Lauren Helen Graham

Miranda

Thanks for starting this Kris!

I have to work tomorrow so I am going to watch the episode tomorrow night.

Lauren Helen Graham

I won't watch it before tomorrow night either But I really can't wait.

Fangirl49

Arrrrgh, is everyone going to be mad at Red? I can't figure out how you guys will feel.

Honestly, I can see Liz being angry that he took the witness, but as usual I am on Red's side. He told Liz the law could not deal with this. He is going to take care of Garvey, I am convinced of that. And if he didn't take the witness, that person would be dead. Garvey would have killed him.

I told you guys the therapist was evil, although serial killer was not on my radar. But I pegged that one early in the ep. Did not suspect she had an accomplice. Kudos!!! My tv cut out so please tell me did Liz kill the sand man? What happened when she had the sand man? I don't know what happened in between that and her conversation with Aram.

You know what really bothers me about Red taking the witness? Aram. I am so afraid the writers want to destroy this relationship too. I love them together, and I know Aram is going to be so upset to learn Red took the witness. I hope the writers don't do this everyone hates Red thing again. Please NONONONO.

I loved the Red and Garvey scenes so powerful. Red is so going to kill him. I loved how they tricked him at the hotel and then Red and Dembe got the drop on him.

So Garvey says that Red does not know who he is...So who is he. Why hasn't he used the bones? What truth does he want? He knows the identity of the bones but he wants something else. What is it?

How did I forget to mention Aram confronting Garvey. I love him. He was timid and frightened and then he found his courage. I love Aram. He is perfect.

ChakotaysLover

I totally CALLED That therapist being ten kinds of shady!!!

OMG!! Aram confronting Garvey stressed me out!! I was like, "Oh no! Aram get out of there!"

As for Aram being mad when he finds out Red took the witness.... Aram isn't one to hold grudges. We know this.

Liz being mad is EXACTLY why Red never tells her anything of importance regarding one of his plans. Cause she thinks she knows better and then goes off the rails, screwing up his carefully laid scheme.

That kid and his grandma are probably out of the country, living in the lap of luxury, so far away that Garvey can't get his grubby little hands on them.

Lauren Helen Graham

Boah, guys... I think I really need to process this episode. I'm shocked in so many ways

Okay, for me, there are no excuses for what Red did this time... I can't imagine what these bones could pose that he would go to such a length to get them back. He betrayed Liz there right away and yes, this was the first time he really lied. He LIED! They almost finished to destroy this relationship forever for me.

Marilyn, about the serial killer and Liz. The FBI appeared before Liz could kill that guy and the therapist managed to run, Liz followed her and found her and let her go... Afterwards she was cleared by her and the therapist now is Liz first person in her creating her own Red-like empire. She told her that Red had people he could turn to and Liz hopes that the therapist is that for her...
Besides, the therapist said that Red told her that Liz wasn't like him but Liz told her that she for sure knows that he was wrong.

I still think that Garvey is the one that will be the big bad and that he is not working for somebody else. This episode proved it again for me.

I hate that Aram is the one involved in all of it... I think this will shatter his relationship to Red because lets be honest, it will come out.

Miranda

OMG this episode was amazing! But shocking as well!

I can't believe what Red did! He actually really lied to Liz for the very first time. Why?! I do not get it. I understand that he wants to get the bones back and that he doesn't want Liz to know about them but how can he do this to her? He straight up lied to her so it makes him better. I am shocked but for the first time I am a bit angry with Red that he did this! I am sure that Liz is going to find out that he is behind the witness being gone and I have a feeling that in the end she is going to find out that he met with Garvey..

I wonder why Red doesn't want to know who Garvey is! Hell, I want to know! I am sooo curious!

Aram and Garvey. I was nervous in the beginning. I was scared that Aram was going to say something that would set Garvey off. They way he told Garvey to back off was awesome!

The therapist! Damn, I was so shocked when she was in that cabin! And Liz let her go.. damn girl, you do start to look more and more like your father every day. I never suspected that the therapist couldn't be trusted.

Such a good episode!

Fangirl49

Who's the dude with the blue eye? That was totally recognizable. It's not like a Red to leave a clue like that one. That's going to come up again.

I actually wondered if this was an implant made by the toymaker.

Miranda

The kidnapper that had one blue and one grey eye you mean? I saw that too and so did Aram! I wonder if that will ever come up again.

Fangirl49

That's who I mean. Why would a Red hire someone so distinctive

Although I guess pony tail and muscle shake do stand out in a crowd. Lol

Lauren Helen Graham

Oh yes, that guy with the two different eye colors for sure will appear again and it will be Aram figuring it all out. I know that already and damn... There the Red/Aram relationship will go I'm really not sure if I'm still happy with that show at all.

Red will find out about Garvey, I'm sure of that... And we will, too. The question is, who will be faster? Red or Garvey?

Like Marilyn said before, their scenes were so powerful and I loved them! I love Garvey as the new big bad because he fits it so perfectly and he is a match for Red.

Aram was fantastic when he told Garvey to back off! That's how I want to see him.

The only thing I can hold tight on with Red again is that he saved that boy instead of killing him... But everything else he did, he crossed a line.

ChakotaysLover

I'm kinda hoping that Garvey pushes Red's buttons and utters Liz's name in front of Red. Cause I really want Red to visit bodily harm on that little creeper.

Why would Red kill the witness? The boy wasn't going to finger Red in anything, so there was no reason to eliminate him. Red may be a murder, but when he kills, it does have a purpose. If anything that witness is now leverage against Garvey.... at least until Red has a big stick in which to beat that crooked marshal with.

Lauren Helen Graham

Red for sure will do that at some point, Tari... Or Liz? Who knows, right?

We all know that Red didn't kill that witness And that he would never have done that... But this doesn't change anything of his betrayal At least not for me.

ChakotaysLover

Garvey needs to learn he's not the baddest shark in the ocean. When face to face with Raymond Redding... he's a minnow... and Red will have him for lunch.

JayT2001

I....... Think I may have a theory as to who Garvey is but it would depend on who those bones really are and it would explain why he is so invested in it.