fall like stars

So beautiful Susan!

I agree about the library scenes. I'm so looking forward to my rewatch.

broken crown

Thanks!

When do you plan on doing your rewatch?

fall like stars

Honestly, very soon. Maybe this week sometime.

broken crown

Wow that soon huh? That's great! I hope you'll post your thoughts on the board.

We're going to be doing a board rewatch soon. IDK when...I have to work out the math. 18 episodes=18 weeks. I want to make sure it spans practically the entire hiatus. I'm just going to retop the discussion threads and people can add their new thoughts in it...and it'll stay that way for a week. I'm guessing probably Wednesdays since that's the day the show airs.

I rewatch parts of episodes all the time because of giffing. I still haven't gotten to everything I want to get to...so it's a long process.

fall like stars

Yes, this week or week...we'll see! I just really want to get started on my own personal rewatch to see the details I missed especially early on.

That sounds awesome! I would join in on that rewatch too since it'll be over a longer period of time. It'll be fun.

broken crown

It's definitely fun! You pick up all the mystery strands early and you also know what certain characters are aware of as their personal plots unfold.

Not to mention...you see how the writers attempt to fix their early character/relationship mistakes...and they do a decent job in a relatively short amount of time.

fall like stars

Yes, I'm excited to see all of that. I barely remember the pilot right now.

broken crown

Well...you might want to adjust your expectations. It's only okay...even after rewatching it a few times. It doesn't really even grow on you. The show is just so different now with how it treats certain characters and relationships. They mystery was always good though.

Shu- (if you are out there): Did you know Josh Schwartz and Stephanie Savage co-wrote the pilot with the series creator? I'm assuming it was only to help the show get picked up, but Thank God they don't write for the show normally!

ds44

It’s why I avoided the show like the plague at first. But, maybe they have improved. Runaways was decent and that was josh. It’s Stephanie that worries me. I hope she never writes a word ever again.

broken crown

I mean I knew they were executive producers, but I only just caught right now...that they co-wrote the pilot. NO WONDER it's so tropey at times...and no wonder about some storyline elements...like the super-cringey beginning with another couple I won't mention. Yikes. Or how they lay it on thick with Ace being the "comic relief" so they can surprise you with "omg he's working for the police". I actually think I thought when I watched the pilot that he was an undercover cop or something. I KNOW! OR how of course!! Ryan and George are having an affair?!!? OR OMG Carson is hooking up with his late wife's bestie?? So glad nearly all of those elements are gone from the show now. It's just takes away from the brilliance of the show.

ds44

It does I cared more about the mystery at firet but even the character beats improved over time.

broken crown

EXACTLY! When I decided to give the show another shot...I decided if anything I was going to watch for the mystery and Kennedy's portrayal of Nancy.

I'm so glad they figured out the character beats...even if it took several episodes at the beginning.

It's also funny to note....that the entire season only takes place over about 5-6 weeks. The pilot starts on August 31st and then the majority of the action takes place in September....ending in early October. The last last 6 episodes take place in less than a week. It's so crazy. I'm hoping more times passes by in Season 2.

fall like stars

Yes while the early eps are kinda hazy to me, I can tell the show has improved so much from the beginnning compared to the last handful of eps that aired. I always loved the mystery aspect but the overall quality of the character stuff and overall writing has greatly improved.

broken crown

You were the one who tried to get me to catch up on Christmas!! You said "the show got really good"? What part were you talking about?

fall like stars

Yes, the pilot was just OK, but by episode 9 I was loving it and told you to catch up. That is true. But in hindsight, the last handful of episodes were much better quality than the early episodes. I'd have to do my rewatch to pinpoint when the show really turned it up a notch. But the overall writing and quality of the show just skyrocketed the last couple eps especially. I didn't know the mystery would turn out to be so strong!