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Old 09-05-2016, 05:43 AM
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Captain America: Civil War (2016) #4: Need to rescue someone? Not sure where he is? Need your gear back? Call Sharon Carter at (555) 555-5555!!

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Cast;
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Brock Rumlow/Crossbones ... Frank Grillo
Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow ... Scarlett Johansson
Bucky Barnes/Winter Soldier ... Sebastian Stan
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Took the words right out of my mouth guys. Exactly how I feel about Tony and part of the MCU fandom. While I don't hate Tony everything we are talking about are reasons why I'm not a fan of his character.

Right everyone of the Avengers has had trauma happen to them. I know they want to give Tony drama, but it's not cute or funny or excusable anymore the way Tony acts. The extreme reactionary choices he makes from one to the other. It only what took him that one visit from that kid's mother, who choose to be at Sokovia, to feel "remorse" not all the destruction he caused by creating Ultron....so yeah I can't believe that his choice was completely out of remorse either. Don't forget he mentioned to Steve that he was doing the accords to get Pepper back. In the end it feels more like it's in service of getting rid his own guilt and getting Pepper back not out of remorse or what's best for the team. I'm sorry either he needs help or he needs off the team. I doubt it will happen though. (sigh)

One of my favorite parts was in Ultron was the team not taking Tony's BS about the black hole he seems to keep bringing up three million times. I'm sure the MCU world wanted it to come off like a coping mechanism with a bit of humor to the audience, but all it came off like was self centered, trying to gain sympathy, and another excuse for his poor choices. I mean there was a reason why he didn't tell anyone else about Ultron. He knew it wouldn't fly with the rest of the team. If I recall and correct me if I'm wrong didn't Tony know about the Accords before Steve and the other met Ross? So same reason he didn't tell them about the Accords before the meeting with Ross. Wash and Repeat.

Another thing people love to simplify Steve's choices. While Bucky made the Accords very personal he wasn't for it from the get go. He was looking out for his team and those they help long before Bucky entered the picture.

Sorry for these long posts/rants, but they've been building up since Civil War came out in theatre. Thank you for the link Miran!
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Old 09-05-2016, 05:49 PM
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Thanks for the new thread!
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Old 09-06-2016, 06:09 PM
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Thank you Mee for the thread and the comment!

Some people have said they've seen the commentary for the film, which could be the case since the digital version is out now. One comment was from Joe is that Tony has a constant battle of his moral center and his narcissism. That fits him to a tee. It's good to know that the people at Marvel acknowledge these character traits in Tony, though I feel like they don't acknowledge it or call Tony out on it in the the Marvel Universe in the right way most of the time.

Also they tease (in a funny way) about Steve becoming Nomad. I'm totally down with it (the Outfit NEEDS a total make over though!!). I mean Thanos coming to earth wouldn't change the feelings Steve has about the Government. It would give Steve/Chris an interesting arc to play with if they decided (Please!) do another Cap trilogy and some more Avenger films. No needs for anyone else become Cap though. It wouldn't make sense in the MCU.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudi...vil_war_bluray
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Old 09-06-2016, 06:25 PM
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Thanks for the link!

It would be totally awesome if he wore that Nomad suit for a bit just as a disguise.
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Old 09-11-2016, 06:43 AM
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Old 09-13-2016, 11:12 AM
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Old 09-13-2016, 07:27 PM
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I need to watch the special features.
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Old 09-14-2016, 06:59 AM
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Thanks for the link

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I've been so busy I haven't gotten a chance to get Civil War yet. I definitely want to get the steelbook if I can get one.
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I always preorder mine on the Best Buy website because I can never be sure it will be at the store.
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Old 09-17-2016, 06:45 PM
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Thanks for posting! I think at one point Cap had a black suit too. And I'm still pissed that Crossbones was wasted on one scene.
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Old 09-18-2016, 09:07 PM
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Thanks for the link

I think had the movie been more Captain America, then say, Avengers 2.5, we probably would have got more with Crossbones.
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