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Old 07-05-2020, 10:19 AM
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Becks, I knew Arryn was bisexual while she was dating Bob. I saw some Reddit AMA she'd done, if I recall.

Listen, you guys, I'm thinking it's going to be best to voluntarily close the board. For now, at least. Most of you guys know that there is probably no bigger Bob Morley fan out there than me. I've deactivated Twitter because of this, and I'm probably going to exit both my FF boards because of this (at least for a while). This is devastating to me. My only two current escapes right now in life, in the midst of this pandemic, are fanfic and Sims. I have Bellarke Sims. I write fanfic for Bellarke. Fanfic was going to be hard enough to continue after just a horrendous 7th season, but will I be able to continue now? I don't know. My passion for writing is centered around this ship, and here I am in the midst of posting a story that I feel is one of the greatest things I've ever written. I feel like I could potentially be losing a creative outlet that means a lot to me, in addition to potentially losing a man who has inspired me to the point where he has probably saved my life and has been a legitimate hero to me. Someone I've met on multiple occasions and paid a lot of money to see. Someone who is responsible for providing me some of the best, most enjoyable memories of my entire life and who has indeed been one of the kindest, most generous, friendly people I've ever met. I'm not gonna change my narrative on him (or Eliza) now. My experiences remain what they were, and they were GREAT.

But I also don't want to discount Arryn's experiences. I don't not believe that this is her truth, but I also don't just blindly "believe victims," as the saying goes. And I know that could sound problematic to say, and if that makes some of you feel differently about me, then so be it. But there have been too many incidents I have watched play out over the past year for me to do that, including some in recent months. I want to hear Bob's side (and Eliza's, too, tbh), because I do think it's possible that there could be some truth there as well; and I disagree that their silence right now is deafening. We don't know what is going on behind the scenes or if Bob is even in any condition to make a statement. Ultimately, they are not required to say anything to the fans. Although I'm not gonna lie, I wish they would. I'm not blindly defending Bob here, either, but I would like to know more. I can't deny all the good I've seen in him over the years. I do think it is possible that he was ****ty and toxic in his relationship but might still otherwise still be a good and much better person now. I don't know. I just DON'T KNOW, and I hope no one, especially my closest friends (you know who you are) are not disappointed with me for needing to take some time to figure out my opinion. For me, this just feels like I'm potentially losing everything. And maybe I am. Or maybe I'm not. I don't know.

I'm okay, though. I know some of you worry about me right now. I've got therapy this month. Hopefully that will do me some good.
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Old 07-05-2020, 10:37 AM
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I understand where you are coming from.

Unforunately, actors are still human beings too. They have lives. We forget that sometimes. We don't know what goes on behind closed doors.

I say, wait until the show is over and decide about the faith of the forum.
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I believe Arryn.

I am processing this and it’s going to take me a while. I don’t know what else to say even though I have so much to say.
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Old 07-06-2020, 01:20 PM
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Old 07-07-2020, 11:16 AM
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I think I had posted on the wrong thread.
I'm going to talk about this only this time.
I believe in Arryn, yes, that's her truth. I condemn Bob and Eliza's attitudes, especially Bob's. But they both helped me a lot too. And I can't hate them, I'm sorry but I can't. I hope he understands that his behavior was problematic and that he is trying to improve as a person, that he is taking medication and that he's in therapy. I hope he (them) apologizes to Arryn. I hope Arryn is getting better. You can judge and condemn me for it, but that's what I feel.
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Old 07-07-2020, 08:46 PM
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I think I had posted on the wrong thread.
I'm going to talk about this only this time.
I believe in Arryn, yes, that's her truth. I condemn Bob and Eliza's attitudes, especially Bob's. But they both helped me a lot too. And I can't hate them, I'm sorry but I can't. I hope he understands that his behavior was problematic and that he is trying to improve as a person, that he is taking medication and that he's in therapy. I hope he (them) apologizes to Arryn. I hope Arryn is getting better. You can judge and condemn me for it, but that's what I feel.
Exactly how I feel, TBH. I don’t know why you think people will judge you though?
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Old 07-08-2020, 02:01 PM
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I know that I personally have worried that people are going to condemn me for not automatically condemning Bob. But we all have different backgrounds and experiences and perspectives that shape our opinions on this.

Like with the Conageddon VIP thing, are people going to judge me if I keep mine? Probably. But the more I think about it, the more I just don’t care what anyone else thinks. I believe that this is Arryn’s truth. Do I think it’s a whole and accurate truth? Probably not. How can it be when we only have one person’s story? For selfish reasons, I wish Bob (and possibly Eliza) would speak out, but I know that we as fans aren’t entitled to that and that it could be a bad business move, and I would understand if they want to handle it privately behind the scenes. I think they’ll be lambasted and “cancelled” either way, whether they say something or not.
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Old 07-08-2020, 02:45 PM
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I'm just a bit sick at the behaviour of people on Twitter (from both sides). People are using this an an excuse to threaten Bob and Eliza, or using this situation as some sort of weird vindication for hating him over the years. Then digging, digging, digging and trying to find any possible item (sometimes out of context) to prove that him and Eliza are monsters. It's a bit sick. How about not spreading more hate into the world?

I realise on the other side that people are also trying to discount Arryn, yes. I just find the entire situation to be bizarre and upsetting.
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I'm just a bit sick at the behaviour of people on Twitter (from both sides). People are using this an an excuse to threaten Bob and Eliza, or using this situation as some sort of weird vindication for hating him over the years. Then digging, digging, digging and trying to find any possible item (sometimes out of context) to prove that him and Eliza are monsters. It's a bit sick. How about not spreading more hate into the world?
They're vile and have their own agenda, and it's SO transparent. Imagine using this situation to your gain, for what - a fictional ship war? It's disgusting, is what it is. Just because Bob has been outed in this case as an abuser/cheater, doesn't mean the abuse hurled at him over the years (when nothing was known) is right at all.
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They should read the post JK Rowling and a lot of other public figures made - this entire "cancel" culture is sickening!
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Old 07-09-2020, 11:21 AM
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Posting here about the prequel episode, cause I don't want to deal with the episode thread.

Love that Clarke, Raven, and Miller had 20 seconds to react to losing the male lead of the show. It's sad to be glad about that, but, I actually expected less. Octavia didn't even get that much. Nice of JR to have Clarke remind us that she and Bellamy are besties. Too late to back pedal on that, Jason Rothenberg, or should I call him Jason Baitman. Nah, that's an insult to Mr. Bateman.

I'm enjoying Gabriel and his obvious "not missing a thing that's going on here" facial expressions. Dude knows plenty.

After seeing the warrior trio come out as disciples, I'm pretty sure that they are just infiltrating until the time is right. Echo is, at the very least.

Cadogan is a delusional dickhead.

I always enjoy Becca scenes and it was good to see her included in the prequel. Having said that, I am so over the whole flame and commanders storyline. Let it die already. Another whole series with that plotline. If I hadn't already made up my mind that I wasn't gonna watch JR's prequel, this would have done it for me.

Callie seemed like a mashup of Clark and Octavia. She was ok, and the actress was ok. Nothing for me to get excited about. The character of the mother played out a bit like Abby for me. That was probably due to writing choices. Reese is the troubled bad guy who will hopefully see the error of his ways if the show gets picked up. Everything seemed way too similar to the setup of the current show. The one exception being that the leads are siblings, so they can't (or shouldn't) be part of any shipper wars.

And Cadogan was a delusional dickhead even back then.

Overall, I wasn't impressed. I saw nothing that would make me want to watch this story play out again. It it gets picked up, JR will get another chance to fix his mistakes. He's already had 7 seasons to do that.. I love how he and some of The 100 cast are really hyping it up. He's practically begging. I hope the CW passes on it.
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Modo, I didn’t even watch last night. I don’t think I’m going to finish out the series, tbh. I feel so over it. But “Jason Baitman” had me The only scenes I watched were the Clarke ones. Of course they had her comfort Raven. And we all knew Bellamy was her best friend, but it’s just another line for people to use against Bellarke now.

So the whole thing is revolving around the flame and commanders? I’ll pass. God, I’ve always hated those storylines. Would you mind giving me a quick synopsis? I don’t even feel like reading reviews.



I hate cancel culture so much. Always have, always will.

I don’t know what’s so wrong about just saying that it seems like Bob and Arryn were fundamentally incompatible and that they both likely made mistakes in that relationship. I don’t think either one of them is a horrible person. But you can’t say that on Twitter without being dragged through the mud. That’s why I got the hell off of it.

Share time: I was in a toxic relationship with my one and only serious boyfriend back in college. I yelled at him; he yelled at me. We argued and disagreed a lot. Could one call it emotionally abusive? Sure, on both sides. Do we think of it that way? No, because we both owned up to our **** and moved on. I’m not a horrible person, and neither is he. I think we both learned and grew and became better people.
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Some people just want to hate and attack. It's disgusting.

I didn't watch the prequel just clarke's scenes but I read some people saying it was a good episode, I don't know, do you think they're going to pick up the new series? I have no interest in it.
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Old 07-09-2020, 07:47 PM
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I don't know why Arryn ever got so much hate in the first place. I'm proud to say I never took part in that. No, wait . . . actually, I'm not proud, because there's nothing to be proud of about that fact. It's just basic human decency.

I have no interest in the prequel either, because lord knows I have no interest in the grounders. But I think it will get picked up because reviews were generally positive, ratings were decent, and no other pilots have been able to film anything because of the pandemic.
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I just skimmed through some of the posts here, and I’m so sorry about what’s been transpiring. The accusations against Bob seem so OCC, but we don’t know what goes on behind closed doors of people’s personal lives. I am sure him & Eliza are needing to take some time to themselves to sort through this and figure out how to respond to the public and to their/his fans.

While the whole #MeToo movement has been able to help victims come forward easier and quicker, it’s also brought out “false victims” and accusations and someone who just gently patted a woman on the back or gave her a full frontal hug because he’s a “touchy” guy, gets accused of sexual harassment. However, by no means, am I downplaying what Arryn has come out and said, and what she has said could be the truth. I don’t know Arryn. I’m new to Bob and The 100, so I don’t know a lot of anything actually. I actually have no idea who this Arryn person is, so I can’t confirm or deny that what she said is true and I don’t know what Bob & Eliza did or didn’t do behind or in front of fans’ faces...

I feel for y’all as a fan of anyone in general. I couldn’t imagine going through this if accusations of anything were made against Aaron or Chris. It also goes to show that celebrities are HUMAN BEINGS, just like all of us. They’re not perfect, as much as we want them to be, and they make awful, terrible mistakes. Not justifying anyone’s behavior by any means, but we shouldn’t be so harsh to condemn someone so quickly before all the facts, details, etc. are given to us.

I know Bob has dealt with mental issues in the past, and while that doesn’t excuse anyone’s behavior, it can’t just be looked over and ignored, about how he treated, or didn’t treat someone/people in the past. Maybe he wasn’t in his right mind, then. Again, IDK... I agree with whoever said that it’s possible for one past bad relationship to turn into a current, loving relationship, but it still doesn’t excuse someone’s behavior, but people’s pasts shouldn’t be hung over their heads for the rest of their lives. We don’t forget the past, but we use it to grow and not to condemn.

I’ll just stop rambling now. Again, my thoughts and prayers are with you, Bob fans, and with Bob & Eliza & Arryn, and anyone else involved in this situation, and hope that everyone will be able to move forward and move on from it...
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