[Seamstress90]

Me too.. After all, the dagger ending up in the wrong hands is bad news for everyone, not just Rumple. And I bet Rumple and Regina being at odds is part of Facilier's plan.

[Betsybelle]

So based on all that has been said on here from what I have seen in the anon asks it looks like Rumple will be facing something or etc in Friday's episode that could lead him down a shady path and by episode end he has to do something to make it right? That goes hand in hand with "complicated" Very astute. Thanks for the astute comment! ������ Anyways I am pretty intrigued to see what it is Rumple goes through in eppy and what realization he comes to in order to right things Asked by Anonymous It’s a bumpy ride. Does whatever it is Rumple does have to do with any possible desperation he feels to reunite with Belle? Adam and Eddy said post-Beauty that he'd be tested throughout the season, and he has, but is this - if not his ultimate test, then his ultimate temptation? They recently said that he would find it hard not to "strike back" at people who are coming after him - is this a test he has to pass, yet again? Sorry for the questions - I understand if they are too spoilery to answer; thank you! Asked by Anonymous It’s three days away. You’ll enjoy the ep. He makes bad choices. He makes better choices. There are consequences to relationships on both counts. It’s a very Rumple story.

Oh wow. I'm a bit nervous, but also excited. Rumple is very likely desperate -and angry............and this is probably is ultimate test/temptation based on Adam/Eddy post-Beauty and recent interviews. The important thing is that he recovers from his bad choices and makes better ones.

Ugh, I'm not ready!

[crazy_diamond]

oh my , Rumple is desperate poor thing, he's not thinking properly and just going on emotion..

Originally Posted by Seamstress90 (View Post) Me too.. After all, the dagger ending up in the wrong hands is bad news for everyone, not just Rumple. And I bet Rumple and Regina being at odds is part of Facilier's plan.

Exactly

[Seamstress90]

Originally Posted by crazy_diamond (View Post) oh my , Rumple is desperate poor thing, he's not thinking properly and just going on emotion..

Yes.. And he usually doesn't make good choices when he's desperate/furious/panicky (who does, though?). But that just makes him human. And he'll get his act together again

[crazy_diamond]

and definitely

[Seamstress90]

Yeah, I can imagine.. Can you blame him, though?

[Betsybelle]

Uh, h oh…I don't blame him at ALL; it’s always awful when someone tries to control him, but now his reunion with Belle is at stake. Here is one of the tests Adam and Eddy spoke about, how it will be hers for him not to strike back at those going after him…

Seamstress:

Yes.. And he usually doesn't make good choices when he's desperate/furious/panicky (who does, though?). But that just makes him human. And he'll get his act together again

Yes! I have more to say on this, but first..... Rumple has had such deep faith all along that he'd find a way back to Belle, but it appears that he'll finally break down to a degree and lose all hope. When Rumple is despairing, he tends to darkness - and people sometimes get hurt in the process. What's important is how he digs himself out of this pit, how he recovers and finds his faith again (that he will reunite with Belle).

Gosh, I hope y’all dig it. I really feel like it’s a journey of his two parallel paths of him. One offers hope, one shows the desperation he has without that hope… It’s honest. I would love it were it me, even with the deep flaws.

Ooh, your description of Rumple with hope/without hope is wonderful - that's exactly what I want to see. I always figured that at some point we'd see a desperate, despairing Rumple; the question is whether he can pull himself out of that dark pit when Belle isn't around - I know he can, but I can't wait to see it play out! Thanks! Asked by Anonymous Just…don’t expect smoothness, and you’ll be fine. Desperation leads to dark inexcusable choices. But…we can always make things right, even when it doesn’t seem so.

Anonymous: How much do you know about the Guardian ? It seems like Rumple/Rumbelle fans had better brace themselves for a difficult episode that we might not particularly care for ? I think … that if you are willing to recognize that Rumple is a complicated man who will make good choices and bad choices it should be a great episode. If Rumple is your favorite woobie who is justified in everything he’s done… it wont. Since I like to think most Rumple/Rumbelle fans aren’t in the woobie brigade I see no reason you shouldn’t care for the episode.

Anonymous: Thanks for your response about the Guardian! I definitely don’t woobify Rumple, but I admit I’m getting slightly nervous about what this means for his overall arc, about whether it could derail everything he’s worked to be post S6 finale. I think that mistakes don’t mean derailment. They’re part of a human journey.

[crazy_diamond]

mostly agree with those comments

and Rumple will be

[Grace52373]

Originally Posted by crazy_diamond (View Post) mostly agree with those comments and Rumple will be

He will be pissed and rightly so!

Why all of a sudden does woobie=justifying ? Rumple can be a woobie and at times you just want to comfort him but I never thought it meant justifying his actions.

I just hope that whatever happens, the crap that went on last week with the hating on Bobby, Rumple, and the fandom doesn't happen again!

[Betsybelle]

For some reason, I’m more nervous than excited about the Guardian; I’m hoping for lots of Belle references, and my gut tells me that we won’t get as much as I want. I hope whatever Rumple does isn’t too bad...I guess it can’t be if he ultimately does reunite with Belle. I just don’t want the only reason he gets to the Afterlife to be because he sacrifices his life ...his being a good man for so long should count for something also

[Seamstress90]

I think the Belle references are guaranteed since it's a Rumple episode, but yeah I'm a bit nervous too. I wonder if Rumple kills Facilier (as he threatened to do in episode 15)? Do we know if Daniel Francis filmed beyond ep 18?

[crazy_diamond]

Grace - I didn't either tbh, but anyways..... and moving on..

I'm just eager for the eppy to be here , we've been waiting ages!!

TBH I don't know whether Daniel has filmed after E18 , I'm going 60/40 that he hasn't, but don't quote me on that

[Betsybelle]

Originally Posted by Seamstress90 (View Post) I think the Belle references are guaranteed since it's a Rumple episode, but yeah I'm a bit nervous too. I wonder if Rumple kills Facilier (as he threatened to do in episode 15)? Do we know if Daniel Francis filmed beyond ep 18?

I don’t think he filmed past 7x20.

THIS makes me nervous..

They have different priorities ..which is fine as long as Rumple doesn’t try to steal the magic potion that Facilier gave her to save Henry or otherwise tries to hinder her efforts. No matter how desperate he is to get the dagger and reunite with Belle, to me that would be unforgivable. I’m afraid he’s going to do that...now I’m truly nervous.

I consider this mostly a Regina spoiler; there’s nothing here about his quest.

Question: What can be teased about what Rumple will face in this week’s Once Upon a Time episode and how will it help him move forward with his quest? –Ashley Ausiello: As you may have heard, Rumple this week gets surprising information about the Dark One’s dagger, and getting his hands back on it will require him to revisit an old rivalry. “There’s an altercation between Rumple and Regina,” Lana Parrilla told Matt Mitovich. “She has something he wants, so they have a little bit of a moment.” Because to cave to Rumple’s demands would put at risk that which Regina treasures most. “She wants to save her son,” Parrilla reminds. “That’s her No. 1 priority.”

[Belleislove]

I think it’s a given Rumple will do something wrong but then make up for it.

I think in the end Rumple will make up for anything he does.

I think if he does kill Facilier there will be those 3 GQ fans saying he did it out of jealousy.

But in all seriousness he will be fine. He’s the DO and hasn’t done anything dark all season. He’s overdue.

I think he’s been holding it together for quite awhile. And people continually use his dead wife against him. Maybe he just snaps.

But considering what acts people recover from on this show I’m not worried. With the end in sight I can pretty much forgive him anything.

[Betsybelle]

Originally Posted by Belleislove (View Post) I think it’s a given Rumple will do something wrong but then make up for it. I think in the end Rumple will make up for anything he does. I think if he does kill Facilier there will be those 3 GQ fans saying he did it out of jealousy. But in all seriousness he will be fine. He’s the DO and hasn’t done anything dark all season. He’s overdue. I think he’s been holding it together for quite awhile. And people continually use his dead wife against him. Maybe he just snaps. But considering what acts people recover from on this show I’m not worried. With the end in sight I can pretty much forgive him anything.

I don't think he's going to kill anyone......not even Facilier. I would get it if he just snapped, but what he does - whatever he does - appears to be planned out. It really depends what it is (even if it's not about Henry).

We don't have long to wait, but I'm glad I'll be busy tomorrow. Well, I'll probably be in my hotel room when it's on, but I never watch live anyway. I'm not even sure I want to go on Tumblr after, lol


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I'm ...........prepared for the worst possible outcome. I'm honestly afraid that I will find what Rumple does to be unforgivable personally, so that even if the show thinks he's worthy of the Afterlife, I won't. I DO hope that his arc isn't going to come down to one act, even a sacrificial one; he deserves better.

Thank you, I'm glad - because I would consider Rumple deliberately trying to prevent Regina from saving Henry tantamount to attempted murder and not something I would file under "bad choice". The Rumbelle/Rumple fandom is on edge now, lol. Thanks again! sgtmac7 answered: Deliberately trying to stop her from saving Henry is…definitely not his perspective. But he makes a huge, huge mistake. What Lana said is accurate. But there’s 3 eps left and a bit more of an adventure/journey ahead and he and Regina…have a way of forgiving each other even when they think they won’t.