Lauren Helen Graham

Fangirl49

Liz is pure evil. I can’t stand to look at her anymore. And Ressler is dumb.

Lauren Helen Graham

There is not much to add there, is there????

How can a person be THAT dumb. It's unbelievable and honestly, I can only laugh about Ressler. There really is nothing else to do.

I'm super happy that at least Aram is done with her for her betrayals! FINALLY!

In the end I wish Red would have told Cooper about what the reason really was and what he is trying to protect so badly.

If you ask me, Liz is just nuts... Unbelievable what she did. And not caring about Agnes or anybody at all. She is nuts and really pure evil. And this black woman with her, I hated her already when she first spied on Ilya and I hope she's dead really soon... That's a character like Smokey or Heddie. I really dislike her.

Easteregg

I think the main problem is that for seven seasons they kept giving up little secrets and now trying to solve the big picture in one season. They don't give Liz time to develop logically, but break her character down. It will mean that Red dies in the end and she takes over his empire as a new refugee, because she can't go back now. Agnes will then suffer the same fate as her.

I think that Season 8 is finally exciting again so far, but I really think it's a shame that so many details of the solution will be left behind in so few episodes.

Fangirl49

I actually appreciated what Cooper told Liz. That she should talk to Red. That they were going to keep working with him. That she was also responsible. What a breath of fresh air. I never thought the show would have people deal with Liz like that. He understood her pain. But he also held her accountable!

Three cheers for Aram. He too felt bad that Liz lost her mom but I also felt he had faith in Red. And now he is done with her. She used him like that and if red had died Aram wouod have been arrested. Unforgivable

Marvin girard. He has won my undying love. He loves my red. And wants him to leave liz alone. She has cost red so much.

No words for Ressler. Pity sex. Really. I understood him sleeping with Samar more than this. And I feel bad for keenler fans. You wait so long and you get this. But they aren’t alone. I feel like I will feel the same if Liz and red ever reunite. How can you fix this other than she’s a pod person or zombie.

I love Dembe too.

So I watched this show not even expecting liz to act right and I didn’t think about how it connects to the past becuase it doesn’t connect to S1 at all. It made it easier

And I guess becuase I am trying to fix liz I wondered if Katarina recording that conversation had some kind of code word to trigger the warrior gene or something. Becuase liz just seemed so vacant like she wasn’t even really there


Easter I get your point. Idk how the show will end. Idk how it can make sense. At this point I don’t even know if the secret will be worth it.

I will also add that Yes the show has been on seven years. They have had ample time to make us understand liz. And haven’t done it. She changed in S3 for no reason and has only gotten worse. Maybe if she had been not hating red all this time, I could see this anger now. But this is just more of the same. And Liz should know better.

Lauren Helen Graham

I'm glad you guys share the same opinion about the show and this episode.

In general I totally agree with Easter. I really love season 8 so far because it's somehow going back to what it was (action wise and so on...). But I hate that they destroyed all the relationships.

Cooper was actually pretty good I liked him telling her how it is... And after what she did, how can they go back to her as if nothing ever happened.

Honestly, I never saw the task force in the end team up with Red to get to Liz... I always imagined it being the other way around. But no, it's them vs. Liz. Man, that's crazy! And Red again didn't admit he was N13 or anything towards Katarina... Why do they still believe he would have been that person We know how great he is in that. He is accused of stuff and just deflects. Mostly because it's not true.

Easter, I believe as well that in the end Red is going to die and right now I really think by Liz's hand. I always believed that to be the end of the show and her taking over his empire. It's a sad end for the show if you ask me though.

Pity sex... Great word that describes it very well but I'm afraid if Ressler might betray the task force while hunting her down I'm wondering if Red knows... Or finds out.

crazy_diamond

Liz has basically forgotten the past seasons. She is really driving me up the wall!

The writing is just , the only people that have come out of it well are Raymond, Demby and Cooper

I do wonder what is going with Reddington with his illness..

Miranda

I loved this episode! It is finally getting exciting again and there is suspence again like we had in S1.

I love it that they are going to hunt down Liz again! It is really going to be the team and Red vs. Liz and I do hope the team and Red win. Liz is never going to be one step ahead of Red. Never ever. He has been on the run for over 30 years. So many people have tried to kill him and now she thinks she is going to be the one to kill him? Yeah right woman, not a freaking chance in hell.

She was so smug when she told him that he was never going to be willing to kill and that she was willingly to kill him. One of them is going down and I can already tell you who it will be. And it ain't Red.

Finally Aram is seeing her for who she really is and I really hope he is going to do everything in his power to hunt her down and I actually want him to arrest her. How amazing would that be!

I have no words for Ressler and Liz. No words. But I hope from the bottom of my heart they didn't have sex. Liz totally distroyed Ressler and almost killed him and then she shows up at his door. WTF! No! No! No!

crazy_diamond

Yeah I'm glad finally Aram has finally seen the light in regards to Liz

Ressler is an idiot..

Fangirl49

Miranda, I thought it was exciting too. But I have to admit, the only things that made it tolerable for me was the team actually being on reds side. If that had not happened, I could not have stood it.

Also I looked at liz as a blacklister. Not as someone I wanted to redeem. I couldn’t think about the first seasons and how much I want that back. I looked at liz as someone I don’t care for.

Lauren Helen Graham

Miranda, I love that you loved it as much as I did. But I'm with Marilyn here... I think it would have been completely different had the team again stood with Liz. But man, this time they didn't. It's so about time.

Funny thing though, in the end every single person of them just wants to protect her and that's why they put her at the top of the list.

I couldn't have said it any better... She is really driving me up the wall as well. How could she have forgotten about everything Red did for her in the past. It's as if it never happened. It doesn't count anymore because the only thing she sees right now is Red always just wanting the worst for her.

crazy_diamond

Exactly...in the eppy it was mentioned what Red did for her and she completely ignored it..how did she ever become a cop! ??

Fangirl49

I read this FanFiction today. And one part talked about Liz doing a psychological profile of Red and realizing he had a deep trauma that drove him and she analyzed his behavior and it helped her realize who he really is. And I thought to myself wow I forgot she was a profiler.

And I agree where is that person.

Lauren Helen Graham

A profiler even . I don't get it either... She took a turn that somehow can't be explained by anything that happened on the show.

crazy_diamond

agreed