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Old 05-24-2017, 02:33 PM
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Empire 3x18 "Toil and Trouble, Part 2" Episode Discussion [05/24/2017]

3x18
"Toil and Trouble, Part 2





ALL-NEW SEASON THREE FINALE OF "EMPIRE" WEDNESDAY, MAY 24, ON FOX


As Lucious gets ready to launch EMPIRE Las Vegas with Giuliana at his side, Cookie pulls together her own team of allies to wreak havoc on the opening. The final five minutes will leave viewers speechless in the second half of the all-new, two-part "Toil and Trouble, Part 2" season finale episode of EMPIRE airing Wednesday, May 24 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX.


Cast: Terrence Howard as Lucious Lyon, Taraji P. Henson as Cookie Lyon, Jussie Smollett as Jamal Lyon, Bryshere 'Yazz' Gray as Hakeem Lyon, Trai Byers as Andre Lyon, Grace Byers as Anika Calhoun, Gabourey Sidibe as Becky, Ta'Rhonda Jones as Porsha and Serayah as Tiana, Bre-Z as Freda Gatz, Xzibit as Shine Johnson and Morocco Omari as Tariq Cousins

Guest Cast: Eva Longoria as Charlotte Frost, Nia Long as Giuliana Green, Rumer Willis as Tory Ash, Demi Moore as Nurse, Taye Diggs as Angelo DuBois, Leslie Uggams as Leah Walker, Andre Royo as Thurston "Thirsty" Rawlings, Eric Lane as Drop, Sierra A. McClain as Nessa, AzMarie Livingston as Chicken, Ezri Walker as Zeah, Juan Antonio as Philip and Tobias Truvillion as D-Major

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Old 05-24-2017, 07:05 PM
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Last episode of the season that the trailer spoiled so much of. So my live posting might not be any of shock.

Previous on Empire of course...
Did we see Barry in the trailer? Or was that someone else....

24k Magic. I love that song.
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The song just makes it feel like an big episode.

Dwight... oh Lucious has his mother Leah locked away since she's out of control.
Wow, Tariq dead body just there.:blank

Jamal and Cookie scene. The best relationship easily on this series of course.
I like Cookie's fashion here.

I love Jamal telling Cookie that she's "Cookie Lyon" making her remember how much power she actually has.

Aww Cookie says she's only coming to see Jamal performance and Jamal saying that is the only reason she should be there.

I love how quickly and mature they work out through their problems. lol

Anika and Hakeem here...
Hakeem is even more upset than Hakeem here....


Leah telling Anika to pick up her things since the divorce will soon be finalized.

Anika and Hakeem... anytime I see them in a scene, I feel more of a mother/son vibe than a pair who has a child Bella together.

Giuliana outfit looks amazing.
Oh the day Tupac got shot is getting brought up. Because of course that was a crazy day in Vegas! If you don't know about it, look it up! It's very publicized.

Charlotte Forst is making sure no drama happens at this Casino...

I agree with Andre here, it doesn't matter what Lucious does to Cookie she'll always forgive him which is why I don't get why she even gets fakingly upset towards him anymore.

Andre really trying to take out Lucious.
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Cookie, Lucious and Hakeem scene...
Lucious telling Hakeem not to ever listen to Leah.

Hakeem wondering why Anika is acting calm......
I was wondering the same thing.

Leah and Anika scene....

Leah reminding Anika to tell the post office that she moved.

Oh Anika is getting so frame.d. She touched the knife that Leah had to kill Tariq... On no.

So, I guess no one on this show actually really pay for their crime???

Charlotte just finished the press release...
The husband doesn't even know his wife was over there recently cheating with the person he's shaking the hands of in Andre.

Look at how easily Charlotte can play the perfect wife....

Cookie so upset by what she's seeing with Lucious and Giuliana
That side eye is real.

Lucious telling Cookie she's invited to the opening of Inferno....

Who's going to sit at the throne with Lucious... thanks to the trailer, we know it's going to be Cookie.
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Becky and Jamal scene, it's been awhile.

Oh Drip-Drop... that's taking me back.

Jamal done with the dudes?? Becky wondering if she has a chance...

Oh a new guy Warren performing... how long before Jamal falls for him?
Warren is so into Jamal here...

Warren sure sung that song well. Aww Jamal over there blushing. lolol

Diana .......

Oh wait...
WAIT Anika was IN ON THIS? I didn't see this coming at all... I didn't expect to feel shocked by I sure am....

I guess Anika was working with the DuBois the whole time... and it makes sense why Anika was never sad much....

Anika really is a crazy nut. lol

Diana making orders now...
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Charlotte and Andre sexing it up again.
What a relationship they have already.....

Cookie rocking it yet again!

Cookie making sure Shine takes care her family.
Cookie is really rocking this outfit.

Lucious about to dump Giuliana....
Giu didn't see this coming...

Yeah I wish I could be more shocked with this scene but the trailer ruined all things.....

Lucious letting Giuliana leave with dignity...
Of course, there was a reason that Lucious suffered through all of this.....
Oh because Vegas had a plan.

Awww. This was such a nice surprise.

When Cookie Met Lucious!
The best song of the season! "Mama"

Wow, it seems Coucious is about to be happy together....

Oh... this episode isn't going to end well for Lucious right?

This is a great scene. Performance from Jamal!
And Jamal did a wonderful job at hiding Lucious' secret!!!
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Jamal and Cookie scene.
Aww Jamal got slapped.

Hakeem want some family love. lol

Lucious performance.....

Man this night is going so well that it's obviously going to end tragic.

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Lucious performing to Cookie.
I love it.

Good songs in the Cookie Met Lucious album.

Aww flashbacks to their younger selves.

OH SHT!!! Even Warren is n on this.
Wow! The DuCios twins. It seems the Lyons should've done more investigation....

Hakeem tells them that Anika found Bella!
And it's gong a part of planned.

I'm shocked by all the DuBois stuff in this episode. I can surely say I didn't expect this...

Leah has Anika right where she wants her......
Anika shouldn't have told her address...
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Anika opens the door to the police... yup no shock there. Leah was playing the game very good...

Oh BARRY??? So, I guess Angelo isn't Barry. Although I put that together 3 episodes ago. lol It took a long time to put it together but I eventually caught on to it. lol

It seems Barry found some happiness.

Aww it seems Barry life went so well for not being with Cookie.
Great that Cookie knows Barry holds no resentment.

Seeing Barry with his wife made Lucious and Cookie want to finally be happy together...
He wants to create better memories...

Oh..... dang... Lucious going to have one depressing ending....


Cookie and Lucious telling their sons that they are stepping down from Empire...
Wow.
This seems like Taraji and Terrence are leaving the show.
Either Taraji and Terrence are leaving the show or Lucious will have a life or death situation.....

Oh... Lucious leaving Andre in charge.
Oh... sht...
This is all what Andre always wanted........

Oh SHT what in the world is Andre going to do... probably he shouldn't try to kill his father anymore.....

This is such an suspenseful episode....

This has been such a great episode but I just

Andre is ready to call this off... yeah, it's way too late... he spent all season planning this....

Three months later.... OH I didn't expect that.
????? I didn't expect this one.

Okay, this episode is still going on....

Demi Moore introduction as Doctor.



Confusing scene... what's up with this nurse.....

Lucious opened his eyes...
He doesn't remember who anyone else....

Nice that Empire and Star will be on the same night this upcoming Fall.



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this finale was amazing I don't have anything else to say but i want season 4
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I liked the episode in general till the very ending. The ending was such a cliché.
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Old 05-28-2017, 09:11 PM
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^ I didn't care for that 3 month skip at all...
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Old 05-29-2017, 04:24 AM
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I think it should have been like a month or 2 to let you know it was serious but I actually loved the ending Lucious finally stopped being an ass then he gets amnesia I love it it makes things interesting anything can happen now he's not fully in control anymore he can actually be manipulated now instead of the other way round I'm excited
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^ I didn't care for that 3 month skip at all...
Uhm, you liked Lucious losing his memory thing?

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I think it should have been like a month or 2 to let you know it was serious but I actually loved the ending Lucious finally stopped being an ass then he gets amnesia I love it it makes things interesting anything can happen now he's not fully in control anymore he can actually be manipulated now instead of the other way round I'm excited

Maybe so but I think it was such a soapy cliché... Well meah for me.
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Uhm, you liked Lucious losing his memory thing?




Maybe so but I think it was such a soapy cliché... Well meah for me.
I didn't like it....
Once it skipped to 3 months and he was at the hospital, it was predictable that it'd be a fake out for his death or a memory loss....

I don't get what was up with the nurse as well.
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yes the nurse was creepy like why couldn't she tell them about his condition that's his family this show is low-key a soap so I'm not surprised with this route
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I didn't like it....
Once it skipped to 3 months and he was at the hospital, it was predictable that it'd be a fake out for his death or a memory loss....

I don't get what was up with the nurse as well.
I am curious abt the nurse but maybe she's trying to NOT help and get everything on her
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