Lauren Helen Graham

SLAT92

Thanks for opening

I'm curious to see how Red and Liz act towards each other.

Lauren Helen Graham

I'm so curious as well and I can't wait to see the episode. Good thing that my boss allowed me to start work later tomorrow so I can watch my show I'm so happy they know how crazy I am

Miranda

Thanks for starting this Kris. Can't wait to see it!

Lauren Helen Graham

Okay, guys... Right now I'm wondering why I have been waiting for this episode at all. It's somehow exactly what I feared would happen and I'm so disappointed, I have no words. And we're back to season 3B.

I don't even know what I liked about the episode besides of Red maybe, yeah, I'll always love him and Samar being that bitch towards Liz and yes, girl, she hates you. Who wouldn't... Oh yes, let me start with the rest of the team here.

Man, there are opinions about the episode and the whole show on Tumblr I would love to bring over here but I guess it wouldn't be appropriated.

Okay, so lets start with the teams reactions on Liz being back... Ressler, he lost every respect I had for him. Sorry to be that harsh but honestly even being complimenting Tom now, I can't watch this anymore. And him against rallying against Red. Yeah, thank you for that. I'm done.

Aram, yeah, right, hugging her for being back. I don't care how awkward it is but yeah, hugging her... Not necessary at all. At least you told her how pissed you really are and honestly, Liz feels offended???? Done with that, too!
And on a side note, Aram has a woman coming over... Was it him that got her there, is she a prostitude? I'm really kind of unsure about that and it destroyed such a great Samar/Aram moment.

Cooper, yeah, nothing at all on Liz.

Samar, you rock!!!! She's all my respect.

And Red for being cold at the beginning at the cemetery but the rest, I don't know. He seemed to be too nice to her if you ask me.
On a side note, nice place to meet for the first time I loved that...

Liz, I have no words. It's unbelievable how done I'm with her character. I'm at a point again where I thought her being dead okay.

Tom, nothing at all. The only thing I liked was Red handing him off to the enemy and somehow liking the thought that he'd end up being casualties

Liz/Tom... Done.

Red and Katarina backstory. So she was assigned to him. It's so great to know now and I love that Katarina was in love with him as well. He wasn't the bad guy there. And I'm so thankful for that because after the first few pieces we heard about their backstory it really seemed he'd be the bad guy, trying to force her to get away from Constantin... But it was meant to be for her own safety because I'm sure he might have loved her as well and she did love him. She fell in love with her target. (on a side note: I don't like the idea of it being similar to Tom and Liz )

Alexander Kirk and his disease. So funny, I know this kind of disease because the husband of my big boss has this disease in his family and he's lucky to not have it but his brother...

Miranda

I like this episode. I expected more of it but I can't say that I am disappointed.

Aram! I love this guy more and more every time. I loved what he said to Liz about everybody needing time and Samar hating Liz for now. Yes girl, she definitly hates you and can you blame her?! I did expect him to hug Liz. That is just who Aram is. And at least he told her that he hates what she did. And he had a woman over! This is the new character I posted about in the news thread a while ago. So Elise is Aram's girlfriend. If we can call her that already. I was so excited when I saw that but I do agree with you Kris that she did ruin such an amazing moment between Aram and Samar! I don't think she is a prostitute. Maybe he met her at a bar?

Aram and Samar were so cute this episode! I loved that Samar was reaching out to Aram about her transfer. I understand why she wants a transfer but I really hope she is not going to go through with it even though she sent that email. I don't want her to leave. I totally understood her reaction towards Liz and tbh I thought she was going to go off on Liz but she didn't. Maybe we will see that in the future.

I loved that Red and Liz's first meeting was at her grave! Point for Red! He was cold to her at first and she totally deserved that but afterwards I thought he was kind of mild on her. But I love that he wants to find Agnes on his own. Let her feel what she did to you!

I loved seeing Katarina again and I love how they incorporated the flashbacks. So amazing! So the affair between Kat and Red was real. So that's something that Kirk hasn't lied about. I never expected Katarina to be implanted in Red's life. Implanted by who? Kirk? The KGB?

And how could Liz read her mother's journal when it was all in Russian? She apparently can still read Russian?

Red called Kirk Constantin, does that mean he really is Liz's father? He did say to Liz, the woman he believes to be his long lost daughter. I get so confused. So do you guys think Kirk will use Agnes to save his life?

So we still don't know who dragged Mr. Kaplan through the woods. Could it be somebody who is working for Red or a random stranger that was walking his dog in those woods? I hope we get some answers on that next week!

girl under the floor

It's funny to see both of yours reactions.

First a big rant pointing out all the things wrong then the other saying what she loved about it


I just thought it was an okay episode

I never liked Ressler, but this complete 180 he did now towards Liz. Not a fan

See, as a mother, I could not bear to be apart from my child and / or not being informed about what was going to happen. So I actually thought Red was being wildly unfair in saying that Liz had to back off and he would take care of it on his own. Agnes is her daughter! Mother's don't back off Nor should they be told to.

The only two I really liked this episode were Aram and Tom.
I totally expected Aram to hug Liz. Fits his character as well Also him telling Liz he hates what she'd one He's glad to have her back but still honest about how she hurt him/them. Good for him.

And I like seeing Tom in situations like that Quite prefer him being in the action rather than being a dad.
The moments between Liz & Tom too, slipping that card around, the two of them, loved it

I was wondering at first why they didn't just show us Kaplan's face. Also, the fact that we don't know who saved her, "must" mean it's at least a face we know???
I'm in the camp off: Red doesn't miss, so he kept her alive on purpose. Maybe wanted her to be injured so badly that she'd die soon. I don't know why. But if the show will later on state that it was just a miss from Red I'll be upset.

Fangirl49

I never wanted Aram and Samar to get together, so why am I so disappointed now? I really loved Samar on this one. I think Aram hugging Liz through her off track like she didn't think he was upset. He certainly through her off balance when he told her how he felt

. I will have to rewatch Ressler with tom and Liz again. I left the episode thinking that he really was angry but forcing down his emotions

I loved the scene in the cemetery. Point for Red. But I need him and all of them to let Liz know how they feel. I have decided that for Red at least he is tamping down his feelings until he finds Agnes. Then I think he is out of there. I don't need him back to normal like nothing happened.

I thought him very cold in the ending scene as well when he told her why Kirk really wanted her.

I did love the journal scenes. Lotte is beautiful and those scenes were great. I can't believe how Liz acted to Red. So you had an affair with my mother and you were pushing her to leave him. Here we go with the blame thing again. That had me thinking that Kirk wrote the journal himself. I do not believe Red would ever push a woman to leave. I think, just like with Josephine, he would get you out but i don't think he would beg or push. At least not how Liz meant it

So Katarina was assigned to seduce And betray Red. He has been through so much. She fell in love with him. I wonder if he loved her back. He would have had his family then and I remember his joy at seeing them for Christmas. I still have my doubts about who Kirk is. I'm about tired of the plot being everyone Red thinks is dead is really still alive. It's like an episode of the walking dead.

Yeah Paula what you just said about Liz being a mother. I agree and I think that's why Red told her about Miles and I think that's why he is dealing with her now. For the sake of Agnes

Miranda

Yeah Paula, Kris and I totally disagree on this one.

I thought it was a little cold of Red to tell Liz that he would handle finding Agnes on his own. I know what he meant by it and of course, he is probably the one only that can find Agnes but Liz is her mother. It's logic that she wants to help find her. Red just doesn't want her help because he is hurt by her. Which is understandable.

I really hope once they find Agnes, Red will tell her how she made him feel, how everybody felt when she faked her death. I think Aram did a pretty good job already by telling her that everybody needs time. She can't just expect everbody to forgive her like that. It doesn't work like that.

Do you guys think we will see Aram's date Elise some more or just this once? I wonder if Samar and Aram are going to have a talk about it when they are at the post office.

You have a point there Paula, that the person that Kaplan "saved" Kaplan must be somebody we know. Otherwise they might have shown us his or her face. I am guessing it's a man but we obviously don't know for sure.

The only reason I could think off is why Red missed, is what you said Paula, to injure her so badly and that he wanted to make her suffer by dying a slow and painful death..

Fangirl49

I thought it interesting when Kirk told Red he had always been tenacious. It shows a long standing relationship. I just don't think Kirk is Lizs dad.

Also I know Liz has a strong desperation to find her child. But the fact that she would try to ask Red to help at the cemetery just struck me in a bad way. I mean if she knows nothing else, she knows Red will not stop until he either has Agnes or he is dead. There was no need for her to ask. I guess she couldn't help herself.

Lauren Helen Graham

Hey there, I'm back... And yes, my opinion hasn't changed.

Don't get me wrong, I as well understand how desperate Liz might be at the moment to find her child. It's her baby we are talking about and it must be the most horrible thing somebody can ever experience. But honestly, I just don't care anymore. She's hurt all these guys so badly, she's hurt me badly, I can't forgive her that and that she never manages to apologize to some people there (aka Red) and tries to justify it over and over again. She's like Mr. Kaplan and I simply don't care anymore. If you ask me she could sit in a dark room, all alone and just cry and I would be happy with that. Who does she think she is???? It's unbelievable and I can't stand her anymore. I don't care how she might feel... Maybe she gets a grasp of what the others were going through when she 'died'. And her child still is alive.
I'm sorry for being so frustrated but that's all I just feel.

And yes, the moment when she (Liz) told Red that she has her mother's journal and the stuff about him trying to force her mother to leave Kirk and so on... She blamed him again. She doesn't get what an ass she is, really. And I don't care if Red was cold there telling her about her family and what Kirk really wants. It's the right way to handle the situation. I want Red really badly to find Agnes and then I want him to leave Liz completely! She has no right of him in her life, she doesn't deserve him in her life, actually, she doesn't deserve any of them in her life.

About Mr. Kaplan and the person that found her there, I think I might know who it is and if it is the character I think it is then it's a new one.

Fangirl49

She didn't seem sorry at all. I think that's what got me the most. Even when Aram said what he did she seemed shocked not sorry. I'm glad Red was cold but I needed him to be colder than that. I didn't want him to even give Liz the name of the blacklister. And then the FBI screws it up again.

Lauren Helen Graham

Yes, I already hated the fact that Red wanted to meet with her... Okay, I think he wanted to meet with her in the first place because of the place they met at. But still, I didn't want him to reach out but just to go after Agnes himself. I wanted her to be the one to have to crawl back.

And still I don't understand Ressler. First of all going all 'Who cares if I lose my job and do something that's not within the law' on Liz and Tom (btw, what did Tom do there. I so want him gone! He doesn't belong in the post office and he never did!)

Yes, Marilyn, she didn't feel sorry at all, there was not one sign of remorse or anything... Really nothing. How can a person be that way? How can another human being that has feelings, too, be like that to all the other people in her life? I don't get that.

blueflower

I was a little disapointed with this episode, Liz is back how she was before, it's like her faking death never happen, no respect towards team or Red. Now we know that Katarina was assigned to him and she suppost to betray him, but i am thinking, who Katarina was working for?. Kirk needs Liz or Agnes only for making him live longer. Mr Kaplan, i want to see who rescue her, maybe we will have new character. I was surprise with Aram and his new lady, i didn't expect that. Samar i think i like her more now.

Fangirl49

Totally agree Aga.

At the cemetery scene I wish Red had walked away when he told Liz no I don't.