for me, and Jake is a bit of a flake (hey, it's not just me! Abby asked him if he was high when he was talking to her).

I don't know. Between Abby/Jake, Luka/Sam, and Carter/Wendall I just don't know where tptb's heads are at with relationships anymore. They make it so much harder than they need to, especially when they had the "new Doug and Carol" right in front of them.

Re Sam/Luka it was nice to have the validation verbalized that Luka's motivations in the relationship are questionable at best-that in his mind he sees someone who needs him to rescue and fix, not as an equal partner (not that Sam hasn't encouraged that, so I almost don't see her having the right to get angry at him for it). And I saw no indication from him that he acknowledged her complaints ie that it was actually going to change anything or that he even believed her. And the scene at the end came across as him wanting to avoid talking about it or accepting what she was saying, not as an actual legitimate resolution.

In a perfect world that would mean the beginning of the end but since this is tptb we're talking about it probably means they'll be married in 3 weeks (no! that's not a spoiler, that's sarcasm-I hope). I guess for me the problem is that it's like carby, there's so much wrong that I don't see any one thing being able to fix it. On the bright side, Carter proposed to Abby and then they broke up so anything is possible, despite appearances.

Luka wouldn't yell "I'm done" to Sam when she's bitchy because he thinks if he sticks with it she'll become what he wants or what he thinks she needs to be (carby much?). He thinks he's saving her (and Alex). I think if anyone calls it it will have to be Sam. I think Luka must think that his only fault with Abby was giving up and he's not going to give up on Sam no matter what, and thinks that will make it all ok. It still seems like he thinks he has to earn love and that his feelings are secondary (which is why I love the idea that Abby simply loves him in spite of everything) Anyway, that's my dimestore overanalysis, and we all know tptb don't think things through very much.

There were a couple luby moments, but minimal at best. One when Abby comes back to work and Luka sees her walk past he calls to her excitedly and they exchange brief niceties, but Morris is there talking to her too and then Chuny interrupts to greet her. And at the end Neela's asking Abby about workplace crushes, then they both run into Luka/Sam and there's an awkward exchange and looks between Luka/Abby. Still it's nice to see those tiny reminders that they were once something to each other. It's an improvement on earlier this season when they may as well have been perfect strangers as far as tptb were concerned.

from Kikkoman last thread: "Still, just because neither said the word, it doesn't mean the feeling wasn't there, does it?"
Actions speak louder than words (or should). It's why I had trouble buying the Carter love or the Luka/Sam ILU. No passion or genuineness to it, too much else coming into play. What I've always loved about Luka/Abby is that even after the breakup when they weren't trying to prove anything to each other you could see the caring and affection for each other. It came out time and time again, and made me believe that the depth of caring was very deep, whether they ever verbalized it or not. That's what makes a relationship real for me, not simply two people going through the motions of a relationship or speaking all the "right" words.

annuscka, what's your screenname at ff.net? It's been awhile since I've gone and looked for any new luby fics. About time I changed that.
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I don't know. Between Abby/Jake, Luka/Sam, and Carter/Wendall I just don't know where tptb's heads are at with relationships anymore. They make it so much harder than they need to, especially when they had the "new Doug and Carol" right in front of them.
So I have a lot of unsatisfactory stuff to look forward to then?

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What I've always loved about Luka/Abby is that even after the breakup when they weren't trying to prove anything to each other you could see the caring and affection for each other. It came out time and time again, and made me believe that the depth of caring was very deep, whether they ever verbalized it or not. That's what makes a relationship real for me, not simply two people going through the motions of a relationship or speaking all the "right" words.
ITA, couch tomato. They didn't have to say it, they just did it. Like the fab old guerney chase for instance. Like the way Abby tweaked the IV at the end of that ep. But I think L/A always had some good, realistic dialogue between them, not necessarily the "right words," but just stuff that was relevant and made sense, adult discussion, no BS. But I also miss all that fun flirtatiousness like in IAIYH. Always a great balance between humour and seriousnessm too IMO. Ah, I'm feeling nostalgic!
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