eternalfate

I was as well! It would have been awesome to see the development of all of them during Season 2 besides all the Crane family drama.
I think making Jeremy turn out to be Crane son ended up as a horrible storyline.

In the end, it just felt like everything had to be tied with Crane. Even Abraham being Crane former BFF... and i think that's when the downhill sort of started because during the war with Abraham I was actually TeamAbraham.

Lucrezia Borgia

I wholeheartedly agree with all you just said! It was kinda lame, that Jeremy was Crane's son. It felt forced or it didn't fit. I don't know.

eternalfate

Lucrezia Borgia

Same here. I just felt, that it was so out of place that it was somewhat absurd. But then the writing of s2 was really bad all the way. John Noble is a great actor and could have been utilized successfully, if the script wasn't so awful.

ScottB

They decided Jeremy was War, and Crane's son, before they even started filming S1.

Before the pilot ever aired, the showrunners expected the attraction of the show would be the supernatural aspect, the historical connections, and primarily the 'man out of time' thing. They never did figure out that they had another X-Files--a show that lived or died not on the strength of its plot, but on the strength of the interactions of its two main characters.

Take away the last 5 minutes of the season 1 finale, leave Henry as a supporting part of team Witness, and they would have had a far better show going forward. But the way they ended season 1 practically forced them to focus on Crane, Katrina and Jeremy for most of S2. And that in turn led to Tom wanting a reduced workload in S3, and Nicole wanting off altogether--which gave us a S3 where the show often seemed to forget who the leads were supposed to be.

And now we're facing a S4 that may well only make sense to people who've seen nothing before it.

Lucrezia Borgia

Okies, I didn't know that. The writing was poor in s2, tho. IMHO. I agree with what you just said. I fear s4 will be just that, unrelated to anything in previous seasons.

eternalfate

Lucrezia Borgia

And it could have been much better, given the fact they had a good actor in the role.

TheCheshireKitten

I think Jeremy Crane was a mistake from the jump - right at the concept. They should've left it with Abraham as the Horseman of Death being the only one personally connected to Crane. Fitting twist to the original short story. The kid was overkill.

I never bought into any kind of familial dynamic with Mison, Noble or Winter.

It's ironic that what turned out to be the "fake" character, Henry Parrish, was far more interesting and would've been so much better for the show in the long run as a recurring character.

Lucrezia Borgia

It certainly was an overkill. And it showed. The plot was questionable at best. Henry Parrish I liked myself, too. He was interesting at first.

taplandia

Sleepy Hollow interviews from Comic Con:
Tom Mison Wants Donald Trump On Sleepy Hollow
Ichabod "Immediately Stood Out" to Tom Mison
Tom Mison On His Acting Beginnings
Sleepy Hollow Characters Were Not Written For Race Says Tom Mison
John Noble Interview: Sleepy Hollow and Playing Complex Characters

Lucrezia Borgia

Thank you for the links!

oraliax2

as the next horsemen?

eternalfate

I completely agree. Even if they had the idea, sometimes writing is about adapting and changing. Off the back of my head, here goes shows I remember changing things because they adapted.

Friends - Monica and Chandler romance on Friends wasn't suppose to be long lasting but the fan feedback was so strong that it became as great and epic as it was. The adapting to what was great worked for the best.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer /Angel - Darla was Vampire Girl #1... Julie Benz was so great, she became Darla and made Angel show a whole lot more better. A non planned character worked for the show.

Arrow - Fan feedback made the writers keep Felicity, and now she's the main female character on the show.


Sometimes you have to adapt and be willing to change.
Jeremy was a mess. Making Season 2: The Crane Family Drama Adventures was a mess.