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Old 04-17-2018, 12:29 PM
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Lose Yourself [4.18] - Episode Discussion [April 17th, 2018]

[4.18] LOSE YOURSELF
ϟ EPISODE DISCUSSION ϟ



ϟ RALPH CONSIDERS CROSSING A LINE TO DEFEAT THE THINKER ϟ
When Barry (Grant Gustin) and Team Flash find a way to enter The Thinker’s lair, Ralph (guest star Hartley Sawyer) considers crossing a dangerous line to defeat DeVoe. Meanwhile, Joe (Jesse L. Martin) is concerned by Harry’s (Tom Cavanagh) recent behavior.
Hanelle Culpepper directed the episode written by Jonathan Butler & Gabriel Garza (#418).
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Old 04-17-2018, 08:36 PM
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- Harry created a sonic screwdriver scepter

- So thinking cap = drug addiction. Glad that Joe is getting all “Detective West” on Harry.

- Harry about his thinking cap: MY PRECIOUSSSSSSS…. THAT NASTY DETECTIVESSSSS STOOOOOOOLE IT!

- It’s dinosaur week on the CW. First Supergirl, now The Flash

- Iris and her big-ass gun! Love it. Look at her sacrifice herself for the greater good.

- So now that Devoe has Ralph’s body, we get OG!Devoe back.

On a side note: Ralph was supposed to have died in the original particle accelerator explosion, as per Eo-Wells in Season 1.

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Old 04-17-2018, 08:49 PM
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Best part of the episode.

Glad Ralph's dead. Hope he stays that way.

18 episodes later...what does Devoe want?
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Old 04-17-2018, 09:57 PM
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Okay . . . now that Devoe has the powers of all of the bus metas, what does he plan to do? And why was it so important to him to frame Barry and put him in prison?
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Old 04-17-2018, 11:06 PM
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It's sad that now Ralph and Killer Frost are gone

Anyway, probably the best episode of the serie so far
Iris vs Marlize. Yes!! (gotta give credit to Joe taking on the samurai)
Harry screwing up... (although everyone kinda screwed up in this episode)

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Okay . . . now that Devoe has the powers of all of the bus metas, what does he plan to do? And why was it so important to him to frame Barry and put him in prison?
To get Black Bison, Kilg%re, Dwarfstar and Hazzard out of the meta prison
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Old 04-18-2018, 01:25 AM
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Going to miss Ralph on the show.

I was hoping that we would see him meet his wife Sue (from the comics) in future
episodes.
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Old 04-20-2018, 10:37 AM
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Finally saw the ep the other day (couldn't watch all of it, bc my cable kept cutting out).

Ralph is FINALLY GONE!!! That was a LONG time coming, but it finally happened. And that story he told Barry Was that supposed to get us to miss him? It didn't work on me.

The rest of the story was OK; it wasn't the best, & it wasn't the worst (that was last week). Killer Frost is supposedly gone & now Harry's brain seems to be fried What good are they gonna be when they have to face DeVoe? Speaking of which, what exactly is this "enlightenment"? And why do the writers think we care what it is at this late date?

Iris kicking Marlize's butt, FTW! And Joe taking down that samaroid!

I know that there were some in the fandom who were upset about the lone WA scene at the end. While it would've been nice for WA to have a quiet, bonding moment at the end, I realize that some ppl need space when they grieve. While, IMHO, Ralph wasn't really worth grieving, I'm sure Barry felt bad bc they only saved two of the bus metas, & had become friends w/one of them. He probably feels like a failure. I'm sure he & Iris had a long talk when he got back to the loft.

Here's hoping that the writers can redeem themselves w/the last 5 eps.
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Ralph is FINALLY GONE!!! That was a LONG time coming, but it finally happened. And that story he told Barry Was that supposed to get us to miss him? It didn't work on me.


I understand Barry needing to grieve. It's how he is but since I was celebrating and Ralph had been a douche who ruined most of the season not this great "hero" they are pretending he is. I was rolling my eyes.

Overall the episode was fine.

Iris and Marlize fighting was a treat!!!! And seeing the real Clifford felt good. He should have killed Ralph a long time ago.
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Old 04-20-2018, 11:14 PM
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You guys .

I don't think it's the last time we've seen Ralph.
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Old 04-21-2018, 04:04 AM
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Sadly, I think it’s true. But I hope he won’t return for S5.
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Old 04-22-2018, 11:35 AM
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I didn't like Ralph very much either, but celebrating his demise seems a little bit harsh lol

I don't care that much about his death, but more about what it means for the team now that they lost all the metas they were trying to save (and they were the reason some of them got caught)

I assumed the reason DeVoe was saving him for last was because Ralph's body, being able to do what it did, was either resistant or immune to DeVoe's disease, which I think was confirmed in the episode...

By the way, where's the Weeper? DeVoe already got to him but whether or not he took his power is unknown, right? There's got to be a reason why Marlize doens't know about it... and where the heck is the mistery girl?
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I didn't like Ralph very much either, but celebrating his demise seems a little bit harsh lol


...And I feel like celebrating.
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...And I feel like celebrating.
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I think Marlize doesn't know about the Weeper because Clifford is using his tears to drug and control her.
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Sadly, I think it’s true. But I hope he won’t return for S5.
I think it's up to the writers. His contract does have an option for him to come back as a regular next season.
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