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Old 08-02-2011, 05:42 AM
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Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #26: Gushing and Discussing since 1994! *BEST FIGHT SURVIVOR!*


"I'm still in love with him. I am. I've been in love with him since I was 23 years old.
He's - he's everything to me. He's my life. I feel complete when I'm with him and I feel
empty when we're apart. He - he's the father of my children, and he's my soulmate."


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Previous Threads
Doug/Carol Appreciation #1: Because They're Missed
Animal Crackers (Doug/Carol) Appreciation #2: Because they *are* soulmates
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #3: Because not even 2,052 miles could keep them apart
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #4: Because a Decade Later and They're Strong=Soulmates
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #5: Because they made us believe in happy endings
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #6: Because parting with them was "Such Sweet Sorrow"
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #7: Because what went on in that exam room was no Obstruction of Justice
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #8: Because it's been 9 years since they left County and they're still talked about there
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #9: After 9 years their love is as strong
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #10: Because they are *still* soulmates
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #11: Because we will never forget them
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #12: Because can we PLEASE have a movie starring George and Julianna?
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #13: Because a turkey plucker? A psycho fireman? Doug wins hands down!
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #14 Because Doug couldn't even leave her alone in the bath tub!
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #15: Because Julianna loved her "ER" finale scene with George
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #16: Because they showed us that real love really exists
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #17: Because after all these years George and Julianna still can't help but kiss on camera
Animal Crackers (Doug♥Carol) #18: "I'm scared to death of losing you" "Don't be" ♥
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We love Doug & Carol...
01. Because for Doug, Carol is the perfect love like in 'Sleepless in Seattle'.
02. Because Carol's loved Doug since she was 23.
03. Because she's his soulmate.
04. Because he 'dreams of the taste of her neck and the smell of her hair on his pillow'.
05. Because Doug got to come inside.
06. Because she went to Seattle for him.
07. Because he got her animal crackers for her birthday.
08. Because the twins' last name is Ross, not Hathaway.
09. Because they never stopped loving each other.
10. Because he was the only one who didn't think she was crazy when she wanted to adopt Tatiana.
11. Because even Tag knew they should be together.
12. Because the ER wasn't surprised when they got together.
13. Because she left Luka for Doug.
14. Because he wrote her a love letter from California.
15. Because even if he didn't ask her, she followed him in California for his dad's funeral 'cause she knew he needed her.
16. Because he is there next morning (4x02).
17. Because he wants his own drawer (4x02).
18. Because he'd do anything for her (4x05).
19. Because George came back to ER even with a strong movie career because he knew that Doug and Carol belong together.
20. Because we can see it in Carol's eyes when she's with Doug; she's happy, and it's real.
21. Because her confession of love about Doug was always there, she just had to realize it.
22. Because they make each other smile.
23. Because he thought about her all the time.
24. Because he was willing to change for her.
25. Because the whole ER knew they belonged together.
26. Because he comforted her after Tag left her at the altar.
27. Because they kept sharing "looks" at the reception.
28. Because she was worried about him when they weren't going to renew his fellowship.
29. Because he makes her laugh.
30. Because he was the first to know she was thinking about going to medical school.
31. Because he helped her study for her physics exam.
32. Because they celebrated when she did well.
33. Because he was the "surprise guest" and she didn't mind(too much lol).
34. Because he missed her when she was suspended.
35. Because he was worried when they found out she was one of the hostages.
36. Because he thought she was good enough to be a doctor.
37. Because she can get through his door.
38. Because he remembered her birthday.
39. Because he helped with her surprise party.
40. Because they even had a shot of them talking to each other in the opening.
41. Because he offered to take her out for her birthday.
42. Because they sang to one of the patients together.
43. Because he wanted her to have a nice birthday.
44. Because he put her down as a character reference when he was applying to be a "Big Brother."
45. Because he watches her when she walks away.
46. Because she knew what.
47. Because that kiss was HOT (3x22).
48. Because George and Julianna had amazing chemistry.
49. Because he wants to marry her.
50. Because he wants to know her ring size.
51. Because he bought her a ring.
52. Because Doug asked Carol's mom for Carol's hand in marriage.
53. Because he can run but he cannot hide.
54. Because "she's the longest female relationship he's ever had."
55. Because after all these years Julianna and George are still good friends.
56. Because he thinks about her all the time.
57. Because not even 2,052 miles could keep them apart.
58. Because they still love Seattle.
59. Because Tess and Kate are in 3rd grade.
60. Because it's been 9 years since they left County and they're still talked about there.
61. Because 2009 is the year of the Animal Cracker.
62. Because they'll be the first and last ER love story.
63. Because Julianna says the chemistry is still there.
64. Because they wouldn't return for the last season without each other.
65. Because they came back.
66. Because the girls are old enough to complain about spelling tests.
67. Because they have rings.
68. Because they're still happy and in love nearly a decade later.
69. Because they are *still* soulmates.
70. Because the 'ship is like the Energizer Bunny of ER. It keeps going and going and going...
71. Because Carol's as much of a rebel as Doug is.
72. Because he would bring her coffee in the middle of the night
73. Because they closed the deal on their first date (not on the third)



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Old 08-02-2011, 08:14 AM
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I just meant the fact that she actually followed through with it and managed to make a difference in ER aside from her job as a nurse.
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Old 08-02-2011, 08:57 AM
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I agree!! In fact, when ER was winding down some blogger named Carol and Abby as their favourites from all 15 seasons (you can see why I would read this blog) but named Abby as their absolute favourite because they felt like Carol never really developed outside of her relationship of Doug. While, OF COURSE Carol did in many ways with things like the med school storyline and opening her clinic, I do agree that generally speaking her biggest moments and her biggest conflicts did tend to stem from her romantic relationships. And what you were saying about other shows too - that is definitely true in a lot of cases. So many actresses have said the majority of female roles out there are for the "girlfriend", and while there are always exceptions to this rule and while at the moment there are probably more female-driven shows than ever, there are still a great deal of shows/movies where the women are only developed romantically.
Exactly, all of this. And it's not that I don't want couples to happen, no, I just wanna know that both characters can exist without each other and still be just as interesting. I want romantic relationships to be ONE of the many aspects of a character/show, not ALL of it.

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Old 08-02-2011, 09:24 AM
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I need to replace the Such Sweet Sorrow caps in the OP with high quality ones from the DVD. Keep forgetting!

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Exactly, all of this. And it's not that I don't want couples to happen, no, I just wanna know that both characters can exist without each other and still be just as interesting. I want romantic relationships to be ONE of the many aspects of a character/show, not ALL of it.
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And ER would do a good job of that when it came to Carol, but inevitably when they needed to create some conflict in her life they would have something happen with or about Doug.
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Exactly, all of this. And it's not that I don't want couples to happen, no, I just wanna know that both characters can exist without each other and still be just as interesting. I want romantic relationships to be ONE of the many aspects of a character/show, not ALL of it.
I agree. Once you watch a show only for a ship, then chances are greater you'll be disappointed.

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While, OF COURSE Carol did in many ways with things like the med school storyline and opening her clinic, I do agree that generally speaking her biggest moments and her biggest conflicts did tend to stem from her romantic relationships.
There' also her failed suicide attempt and her getting past it and being in control of her life like she said in season 3. Carol's relationship's weren't the only aspect to her character.

I love that Golden Globes animation I remember i watched those awards live and when she went over to George i couldn't stop smiling. It was one of the highlights of those awards for me.
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:01 AM
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Aww yeah,

This happened to Nav and ET, one of my favorite couples. Nav was pretty cool. She was promoted lieutenant very young and was actually the superior of her love interest. She was funny, strong, caring, kick-butt, ultra smart, but for some reason, most of her stories tended to revolve around ET. When she got angry, it was about or at him. When she cried, it was about him. When she was happy, it was against mostly about him. Even after he died, her big story was about his murder, her grief and catching his killers. The few episodes that season that weren't about his death, she didn't have that much to do. She did have one episode where she was shown outside of grief mode but then she seemed to almost not be shown the others. It wasn't surprising that the actress chose to quit at the end of the season because the writers really didn't seem to know what to write for her without him, which is a shame because even though I adored the couple, she was a very interesting character on her own right.

I see this the same way with Carol. I adored Doug and Carol too, and thought Carol was great but all her big stories seemed to revolve around Doug and when he left, she seemed lost. She still had some scenes but it wasn't the same.

I specifically use those two examples because they are two couples I loved, but I find it a shame that when a couple gets very popular, and one of the half leaves, the writers so often don't know how to write for the remaining half.
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Among the ER women, I think Elizabeth is the most extreme example among all of them. When she started, she was tied up to a man (Peter), then when they broke up, she becomes coupled up with another (Mark). Okay, she had her own moments to shine, but most of her storylines revolve around romance, more so than Carol did. When Mark died, apart from the Paul Nathan arc, what else?

At least with Doug and Carol, both had big storylines of their own during their relationship. It could have been worse.
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With both Carol and Elizabeth, towards the end of their runs it felt like the writers were really scratching their heads to come up with new stories for them. With Carol specifically, it felt like "Okay she'll deal with this patient for the whole episode to get us through this week" and the writers kind of scraped along with her. And I think a lot of that had to do with the character running her course, which Julianna herself admitted was one of the reasons she left. Characters aren't meant to have eternal life-spans, and I think it's just unfortunate that Julianna had to be on the show (by contract) for just a tiny bit longer than Carol needed to be.

That's why I love "Such Sweet Sorrow" so much as an exit episode for Carol. You really see her realise, "Just what the hell am I still doing here, drifting through each day, when there's a whole life waiting for me somewhere else?".
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Among the ER women, I think Elizabeth is the most extreme example among all of them. When she started, she was tied up to a man (Peter), then when they broke up, she becomes coupled up with another (Mark). Okay, she had her own moments to shine, but most of her storylines revolve around romance, more so than Carol did. When Mark died, apart from the Paul Nathan arc, what else?
and she is my favorite ER character. They had so much potential there. And I still think they would have done a much better job if Elizabeth and Peter had remained friends. But it seems impossible to have a male/female relationship that doesn't involve romance (Mark/Susan anyone?)

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At least with Doug and Carol, both had big storylines of their own during their relationship. It could have been worse.
yes Carol had quite a lot really, I just think they could have explore them more
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TFTNT! Awesome title!

I agree, there would've been a lot of things they could've shown in Carol's storyline but I also know that there have been a lot of characters and a lot of storylines they needed to show...
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Yeah. In my opinion, the biggest mis-step the writers took with Carol was by saddling her with Shep for an entire year right after she broke up with Tag. Now, this has nothing to do with my feelings about Shep as a character. Carol could have been with anyone at that point and I still wouldn't have liked it, because it made Carol seem quite flaky. Like, she had been head over heels in love with Doug, then stuck in a relationship with Tag, and then as soon as she had made her peace with both, she was in love with ANOTHER guy. So I think Season 2 would have been a nice opportunity for the writers to explore Carol on her own (as they did in Season 3) instead of partnering her up again.
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