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Old 05-02-2017, 04:17 AM
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I Know Who You Are [3.20] - Episode Discussion [May 2nd, 2017]

[3.20] I KNOW WHO YOU ARE
ϟ EPISODE DISCUSSION ϟ



ϟ VIBE FACES OFF AGAINST KILLER FROST ϟ
Barry (Grant Gustin) and the team meet Tracy Brand (guest star Anne Dudek), a scientist, who may be the key to stopping Savitar. Unfortunately, Killer Frost (Danielle Panabaker) is also after Tracy so Team Flash must battle their old friend, which proves to be particularly difficult for Cisco (Carlos Valdes). Joe (Jesse L. Martin) and Cecile’s (guest star Danielle Nicolet) relationship takes a big turn.
Hanelle Culpepper directed the episode written by Bronwen Clark & Joshua V. Gilbert (#320).
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TFTNT.

It appears this is the episode we find out who Savitar is.
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You're welcome .

I think it is, they can't leave us on a cliffhanger again .
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Loved the episode, especially the end.

Loved the Julian and Cisco scenes!
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- Ouch, Joe. That was an awkward moment with Cecile at the beginning there. At least you finally did the right thing in the end

- Wally’s off on Earth 3… good excuse for him not to be in the episode

- Cisco getting snarky with Julian. Love it.

- Hello Cutthroat Bi*ch Tracy Brand. Can we keep you? You seem like fun. And I kinda ship you with HR now.

- Oooh, nice trick creating a flame with a snap! Good on you, Bear.

- There’s a drink called The Zoom?

- Julian, why are you so surprised Cisco hesitated to attack Killer Frost? She’s still Caitlin to him. You know, his BFF. How is this so hard for you to figure out?

- Awww, Barry ships Joecile.

- Woah… KF just went full Iceman with the ice slide!

- Team Flash: Hey Tracy, a future invention you create can trap an evil speedster, but you need to hurry up and create it now, ‘cuz someone’s gonna die if you don’t. No pressure, tho’

- Why does Joe walk around the house with his holster on?

- <Random>I don’t know who’s been doing Cisco’s hair, but it’s been looking pretty awesome lately</random>

- Apparently, Savitar couldn’t predict Cisco kicking KF’s butt. Guess the future is changing in bits and pieces.

- Okay… okay… so Savitar = Barry was predicted by everyone. I knew it was coming but I refused to believe it because I thought it was a stupid plot twist.

However, after seeing him, it’s quite possible this is some version of Barry whose powers went into overdrive and literally imploded in his face, messing up his head and twisting his memories/feelings somehow.

…because there is no way Barry Allen would ever kill Iris West - no matter how crappy his life became in the future or how many people he lost - unless something actually fried his brain.

Just sayin'

(On a side note: Is this the Speedforce!prophets punishing Barry for not listening to them?)

Next time on The Flash
Iris (being her own hero) to Savitar!Barry (singing):
I have crossed Central City to find you
I know your name
Savitar has stolen the heart from inside you
But this does not define you
This is not who you are
You know who you are


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- Okay… okay… so Savitar = Barry was predicted by everyone. I knew it was coming but I refused to believe it because I thought it was a stupid plot twist.

However, after seeing him, it’s quite possible this is some version of Barry whose powers went into overdrive and literally imploded in his face, messing up his head and twisting his memories/feelings somehow.

…because there is no way Barry Allen would ever kill Iris West - no matter how crappy his life became in the future or how many people he lost - unless something actually fried his brain.

Just sayin'
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:48 AM
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Excellent episode , at one point I thought it was HR who was Savitar . He made a comment to Tracy about if she used her theory to trap savitar , that it would be bad for him. Wasn't till 3/4 of the way thru the ep, before the revel, I knew it had to be future Flash.

Excellent revel and it played out so well . Cisco not wanting to hurt Or possibly kill katlyn /killer frost .. funny after Cisco was blasted out of the rafters , I thought it was future Cisco that blasted frost ..

As a former fan of house great to see Anne Dudek as Tracy in the ep !!

Joe breaking up temp with Cecile , I understood as him protecting her from frost or savitar ...
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Old 05-03-2017, 12:37 PM
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That was probably the most anticlimactic ending I've seen in a long while...

I get that it's a weird version of Barry. I hope they explain what really happened to this guy, & why he's got that Phantom of the Opera thing going on. Really, half of his face has Freddy Krueger skin.

The episode was kinda slow for me...especially the parts about Killer Frost (don't. care. at. all.), Cisco & Julian, & dragging out the reveal till the very end.

Parts that I liked: Joecile (can't believe he took advice from Barry & he finally took off that ring), Cisco's hair, that thing that Barry did w/the lightning (they actually let him be smart for a change! Imagine that!!), & I actually like Tracy (HR is such a flirt).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this whole storyline supposed to be about saving Iris' life? If it is, then where is she? She hardly shows up in eps anymore (I know last week was supposed to be about life w/out her), but c'mon!!! When are we really gonna find out how she actually feels about all of this! And there has been little to no interaction between WA lately; what's up with that?
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Saw this gifset on Tumblr. No wonder thawne hated barry



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Old 05-03-2017, 01:09 PM
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The highlight of this episode for me was Killer Frost vs. Flash/Vibe fight scenes.

Other than I am not too happy of the predictability of who Savitar is. That outcome was no shock. no surprise. Just a dud. At least for me it was.

I don't sound like a hater of the show because I liked Season 1 and 2 but this season hasn't been wowing me at all.
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They better have a damn good explanation for this.
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Old 05-04-2017, 05:57 AM
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Another great episode for The Flash. I loved it. Killer frost is awesome and powerful. I especially liked seeing all Cisco's inner struggles. The Savitar reveal was insane. I never saw it coming.
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I'm not happy with the reveal. Obvious and at the same time unbelievable. I'm tired of the vendettas and secret identity arcs ever year. It was amazing with Wells/RF, ok with Zoom/Jay, but now it's just overkill. We need better villains.
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I'm not happy with the reveal. Obvious and at the same time unbelievable. I'm tired of the vendettas and secret identity arcs ever year. It was amazing with Wells/RF, ok with Zoom/Jay, but now it's just overkill. We need better villains.


This is the best villain possible . . . one's own doppleganger. One's own self. Besides, ever since Flashpoint, I've been waiting for the ball to drop for Barry. And I'm glad that the producers were willing to show how low he can sink. Judging from what I have recently seen on "Arrow", they're apparently not willing to go that far with Oliver, despite his reveal about himself.
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