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Old 10-05-2019, 08:52 PM
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Batwoman [Episode Discussion] - 1x01 "Pilot"

Season 1, Episode 01
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Original Air Date: October 6, 2019




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Have fun watching. I have posted about the shows premiere on our social media networks.
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Thanks for doing that, Myra!
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I enjoyed the premiere though it looks like the premiere is set before the timeline of the last crossover, I'm curious if they will be doing a time jump to catch it up to the current... Though it looks like she never did change that Wi-Fi password from Alfred.
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I remember reading that the first few eps are set before the crossover I think? Guess it slowly jumps through time as it gets closer to the second crossover?
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Ohhhh.. how was it?? I hope I can watch it soon
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It had a promising start. I'm gonna stick this one out.
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:52 AM
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To clarify, "Elseworlds" takes place between the Batwoman Season 1 episodes "Down Down Down" (1x03) and "Who Are You?" (1x04).

Here's a bullet-point-review of the Pilot:
* This is perhaps the most 'formulaic' Arrowverse series since The Flash and the one that feels the most like the series that started it all, Arrow, itself

* Luke was based way too obviously and closely on Curtis Holt for me, but I'm hoping that they'll give him his own character sooner rather than later

* It becomes crystal-clear pretty early on that Alice being Beth was never some big 'secret' that the series intended to hide from the viewers, and I'm honestly not sure why the expectation was that it would be

* I think the expectation is that there will be some kind of eventual love triangle/split between Kate, Sophie, and Tyler, but given how firmly the show has based itself on the Arrow template, I don't think this is as crystal-clear as people might think, and leaves the door open for any onscreen romance involving Kate to come from somewhere - and someone - else

* I've seen some speculation out there that Kate and Beth aren't identical twins here because they're played by actresses of different ages as adults, but there's nothing within the Pilot itself that suggests that the characters aren't identical twins and so until/unless something comes along to explicitly confirm that they're not, I see no reason not to operate under the assumption that they are

* This isn't specified in the Pilot itself as aired (it might have been in the original script), but the day that Gabi, Beth, and Kate were knocked off the road was the day of Kate and Beth's bat mitzvah, and the necklaces that they were wearing were likely bat mitzvah gifts from either their parents or someone else

* I find myself wondering what the exact age difference between Bruce, Kate, and Beth is

* Having seen what the Pilot has established Mary's role as, I find myself wondering whether or not she'll actually ever learn that her stepsister and Batwoman are one and the same person (I'd previously thought it was an inevitability)

* Mary clearly sees Kate as being somebody to look up to, but it doesn't sound like the two characters are particularly close or have interacted with one another all that much

* Maybe it's the tenor of their scene together, but I really don't like Catherine Hamilton-Kane all that much, and don't think she actually loves or cares about either Kate or Mary, which creates an interesting contrast between her and the character she's clearly modeled after, Moira Queen

All in all, this was a very strong premiere episode that set up Kate's story pretty much flawlessly, and I can't wait until next week.
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I watched the pilot episode on a whim and really, really enjoyed it. Alice is already a favorite character/villain for me. And Batwoman intrigues me a lot as well. I think the casting was pretty good. Will Batwoman ever wear the red wig from the comics in this show? Just curious because she hasn't yet been seen with it in this first episode.

I am definitely going to keep following this show.
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I'm glad to hear the positive reviews. I was worried, because of all the shade thrown at the trailer all over Youtube. The show impressed me and was better than I thought. I wanted to love it but was cautious. I didn't want to be disappointed. I wasn't at all! Not one bit.
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To clarify, "Elseworlds" takes place between the Batwoman Season 1 episodes "Down Down Down" (1x03) and "Who Are You?" (1x04).
this confuses me.. I thought it was like a backdoor pilot?
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this confuses me.. I thought it was like a backdoor pilot?
Only in the sense that it (Elseworlds) marked the debut of her character.

Batwoman's development trajectory followed a similar path to that of The Flash '14, with the only difference being the chronological in-universe sequence of events as we as an audience see them.

To put it more simply, we as an audience were introduced to Kate's story in media res with her appearance in Elseworlds, and now we're seeing the start of that story with the first few episodes of her titular series.

It's a style of storytelling that the Arrowverse hasn't used before, but it worked.
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Does anyone know what Earth this Batwoman series is on? I thought someone said same as The Flash but I'm not sure?
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Same as Flash and Arrow. There was a crossover last year when Arrow Flash and Supergirl went to Gotham City and met Batwoman.
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Same as Flash and Arrow. There was a crossover last year when Arrow Flash and Supergirl went to Gotham City and met Batwoman.
Thanks! I even watched that Crossover but forgot, haha.

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