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Old 10-11-2019, 12:59 AM
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7x02: "LOUIS T. STEINHIL: CONCLUSION" Episode Discussion Thread (10/11/2019 @ 8PM)

7x02 | Louis T. Steinhil: Conclusion
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Liz, Dembe and the Task Force continue to search for Red. Red attempts to escape his abductors with help from a surprise ally, but discovers he is not Katarina Rostova’s only target in her hunt for information. Brian Dennehy, Laila Robins, Natalie Paul and David Meunier also guest star.
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Old 10-11-2019, 02:54 AM
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I just saw a new trailer for tonight's episode. I'm really worried about Dom. But it was so cool to see him with a sniper rifle.
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Old 10-11-2019, 03:24 AM
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I as well saw that promo a few minutes ago, Jay. And man, am I worried about Dom as well... Let's hope nothing bad will happen.
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:28 PM
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I as well saw that promo a few minutes ago, Jay. And man, am I worried about Dom as well... Let's hope nothing bad will happen.


My heart just sank. I did not see that coming.
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:31 PM
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No words. My heart hurts. I can't believe Dom is so hurt.

And Red breaks my heart when he's sad. I was glad he told Liz her questions caused this. Maybe now she sees. I can't believe her timing She literally asks him again while Dom is so hurt. She has no compassion.

And Katerina seemed to blame red for losing her family. But red said Dom did it. What’s going on.

But now we know Doms story was not everything. He apparently tried to kill Katarina.
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:59 AM
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Oh Dom.. I really hope he is going to pull through but I am so afraid he is going to die and with him a lot of information will be lost.

Loved the episode. It was so good!

I had a feeling Katarina would come into Liz's life without Liz knowing she is her mother. and there she is as a next door neighbour. I really hope she is not going to hurt Liz or Agnes.
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Old 10-12-2019, 05:34 AM
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I hope Dom pulls through with his memory intact. I really like his character. He needs to be him for the final confrntation with Kat. He can't die now!
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Old 10-12-2019, 06:24 AM
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I will say this to about liz asking questions. She did pick a bad time to ask. She deserved what red told her. But she actually apologized and explained why they need to talk. Thats how she should have always been. She understood how much he was hurting right then. That’s how I need to see her act. Now Red needs to talk to her.

But what gets me is Red just told her how much danger they are all in. She sees Dom hurt by a woman. And a new woman unexpectedly moved in next door. Come on liz make the connection. I know I wouldn’t. But she’s FBI.

And when Red talked to liz he said a woman. He didn’t call her Katarina. And when Katarina asked about Dom she said the old man. Are they just making us doubt her identity?

So something happened in Belgrade. Is that where they said? And Dom tried to kill Katerina. I need to rewatch. Did I get that right?so he never forgave what she did.

Wasn’t Luther Braxton in Belgrade or Anslo Garrick??? I go with Anslo Garrick. This ep was so similar. The tracker in reds neck. The nurse having to take it out. Red in the car telling her he has killed people for less.

Also inS5 red says Ressler tried to kill him in Belgrade. So just what is going on?
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Good eppy

Aww poor Dom, I hope he pulls through, I really enjoy Dom and Red's friendship and aww Red at his bedside...

Really good scene with Red and Liz about what had caused all this...

Hmm so the nurse is on tenderhooks atm..I wonder if the nurse will stay in his team, also liked her and Dembe's scenes

Also why do I get the feeling Katarina is not Katarina.., I know it's her, everyone said so, but still...
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Liz . Red told you that it's because YOU were asking questions in such a way that you raised suspicions ... THAT is why Dom is lying there with a hole in him. She did it -- Red told her not to, that it was dangerous. She did it. And then she adds that she's going to insist that he answers her one day.

Bad timing, Liz. Wish she'd stop acting entitled to know everything about the past. She makes situations far worse.

Perhaps the nurse will become the next Kate?

The way Liz is acting is annoying me ... I ship Lizzington (romantically), but I hate when she acts entitled like this. Seriously, staring at your grandfather who was shot because of you and you want to know why people aren't jumping through hoops to tell you things that, really, don't affect YOUR life? Red is doing everything he can to protect Liz and Agnes, almost dying himself, and yet even still Liz tells him that she's going to insist.
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:50 AM
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Marilyn, I'm so glad you got the Belgrade connection. It was Luther Braxton, who told or reminded Red of a story about Belgrade. So is it possible they were talking about that incident back then already? Was Luther Braxton somehow involved?

And yes, to me it sounds as if Dom had betrayed his daughter, that he had caused all of that misery. He tried to kill her or give her up to his superiors because he thought she betrayed her country, the country he was working for as well... I suspected something like that.
I'm still at a loss on Red's involvement... He was there and he set up an explosion, right? Was the night of the fire actually caused by him through Dom's actions? But who is he?

So Liz and Ressler asking the questions brings the Townsend Directive back into the picture... Who are they? They are ordered to kill Katarina. They were back then already. Are they connected to the Cabel? The KGB? The US intelligence? I'm really wondering. Or maybe even a combination of all the three because all of them were betrayed in the end?

And what could Red have that would help Katarina? What kind of information? And why wouldn't he give them to her if he really was protecting her the whole time and still cares for her? I'm so confused.

Oh Liz... I actually loved the two heart to hearts she and Red had. I loved that she for the first time saw how hurt he was and that she told him she'd ask those questions at some point because it's her right to know. Honestly, I'm kind of lost lately... She means about who was coming after Dom and Red and why, right? I think she has a right to know because she actually cares and the task force is involved and she wants to keep her family safe. Had he told her, it would never be possible for Katarina to come back into her life as a neighbor. I really am afraid that these actions again will drive a wedge between them and honestly I don't get why he didn't tell her. To protect Katarina still? That very well could endanger Liz and Agnes.
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I'm so confused.
i am a bit too, that's why I'm a bit wary of Katrina being her, as what we know in previous seasons and now this, some of it doesn't make sense
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Truly a great episode! This one makes my top 5. Sooooo much ground to cover and where to begin.

A few random thoughts first.

There's something about this Katarina that leads me to believe that maybe I've spent all of this time looking at the wrong people who may not be who I think they are. I'm starting to believe the answer really has been right in front of us all this time. But as far as Katarina goes, what I'm certain of, she sent Red The Rostova in Drexel 3x15. She needs not to speak on it her actions say it all.

Red blames Dom yet Dom always blamed Red? Now this had me really confused. All I could think about was the meme of Spiderman pointing at Spiderman. Wow! What happened in Belgrade?

Dom is a Rostov??? Again this caught me off guard and why Liz didn't think anymore of it really blew my mind. No... wait...what? Or nothing. Wow! What did Red really whisper to Kirk? I'm rethinking everything.

G.Host = Louis T Steinhil. That was pretty good.

I think the nurse is possibly a double agent and her asking Red about the FBI was icing on the cake. She's quite possibly getting Intel on both Kat and Red.

I loved hearing Dembe tell Franky Red was Decent. Their friendship is truly something special.
That business card Dembe gave Franky I think just might of been a slick way to name drop the stranger.
I'm not buying Cooper completely siding with Liz. I just think it was his way of saying he completely supports her. I will wait until Red and Cooper discuss this alone before I speak anymore on it.

As much as I loved this episode having Dom make that reveal only to then get shot and reach for Red saying he has so much left to say was heart breaking. I hope he pulls through but there's something really dark that ran through my mind is starting to scare me. I just hope it doesn't come to that.

I understand Liz's frustration but going about these things like an entitled brat DOES NOT HELP!! It's clear she hasn't learned anything from almost having Red sentenced to death.

And now she's across the hall. #motherrussia
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Great thought about the nurse being a double agent. Hadn’t thought of that! I’m ashamed to say that I didn’t figure out her helping Red escape was a set up. Duh. I did realize steinhill was faking his death. Because that is just what we do on our show!

Kris I think Belgrade happened sometime after the house fire and Luz killing RR. The house fire was in America.

Luther Braxton tried to kill Red in Belgrade. We also have Red talking about Ressler trying to kill him in Belgrade (S5). I kind of think we are coming full circle.

I can’t decide how recent Belgrade is. Part of me thinks it happened at the end of Doms story and before our Red meets kate. We have Dom telling Red that he ruined everything in S3. And I think this is part of what happened that ruined everything. And led to our Red becoming rr and not Ilya. I think that’s why Katarina is questioning him because she does not know who he is or how he fits in.

The other part of me thinks Belgrade happened while Ressler was chasing Red and whatever happened was so bad it pushed our Red to enter and stay in Lizs life.

Donna I get your and jays point about liz still acting entitled. I really didn’t need her to keep asking Red about the past.

And yes a strange woman moved in next door. But dang, how many times does red have to point out danger before liz gets a clue. She knows a woman did this to Dom and now a strange woman just happens to move in. I can’t blame red for not naming Katarina. He shouldn’t have to in order for Liz to be suspicious of her new neighbor.
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Oh man... so many thoughts on the episode.

Jay, damn it... YES! Why would Dom be a Rostov???? Katarina was married to Constantin Rostov, right? So that's why her name was Rostova, right? So how is it her fathers name is Rostov as well. I'm soooo damn confused. This isn't right, is it?

And I was so damn frustrated when Ressler referred to Dom as a Rostova. It would be Rostov (without an a!). Damn it! Get some background on Russian family names

The pictures that was sent the producers back then confirmed that it was a mistake that they said Rostova. That would have implicated Katarina (a female). It was meant to be Rostov. I think it was on the dvds, right?

Marilyn, Belgrade is kind of confusing me so much. And Ressler and Red and Belgrade? Seriously? Which episode in season 5? I really don't recall and I'd like to re-watch.

About the timeline, don't you think the night of the fire would happen first? Then Belgrade? I really have no idea.
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