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Old 08-14-2015, 04:53 PM
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Old 08-14-2015, 10:08 PM
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It was inevitable with all the dream Ryan had and Joe basically acting like his overly attatched ex-girlfriend
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Old 08-16-2015, 06:07 PM
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and that's exactly what he was acting like!
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Old 08-18-2015, 05:21 PM
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:26 PM
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he really was! if he couldn't have Ryan no one could!
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:09 PM
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Ryan could never happily be with someone really
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:50 PM
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I agree....there was no one that really understood him...
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Old 08-27-2015, 05:44 AM
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he really was! if he couldn't have Ryan no one could!
There was definitely a note of bitterness in his voice when he asked Theo about Gwen.

That's the sad thing about Ryan's character he pushes everyone away because he hates himself and doesn't think he deserves them. I think that's why Ryan just sits there silently whenever Joe talks about their connection/similarities
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Old 09-04-2015, 07:57 PM
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i competely agree about Ryan...
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Old 09-05-2015, 03:30 PM
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At least Joe liked him no matter what :lol;
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Old 09-05-2015, 06:48 PM
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oh yes...he always had Joe!
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Old 09-07-2015, 08:22 AM
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And Ryan was all Joe needed
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Old 09-07-2015, 06:25 PM
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Yep, he didn't really have anything else in the end. I always thought it was a nice touch that they had Joe relax once he saw Ryan at the execution

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Whether he wanted him or not
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Old 09-10-2015, 02:57 PM
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Exactly
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Old 09-11-2015, 06:21 PM
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he was always there...real or imagined...
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