Fangirl49

I can relate. I hated the ending of S5 with Liz.

Lauren Helen Graham

Boah, it made me soooo mad again when I watched it... I even realized that I had zoomed out when it aired the first time because I knew it and was so pissed and the worst, there is Tom out of the blue even if he's just in her imagination but I could have puked, really.

Fangirl49

Her talking with ghost tom like they planned the whole thing together made me sick.

She should have been mad st him for dragging her into this.

Lauren Helen Graham

I hated that she made it look like she did all of it just for Tom. That was the worst for me. She should have done it to get answers, for her daughter, to find piece and get her life with her child back but no, it was all for Tom

Fangirl49

Me too. And she couldn't see Reds pov. That it was his businesss. That Kaplan should not have brought tom into it. And all Red was trying to do was protect them (including Tom) and keep his secret.

Miranda

Exactly what you said Kris! I guess she will never get it.

Lauren Helen Graham

She won't... All her live always rotated around Tom and since he is gone, she could have died with him for God's sake. It would have been better for all of us.

Miranda

I don't know if it would have. It would have totally changed the dynamics of the show. And we wouldn't know if it would have been for the better or for worse.

Fangirl49

I'm convinced it would be better.

Lauren Helen Graham

Same here since I didn't enjoy one bit of what we got afterwards.

Fangirl49

That's sad to say.

Miranda

I don't know if it would have been better. There are also two sides to it. If she would have die it could have been better or maybe it would have even been worse. We will never know.

Fangirl49

I hope the resolution will help me feel better about Liz. Right now I don't see it going that way.

Alfaman

Just like to get some feedback.

As I’ve said before I believe as S5 ended at Dom’s house with the bones it means Dom knows everything. I believe Dom will be a much bigger part in S6 which would be wonderful as there would be another actor of Spader’s level in the show.

From rewatching I have many times asked myself could Dom actually be Red’s Dad?

This could explain how he knew where the buried care package is, his rapport with Red is very Father/Son where he is angry with Red but still confides with him when Liz stumbled across his cottage.

If Red had a brother who was killed the night of the fire who was Liz’s Father it would explain his attachment to Liz and then to Agnes.

The whole fact Red retreaded to him with the bones says a lot.

Thoughts?

On another note what was in the box Red gave Denebe when Dembe was sick in bed. He told him to open it when they were finished in crime together and would be just friends (cohorts)?

What has happened though is Liz thinks everyone is against her when Red, Dom, Dembe all only want to help her.

Fangirl49

They never told us what was in the box. I think if Red died in the series finale, Dembe will open the box. So I can deal with never knowing.

Yes I love Doms character. He is on James level and they really click.

I did wonder, when I first saw him if he was Reds father. That would make Red and Katarina related though. And I don't believe that. As I don't also believe Red is Katarina.

Their interaction does seem to indicate a strong connection. So how could they know each other. It's not likely that Katarina would take Red or anyone to meet her dad

Their connection has to be intelligence related some kind of way.