My Kind Of Crazy

wickedrum

I read up on that as I watched!

stlavin95

Thanks for that

Karma Police

Finished the second season last night. Really enjoyed it, agree that it wasn't as slow as the previous season.

Do you know if there are any reviews by black critics? I'm interested in their take on how the Atlanta murders were handled.

CONDEMNED666

there was something disturbing/ distressing about the result of the atlanta murders tbh. just the lack of closure, and how they pinned the evidence on someone who may have committed 2 of the murders/ if any

thats how real life works. how people want to get a result / closure and a master criminal/ criminals get away with it

Karma Police

I knew the cases were never really solved, so it wasn't a surprise to me but it was still sad and distressing, as you said. The victim's families never got real justice or closure.

CONDEMNED666

the thing that was realistic was how dissatisfying the ending was.

its normally a trope for crime dramas to 'catch the bad guy'. but mindhunter turned that expectation upside down

especially with holden and tench, two 'outstanding' detectives who saw things clearly, seemingly making questionable investigation methods and tench preoccupied with events at home?

bottom line: i felt unclean for seeing how things were resolved. how things werent resolved or how things were resolved in an unsatisfying manner

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how messed up is this track? and also this one->

Karma Police

It's because they are real cases and a lot of serial killers were either never caught or it took a long time. The BTK killer was only caught in 2005.

CONDEMNED666

the thing was how tench kept saying he was going to focus on his family (and his son) as soon as they got the atlanta investigation sorted

and he was neither here nor there

and ford was obviously still affected by panic attacks, but in ways that affected his judgment and investigation methods (eg going to the charity event), holding up the cross, it didnt make any sense (to catching the killer) when it was unfolding

wickedrum

well yeah, but that again is reality. People often can't focus on their jobs as much as necessary because of various problems. It was realistic and I like that about this show. Other crime shows tend to make it appear like the characters do nothing else in their lives but bury themselves in their work

Karma Police

Yes, it was very realistic that Tench couldn't really focus on neither his job nor his family. And he kept wondering whether his son could become a serial killer too, it was especially obvious in the interrogation scene with Manson and when the judge said during that weekend trip that he'd rather put young criminals for minor offences away so that their criminal minds don't evolve.

I think the cross was meant to symbolize that good intentions (in this case of white allies) are nice but don't really help. When I saw the cross I was like: the marchers are probably going to wonder when he's going to lit it on fire.

stlavin95

Not sure actually

CONDEMNED666

it was a strange 'moment of clarity' in the conversation when they were strategizing to catch the killer when holden came up with the idea of the cross

i said: whats that got to do with anything? thats not going to catch the killer.

that was typical of the muddled thinking for the characters from the second season

then again, Charles Manson (featured for 5 minutes) was someone who was convinced the song by the Beatles Helter Skelter was about the upcoming race war when black people were no longer disempowered, and they would take over the world due to their dominant physiques <-
So I guess the Charles Manson scene was not to be easily dismissed, even when they didnt have to catch him or investigate a bunch of crimes which were similar to him and what the manson family did

oh, and this->



EDIT -> this is an interesting piece concerning david fincher and his style of filmmaking. can anyone notice it on Mindhunter?

stlavin95

That is pretty realistic

My Kind Of Crazy