Fan Forum
Remember Me?
Register

  Request a Forum   |     View New Forums

 
 
Forum Affiliates Tags Thread Tools
Old 04-10-2018, 10:53 AM
  #1
Fan Forum Star

 
Hero of Time's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 131,467
Null And Annoyed [4.17] - Episode Discussion [April 10th, 2018]

[4.17] NULL AND ANNOYED
ϟ EPISODE DISCUSSION ϟ



ϟ DANNY TREJO RETURNS AS BREACHER; KEVIN SMITH DIRECTS ϟ
Barry (Grant Gustin) and Ralph (guest star Hartley Sawyer) take different approaches to finding the remaining bus metas before DeVoe gets to them. However, Ralph’s cavalier attitude frustrates Barry and the two clash over what it means to be a hero. Meanwhile, Breacher (guest star Danny Trejo) returns to ask Cisco (Carlos Valdes) for a favor.
Kevin Smith directed the episode written by Lauren Certo & Kristen Kim (#417).
ϟ PROMO ϟ




ϟ REMINDERS ϟ
- Be respectful. Not everyone is going to agree with you at all times. It’s perfectly fine to disagree with someone as long as it is done respectfully.

- No character/actor bashing. You can express your opinions on a certain character or performance, but please keep in mind that these are real people who are trying to do the best with what they are given, so please keep things civil.

- Links to illegal links to downloads or live streams are not allowed here. You can discuss and share these links only through PM's.

- With the exception of promos and episode stills, everything else is considered a spoiler before the episode airs.

- HAVE FUN watching and discussing the episode!

Hero of Time is offline  
Old 04-10-2018, 01:12 PM
  #2
Fan Forum Legend

 
jediwands's Avatar

Moderator of ...
Everwood
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 304,023
Finally, it's back! Thanks for the new thread!
jediwands is offline  
Old 04-10-2018, 06:38 PM
  #3
Total Fan

 
Elektra's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,628
Flash Thoughts:

- Oh look, Ralph is being annoying again.

- Well, hello Jay and Silent Bob! Long time no see!

- Barry is 1000000% done with Ralph right now. Join the club, Barry…

- It would have been funny if they had Tom Ellis playing “Crucifer”

- Someone needs to save Marlize. Please?

- Ralph: I have Daddy issues
Me: Um…. Barry’s mother was murdered and his dad was thrown in jail for his entire childhood. You don’t have an excuse, dude.

- Cisco just got a nice job offer. I doubt he’s going to take it, though. This show seems intent on keeping him in the lab.

- Oh dear… looks like Harry is getting his Eobard on --- and perhaps that's why Not!Dawn gave him such a dirty look last time we saw her.
__________________
"I have been a voice with no body. A body, but not human. And now a memory made real. Who knows what I might be next!”
- Vision (Wandavision)

Last edited by Elektra; 04-10-2018 at 07:11 PM
Elektra is offline  
Old 04-11-2018, 02:30 AM
  #4
Master Fan

 
SuitUp's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 24,800
Marlize's scenes were the only interesting part of the episode.
__________________
Genius.
Billionaire.
Playboy.
Philanthropist.

You can take away my house, all my tricks and toys, but one thing you can't take away – I am IRON MAN.
SuitUp is offline  
Old 04-11-2018, 09:33 AM
  #5
Part-Time Fan
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 335
So, we had to wait FOUR weeks for this flop of an episode?

I can't believe that they (TPTB) let the writers get away w/this crud. WHY is Ralph always front & center? WHY are they trying to get ppl to like this very UNlikeable character? WHEN will this character DIE?

The show is lacking heavily in both its heart & its soul. Isn't it weird that everytime a Ralph-centric episode appears, those two things "magically" disappear?

When you write WA OOC to prop up a useless character; when the only time Joe is in a ep that's Ralph-centric, he's always "Ralph in disguise"; when Cisco (& even Caitlin who I really don't like) are sidelined in favor of a d-bag, I start to wonder why this is all being allowed. I had heard that some of the new writers are from Nickelodeon, & they need to go back there, ASAP (Certo & Kim, in particular need to go, yesterday ).I know the show is "family-friendly" (which I think is hurting the show; you can be mature w/out going otp. Trying to appeal to the "kiddies" isn't working. There are NO kids that star in this show), but resorting to toilet humor brings the show down to an all time low. And why is a grown man (at least physically) childish in his "joking"? If this is to appeal to the "kiddies", what message are they sending?

Breacher & Cisco were the only highlight for me. Marlize finding out the truth about DeVoe, even though it was erased at the end, would've been interesting, but...at this point, just be done w/them, already.

And I don't give a rat's butt about Ralph's past. I don't empathize w/him whatsoever. It's too little, too late. He was unlikeable from jump, so if he does die I won't blink an eye. He. Needs. To. Go. The Flash has turned into The Elongated Man. The show has suffered enough. Put him & us out of our misery.
Popcorn71 is offline  
Old 04-11-2018, 11:28 AM
  #6
Supreme Fan

 
FireQueen's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 9,626
Ralph's sob story doesn't work. It explains his bad attempts at humor but not the sexist behavior. His dad walked out on his mom, he was close to her but grew up to be a misogynist. Makes sense
__________________
Icon
Serena
FireQueen is offline  
Old 04-11-2018, 11:39 AM
  #7
Master Fan

 
SuitUp's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 24,800
From your keyboard to the showrunners ears.

I'm beyond tired. I second everything you said Popcorn71.

I forwarded Ralph's "when I was 10 year old..." sob story. Boohoo loads of people don't have Dads. Doesn't equal a**hole.
__________________
Genius.
Billionaire.
Playboy.
Philanthropist.

You can take away my house, all my tricks and toys, but one thing you can't take away – I am IRON MAN.
SuitUp is offline  
Old 04-11-2018, 12:08 PM
  #8
Part-Time Fan
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 335
Thanks, SuitUP!

I sincerely hope that the next eps will redeem this show in a big way.

And I agree w/you FireQueen; what kind of nonsense?!
Popcorn71 is offline  
Old 04-11-2018, 12:42 PM
  #9
Master Fan

 
SuitUp's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 24,800


Fingers and toes crossed. These last 7 episodes better vary between good and amazing.
__________________
Genius.
Billionaire.
Playboy.
Philanthropist.

You can take away my house, all my tricks and toys, but one thing you can't take away – I am IRON MAN.
SuitUp is offline  
Old 04-11-2018, 09:14 PM
  #10
Fan Forum Star

 
Hero of Time's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 131,467
The ratings are making me sad, we need a shake up, come on.
__________________
I have wings, why would I go low? 🐝
Preiouvs Username: Scarlet Speedster
Hero of Time is offline  
Old 04-12-2018, 07:14 AM
  #11
Loyal Fan
 
IrishWristWatch's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,363
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elektra (View Post)
Someone needs to save Marlize. Please?
So Marlize's drug has worn off and she's figured out that she is truly scared of DeVoe now and has left clues for herself. But DeVoe keeps catching her and erasing her memories cuz he still needs her to survive. i wonder if whats left of his love for her will result in his demise (kind of like Doc Oc sacrificing himself to destroy the monster he had become) or perhaps she will figure out (again) and somehow get to Barry and the gang so they can defeat him?



Quote:
- Cisco just got a nice job offer. I doubt he’s going to take it, though. This show seems intent on keeping him in the lab.
I think so too

Quote:
- Oh dear… looks like Harry is getting his Eobard on --- and perhaps that's why Not!Dawn gave him such a dirty look last time we saw her.
Oh No!!! Did the increased intellectual powers seduce Harry to the dark side? Is he actually not Harry but Eobard Thawne in disguise as Harry AGAIN!!!!???? Way to play with their minds," Whoever-you-are-Harry"!!!!! But I'm hoping it just looks like Harry is up to something bad but he's really not!!! Can't wait to see what happens next!
IrishWristWatch is offline  
Old 04-12-2018, 12:22 PM
  #12
Master Fan

 
SuitUp's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 24,800
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarlet Speedster (View Post)
The ratings are making me sad, we need a shake up, come on.
It's a shame. The hiatus and lack of promo were a factor but their villian (body switching) took away from the arc, the week-to-week "bus meta" that aren't compelling and to add insult to injury...Ralph. Who learns the same lesson. Every episode.

They have to step up their writing and imaginations to gain any traction back.

Fingers and toes crossed.
__________________
Genius.
Billionaire.
Playboy.
Philanthropist.

You can take away my house, all my tricks and toys, but one thing you can't take away – I am IRON MAN.
SuitUp is offline  
Old 04-13-2018, 10:01 PM
  #13
Fan Forum Star

 
Hero of Time's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 131,467
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuitUp (View Post)
It's a shame. The hiatus and lack of promo were a factor but their villian (body switching) took away from the arc, the week-to-week "bus meta" that aren't compelling and to add insult to injury...Ralph. Who learns the same lesson. Every episode.

They have to step up their writing and imaginations to gain any traction back.

Fingers and toes crossed.
Well said! I think the show would benefit a lot from new writers, new sets and new characters as well.
__________________
I have wings, why would I go low? 🐝
Preiouvs Username: Scarlet Speedster
Hero of Time is offline  
Old 10-12-2018, 04:47 PM
  #14
Fan Forum Legend

 
crash landing's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 722,225
Glad seeing Breacher considering the actor being a well known Poor Cisco related to Cynthia's dad having just lost his powers from old age - Cisco being afraid to tell him

Sad to hear about Cynthia not being in contact with Cisco I love them so much

HAHA Kevin Smith as a guest Star? OMFG I was right - that's absolutely hilarious

This is one of Smith's directed? I prefer his break my heart type episodes not regular|funny episodes

Oh Clifford been poisioning his wife she's finding out - wonder if she'll turn Team Flash

I'll finish the episode tomorrow cause got some posting to do and watching has me distracted
__________________
Sarah
Had to make decision that needed to focus on my financial/mental conditions.
No idea if will return but once and while may come check PM's

Last edited by crash landing; 10-12-2018 at 05:01 PM
crash landing is offline  
Fan Forum  |  Contact Us  |  Fan Forum on Twitter  |  Fan Forum on Facebook  |  Archive  |  Top

Powered by vBulletin, Copyright © 2000-2024.

Copyright © 1998-2024, Fan Forum.