Dacrown

The Survivor

Well that finale was amazing.

Very nice wrap up of the Theo storyline.

So Silver isn't as bad as she seemed. In a way I am glad they didn't make her evil. She is redeemable. However her getting away with Tabitha. I wonder how long that will last.

I expected that Morena's real life pregnancy would be written to into the show. So its easy to suspect it will be Barbara Gordon.

Loved the rescue mission of Jim, Oswald, Alfred, Selina and Harvey all working together.

Very nice tease to Mr. Freeze.

Damn You February!

eternalfate

brave princess

I was actually surprised that it was written into the show. In order for Lee to be okay with naming their daughter Barbara then something is going to have to happen that redeems Barbara Kean in her eyes so it'll be interesting to see if that happens.

I wasn't expecting Mr. Freeze to show up but when the Gotham end title was frozen, I knew exactly what was happening.

It was so fantastic to see everyone working together to rescue Bruce. I'm not sad to see Theo gone. Speaking of Galavan, that place where they took his body, it looked like one of the bodies that they had belonged to Fish. All they showed was the hair but it looked like the red streaks that she had in her hair.

Marki

like so im dissapointed that it looks like itll be theo they will try bring back. the cast talked about how you know they not always really dead there are people who work to get people b ack together and so i was like id love it to be jerome etc but not theo. im glad tabitha finally stood up and i guess protected silver so go her! and i knew silver would at least feel bad about him dying and i think she has potential to change.

not sure how selina knew what was going on and that they were at nygmas? i love that alfred and selina seemend to be getting along in the last scene of them. I must say i loved how lucious figured out nygmas riddle it was like nygma was stunned that someone could answer it.

And omg how cute bruce asking lee to marry him!

The Survivor

I'm convinced we'lll see Jerome again. If they're taking corpses. Then chances not only Jerome but Fish Mooney too. (I hope that brings some hope to Fish fans.)

Mysterious Island Girl

I do want to go back and examine all those bodies in the tanks. What was that doctor's name they said? We do know that Firefly was brought there after having her suit fuse to her body when she was burned. Is this doctor at Indian Hill, would he be responsible for the "rise of the villians"? And yes, that red streaked hair made me think of Fish in a tank.

I so love Oswalt Cobblepot. Him and Nygma or him and Gordon, not sure which is my favorite bro-couple.

Tabitha, like the Firefly girl got tired of her family, her brother. All those epi's and Tabby was just a background character, now she is the strong one. Glad Galavan is dead, beaten by Penguin and shot by Gordon. That I wish did not happen. Galavan needed to die, but not by Jim Gordon's gun.

I never trusted Silver when she sat in the cell with Bruce. She seemed up to her regular old tricks, but she proved herself. She is truly in the Bruce Wayne fan club. We'll see how she developes. Her and Cat will mos def have a rivalry in the future whether or not they still hold Bruce in their hearts.

I can not remember if I heard during Galavan's talk a few epi's back, whether or not there was an affair between a ancestoral Wayne man and a Dumas girl that sparked their feud. Can anyone help me out?

blue winter roses

Loved seeing Jim and Penguin together again. I realize Penguin might not be his ideal ally but it would do Jim good to be nicer to him. My favorite part was Penguin beating Theo with the bat and when Jim tells him to stop, it's just to shoot him. A team effort. And Theo was too much of a mustache twirling villain for my taste.

Interesting that they decided to write in Morena's pregnancy but I have a hard time believing she'd name the baby Barbara (if they're looking to introduce Batgirl). Right now Barbara stealing and naming that baby herself seems more plausible than Leslie (and Jim) being convinced to name it Barbara.

I was worried Bruce might let himself be manipulated by Silver again but he wasn't, just felt sorry for her. Which I can understand because it never would've mattered if Silver ever agreed with Theo's plans, she would've had no choice but to go along with them regardless. For her sake I'm glad she was able to escape with Tabitha, and that Tabitha even had enough of Theo. Also loved the little banter between Selina and Alfred as they were getting away with Bruce.

Loved seeing more Harvey, wish we saw more Ed, but there was already enough going on. Mr. Freeze looked a lot like Firefly to me and I'm surprised he's already freezing people. I hope they go into his backstory. I'm excited for Hugo Strange though. And I want Jerome back!

I can't believe we have to wait till February though for new episodes

The Survivor

That would be one hell of an idea for a storyline.

ring of fire

In some comics James is the bio dad of Barbara and in others he adopts her. Depends on the continuity. He also has other kid: James Gordon Jr.

I think Lee will give birth to James Gordon Jr and Barbara Kean will get pregnant by somebody else. Something could happen to Barbara and James could end up adopting the baby at the end of the show and naming her Barbara because of her mother.

I think this episode was one of the best of the season. It was awesome to see everybody working together. I hope we get more of this in the future.

Also I'm glad Theo is dead. I can't wait to see Tabitha and Silver working together. I love the idea of a villain female duo.

Northern_xTC

Oh yeah, that's true. Though, isn't James Junior kind of...evil?

ring of fire

Yes, he is a sociopath.

obisgirl

I just watched the winter finale. It was amazing!

Marki

i really thought they would put the pregnancy in the show but i didnt think it would have been yet with filming timing and when the news broke. i guess i just thought they were gonna bother hiding it.


should be doctor (hugo) strange

yes they said there was an affair and that did spark the feud.

my favourite quote of the episode "how do i know your not a martian in a rubber suit?"

Mysterious Island Girl

I read some Batman mythology on wiki and it claims James Jr, is a son of Sarah Essen, a woman involved with the GCPD in various ways, and she was kidnapped and murdered by the Joker. Sarah and Jim had an affair or were married depending on what you are reading.
In the TV show she was the original commissioner who was murdered by Jerome Valaskas.

I like how this show is not sticking with the written Batman mythos. It is being like the written mythos by changing characters to suit their story.

Was Lea Thompskins character always a guest star? Will she be back with a baby or will she be gone? This we will have to see.

Thank you Marki for filling me in with the details I missed.