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Come on, Liz knows that she is the center of Red's universe. She may act dumb, but she is not dumb. Even a blind person can see that Liz is the center of Red's universe. That his entire life is about her. So she sees that too, she just doesn't want to feed more into Red if that makes any sense..
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Miranda, has a point here... She must know, right? But who knows, maybe she takes it in a negative way. He only sees him as the person that destroyed her whole life, who brought only misery to her. I wouldn't call this the center of his universe. I'm not sure she's feeling that way in the positive sense like Emma meant it. You know what I mean? Do I still make sense?
But she isn't thinking clearly anymore as well and she's in denial about what she's done and somehow judges Red although she doesn't know the whole truth, is blind to the whole picture... And that's what makes me soooo angry! It's like she's judging the book by its first page. __________________
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Liz is an idiot sometimes....
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Miranda, do you really think that he has brought more misery to her life than positive things? I really have never thought about it and I would have to think about it some more. But this question I think we'd need to know everything, the whole past as well. What if she, her parents, have brought all this misery to Red and left him with no other choice than what he did? I'm really not sure if they are not equally at fault here and that there lives are so intertwined that it's hard to say where the lines are.
Back to Red, do you think he could in any circumstances tell Liz the truth about the time when he thought her dead? I'm really wondering since this discussion kind of was started in the episode discussion thread. __________________
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It probably wouldn't happen but I would love to see her keep pushing him saying he doesn't care or everything's he fault until she just pushes him too far and he winds up yelling at her about how much he does care.
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IF.... and I stress IF, Red had a moment of weakness (cause let's face it, Red is not a man who would admit to anything that pertained to his true emotional state. The man has far too many masks he wears for the world), and he confessed to Liz how hopeless he felt when he thought her dead, Liz probably wouldn't believe it. As we've seen lately, she hardly believes anything he says.
But this is just me. __________________
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You just ruined my dream.
Yeah, I'm just so discouraged by Liz. I wonder if here is anyway Red could tell her that she might believe. |
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Liz does not offer a lot to be hopeful for at the moment.
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I go back to Aram or Dembe being the ones who Liz would believe. They saw first hand and know how hard it was for Red. But Liz doesn't want to know. She doesn't see anything he does as justified or that he can make up for what has happened. At least now she doesn't. If that can change I don't know or what would change her mind.
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I would have said Cooper might be able to talk to her but now he's back to blaming Red. Katarina, I think, brought a lot of misery to Red. I think she's the one who used him and got him in all this mess. Although I would like to know more about their back story to be sure but that's how I feel now. |
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