Lauren Helen Graham

Wes&FredFan

Tonight's episode ... whoa. Watching Aram go all kung-fu and fight the guy off, but then discover that the Third Estate was really just the kids/"kidnap victims" of the rich was interesting.

Glad Dembe told Liz to tell Red the truth ... or warned her that HE would. He's done being Liz's accomplice in her lie and I'm totally here for that. Liz tried the whole "he can't find out" and Dembe said, "I'm here to tell you that I'm putting YOU on notice -- you tell him, or I will." Dembe's point is that Red will find out soon anyway, so he'd better at least find out from Liz herself or Dembe.

Looking forward to next week's episode. James will be awesome! Really hope that we see the big reveal in next week's 2 hour episodes. I get the feeling that Red may leave the TF after he finds out, and that Liz will have to chase after HIM (would love that) to prove to him that he matters to her. She's put him through enough.

JayT2001

Now we're getting somewhere. What's crazy is Liz has no clue who Dom is other than the talk they had but it looks like she's about to find out. Just as I was starting to like her again she shows her true colors. But props to Dembe for confronting her. Cannot say im surprised at her response. Her lack of remorse to the damage her secret has caused is typical Liz.

Easteregg

In the new promo you can see that Liz says "I know who you really are, I know everything". And in the episode 20 description, Liz is thinking about a big change. I think it might be Liz who wants to leave the task force.

Fangirl49

Kris, wasn't it you who thought Anna just handing over a clue about the third estate was too easy? Kudos to whoever realized it. I wish I had. Dang. Although I still think Red is playing her. It's hard to think that he at least didn't realize the possibility. He's probably trying to get to know her as an opponent. So the guy she was talking to, was that the guy who shot the Corsican? Now I'm not sure just how allied she is with the president.

So Liz was back to normal. Dembe tells her Red is searching for the person who turned him in and she's like oh well. He won't catch me. I know she is not that naive. She doesn't think Red asking questions of his people has a good ending for them. Or does she truly not care if he kills his entire stafff. And Dembe, finally. Yes you need to force her to tell Red or you need to.

Red walked in on their conversation. You know he found that suspicious. Just like Liz knew something was up when Dembe wasn't with Red in the beginning.

Wow, the case. I kind of suspected the first kid. But then they let him go. So I thought it really was another group and not the kids working together.

Yay Aram. Glad to see him get a great part. And see his compassion show.

So Dom went to the post office. Hope that means Katarina is dead. So he and his wife were apart. She remarried (probably as a cover like Katarina and Kirk) but she remained in touch with Dom.

I was wondering, we know a woman took Red for plastic surgery. Could it have been the mother and not Katarina.

I hope Lizs big decision is to go after Red if he leaves the task force. But it will probably be to get Agnes back.

Lauren Helen Graham

Marilyn, I'm not so sure it was me who brought the fact, that it was too easy for Anna to just head the Third Estate over to the task force Did I really say something like that? I don't recall

And yes, the guy she was talking to is the one who shot the Corsican

See, that's why I said from the beginning I don't really believe the president really is into it... Maybe it has something to do with his sick wife

Liz, no words Looks though that they will talk next week. I so can't wait, I really can't... What if Dom tells her everything in the end because Ressler found him?
On a side note: I'm so excited that Dom will be back!!!!

The kids, that was a surprise. Really didn't see that coming at all.

Aram in the field, that was refreshing. And he was really good and he was trying to safe the kids as soon as he found out. Sadly it was too late for one of them I first suspected the father somehow

I really hope so, too!

Nice thought about Liz being the one to leave the task force. But again? Who knows, maybe she is going to get her daughter back and live with Dom Just joking... I really don't know.

Miranda

And there is our true Liz again. Dembe literally told her that Red is going to kill Rudiger if she is not honest.. and yet she doesn't care and doesn't want to tell Red the truth! Dembe also should have told her that Red killed Smokey. Dembe should just tell Red! I love that Dembe called Liz out on it but she is never going to tell Red so Dembe might as well just tell Red.

and the guy who Anna was talking too and who shot the Corisan is also working at the White House, cause I saw him with the President as well. Don't know what his job at the White House is though..

Dom was the one who got the letter from the post office box. I am sure they are going to find out soon who Dom really is.

I still believe Marguerite Renard (Marko Jankowics' girlfriend) who told Jennifer that it was Katarina Rostova who took Red in to get the plastic surgery. Why would she lie about that? She has nothing to gain by it.

I liked the fighting scene Aram had with that guy. It was good to see Aram in that kind of action.

Fangirl49

Did marguerite actually say it was Katarina or did she say it was a woman and we assumed it was Katarina? I can't remember now.

Lauren Helen Graham

I just had a look because I couldn't recall exactly. And now, she didn't say that it was Katarina Rostova. She said a woman, a Russian... And Jennifer asked if it was Katarina Rostova and she didn't answer. Later on when Jennifer told Liz about it, she said that she didn't say a name but that she could see in her eyes that it was Katarina Rostova (which I really don't trust). So it's most likely that it could have been Katarina's mother

Jenny Heartland

Donna, Miranda and Jay, I so agree with you about Liz! First of all I was disappointed in the previous episode that when Dembe knew Red was going on a rampage to locate the person who betrayed him, that he didn't go to Liz immediately to let her know all hell was about to break loose on who knows how many people unless she came forward and told Red she was the one who betrayed him! But I'll give him credit for at least doing it now. And yes, her response was being worried about herself and not about the countless people who could be in harm's way as Red works his way through a list of, in his mind, possible betrayers. In the preview for the next episode, there was a clip of Red looking at Liz and I've never seen THAT look on his face before! I'm guessing that may be the moment when she confesses...but again, just a guess. But that sure was one scary look on his face! I'm thinking that finding out Liz betrayed him could make Red not trust anyone, to the point he bails on everyone!

And Dom is back. I didn't recognize his name at first but the minute I saw his photo, I realized it was Liz's grandfather. Wow...this next double episode is going to be dynamite!

Donna, that really would be interesting if Red decided to leave the task force...I have a feeling they're going to have some boffo finale when the time comes and that one could be a real possibility. Although EasterEgg might have it right...that it could be Liz who chooses to leave the task force. FanGirl, you too could be right about Liz leaving in order to find Agnes! Kris, I liked your thought also that she may leave to be reunited with little Agnes...I've been wondering if they were going to pick up on that story line at some point or just hope that none of remembered that Liz has a daughter. So in theory I guess, Liz could leave to find Agnes, and Red could leave because after being betrayed by both Liz and Dembe, he may believe there's no one left he can really trust. Although, I actually believe because of recent scenes that he could trust Cooper.

Kris, I'm with you on it not even occurring to me either that the kids were the ones who were doing all that kidnapping and blackmailing. My question is, when they showed the kids at that one point when they were being captured and we saw that one kid's dad (the obnoxious dad in my opinion)...I'm assuming HE was the mastermind of it? Unless I overlooked it, they didn't actually say that was the case, I'm guessing the writers assumed we would all know that. I hate to admit it but, not being the sharpest knife in the silverware drawer, I'm still not positive about it...was he the real mastermind or just a shocked dad that his son was in on it when they showed him in that last scene?

The thought of having a scene where Dom tells Liz everything is just so juicy to imagine! I hope that turns out to be the case! And by the way, if, like in the preview scene, Liz actually tells Red she knows who he is and that she knows "everything" I hope they'll let all of us viewers know as well and not drag it out for a few more episodes. This is just getting too good and I feel like WE need to know who Red is and WE need to know everything as well! Ummm, new thought: on the other hand, I guess if we get to see Dom telling Liz everything, I guess we all would also know at that point. (duh) Aye caromba! Can hardly wait for the next episode!!

Jenny

Black_Jack

To be fair at that point Red was going after people who betrayed his code. The guy selling drugs was a line Red would have killed any other time. I think Smokey was a line Smokey was logistics Red might have scared him but throwing him off the plane was too much.

The Third estate was boring. At first I thought it was a big terrorist group but when I saw how much of ******* those parents were. I was 99% sure who the Third Estate really were.

From the way Anna Mcmahon had a relationship with the parents and parents with each other. I thought the Parents were the ones she was working with her for her plot.

I think the episode promo is another Red herring we think Liz knows everything about Red but she just knows about Deadington.

Jenny Heartland

Hi Jack, You make a good point about the first two guys Red confronted wasn't just because he believed they could have been the ones to turn him in to the authorities and got him into prison. They did actually break his code so you're right and I stand corrected, and so it's good timing on Dembe's part to give Liz the ultimatum of either confessing to Red herself ASAP or he'll tell Red himself, because now lives can possibly be spared. So if she does confess to him, that'll be great but she still won't make it back onto my "nice" list. She's going to have to prove herself worthy of that by consistently being decent to Red over time. Also, I can't even imagine that if he finds out it was Liz who turned him in, that he wouldn't just forgive her. The other option is just too farfetched to fathom happening, that she would have to go on the run to protect herself from Red. No, that's just not gonna happen!

And it's pretty savvy of you to figure out The Third Estate deal; like I mentioned it hadn't even crossed my mind that the kids were the ones spearheading that, I totally bought in!! So my confusion still stands: Do we assume that the one dad who wouldn't pay the ransom was the real head of the operation or in that last scene when they showed him seeing his kid and the others being taken in was he just shocked to see the kids getting busted like a lot of viewers were...or was he seeing that the jig was up and the authorities now know that he was the real one in charge of leading the kids into the scheme? I can't make up my mind but I guess I'll go with the first option, that he was the mastermind of it all.

I hope you're wrong about the preview of the upcoming episodes...that they're yanking our chain again and Liz really doesn't find out all the information about Red. I'm SO ready to find out who Red really is and every other detail we've all been wondering about all this time! But if she does find out everything Red has kept secret, then when the new season starts and we already know everything, there would have to be another scenario, another hook that's just as compelling as this one has been over all 6 seasons.

With the few remaining episodes of this season, I'm going to assume they wrap up the Anna McMahon story line, plus if we DO find out everything about Red that we've all been wanting to know, they might start Season 7 with a whole new premise. Hard to imagine that though. Guess we'll know soon enough, I can't wait for the upcoming double episode!

Jenny

Easteregg

I actually believe that Red is forgiven her. In the next episode, Red goes to Dom to ask for advice. Maybe after learning that Liz betrayed him. Dom will be on Liz's side and talking to him. Whether you like Liz or not, I can understand her a little bit. She has lost her parents, Sam, Tom and her entire life has been turned upside down. All she have left is Red and he lied to her from the start, even though he always said "I never lied to you". He is not entirely innocent of the situation. Maybe none of this would have happened - if he would have told her the truth. But I really hope that Liz's role will become a little gentler again. At the moment it's really hard to like her. And I loved Season 2 & 3 because of their relationship a lot.

Fangirl49

I doubt we learn everything about Red that we want to know. I can see him starting the story with Katarina on the run and up to her suicide. I can also see him saying something like there once was a young man.... and never saying this mans name or any hint of this mans life, just that he is someone who knew Katarina. Arrrgh. Don't get me wrong, I think we will get something, but not everything. I saw on an interview where James mentions an 8th season. Idk if he was serious but I am all in!

Idk if the father was working with Anna or just a horrible parent. I'm kinda going with horrible parent right now, but you never know. It was hard seeing him play evil. I still remember him as being John Boy on the Waltons and you all have probably never heard of that.

About Smokey, he really crossed a line. And Dembe knows that. So Red was going to kill him. So I don't get Dembe being upset about that. And I wonder if it was his guilty conscience making him upset. Honestly, he wasn't too blame for Smokey. Smokey should never have set up a drug run using Reds organization. He went too far.

I think Red would forgive liz anything. But trust is a completely different topic. His relationship with her is making him vulnerable. I don't see how he can trust her. This is her second betrayal.

And Lizs character is so crazy. We see absolutely no regret from her in these episodes. She doesn't want Red to know. But I would have liked some scenes where it looked like she regretted her actions.

Jenny Heartland

Hey guys, just a bit of trivia about this latest episode...most everyone likely noticed it but for those who didn't, I just wanted to mention that Andrew McCarthy directed this particular episode. I read online that he's directed at least 10 episodes but that may be old news by now, who knows, so maybe even more. Anyway, I read that he and James Spader were in that teenage movie together years ago called Pretty in Pink when they were either in their late teens or early 20's. So I just thought it was really cool that they've remained friends all these years and Spader even trusts Andrew's talent enough to bring him on as director of some of the Blacklist episodes.

Easteregg, I take your point about Liz' life being turned upside down and so your comments have made me decide to cut her at least a little bit of slack...but just a little 'til she proves to be a faithful friend of Red's once again. I'm with you in feeling like her and Red's relationship had been a big reason for the show's appeal early on, so yeah, I hope they can somehow get back to that. I have a feeling they will, at least after they're done dealing with the betrayal confession and all the rest of the emotions that will surely be involved with that.

Hey Fangirl, I've seen excerpts from that older show you mentioned, The Waltons and that was when the dad in this last episode was John Boy like you said, and I'm thinking he was actually the star of of that show maybe, not sure. I know him more from some popular shows he's been on recently that, for some reason, he's played the villain...Law & Order SVU, Blue Bloods and some others I can't think of right now. Anyway, he sure did a good job of making some of us not like him in this latest episode of Blacklist! So he's really good at playing a villain!

Jenny