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Old 06-05-2017, 10:53 AM
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The Waterfords {Fred ღ Serena Joy}/Yvonne & Joseph: "never mistake a woman's meekness for weakness"

The Waterfords {Fred ღ Serena Joy}/Yvonne & Joseph

Serena Joy was once in a loving relationship with Fred Waterford (Joseph Fiennes), better known to us as the Scrabble-loving rapist Commander. Yes, the two of them recited Bible verses about fruitfulness during sex, but people get up to all kinds of odd things during sex; it's why you look for thick walls in an apartment building. Stranger than their Bible fetish is the fact that their marriage was once remarkably egalitarian. Both worked in and around politics; both were passionate about the same causes. You get the sense that Serena is the brains of the operation, and Fred hardly holds her back. When she tells him about a big idea she's had for a new book, he's supportive, and when their male colleagues shut her out of important discussions, he promises to fight for her. At a glance, the whole thing looks...healthy.

Yet this modern-looking, aspirational marriage is a vehicle for turning America back to the 1700s. Serena's book idea concerns "fertility as a national resource, reproduction as a moral imperative." (She never got the chance to write it; the very people she empowered made it illegal for women to read shortly after she got the idea.) Her first book, A Woman's Place, extolled the power of being submissive and accommodating to men and accused women of "abandoning their families." It established her as a voice on the forefront of what she called "domestic feminism." Chillingly, Serena Joy tried to sell the world on a return to total male domination by making the patriarchy look progressive—and she got what she wanted.

from: Serena Joy Is the Scariest Anti-Feminist on Television - How 'The Handmaid's Tale' Villain Came to Stand for a New Anti-Women Movement



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Thanks for this one too.
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Old 06-05-2017, 02:02 PM
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Thanks for making this Rita!

I do find these two interesting. Not sure I ship them but I find their dynamic very interesting!

I was happy to see that there was genuine love and respect between them before Gilead.
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Yeah I like the conversation them two together. Its an interesting talking point.
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Thanks for the thread. And the quote and link in the OP.

Don't ship them but find their dynamic interesting, as everyone mentioned.
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Old 06-07-2017, 05:38 AM
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They're very interesting! They were a little uncomfortable in last week's episode


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I love that shot
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Thanks for starting. Like everyone else I'm not sure I ship it but I am so intrigued by their dynamic.
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For me it's just sad that a relationship that started out of love, seems to have like no love left.
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Indeed. As twisted as both of them were even before it all went down, they did seem to genuinely love or at least be attracted to each other.
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they certainly deserve each other
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Indeed. As twisted as both of them were even before it all went down, they did seem to genuinely love or at least be attracted to each other.
I agree, there's something there. And outside of gilead im sure that they would have been an healthy relationship
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