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Sweetgirl465 07-23-2014 04:03 PM

Suits Episode Discussion: 4x06 - "Litt the Hell Up" [Airs July 23rd, 2014]

Forwood4Bamon 07-23-2014 05:34 PM

as long as harvey/donna and louis/jessica harvey are in it, the episode is fine with me.:P

Gio Gio 07-24-2014 12:40 AM

The new episode will be interesting... The title is.. "We're Done"...

Gio Gio 07-24-2014 01:14 AM



'Suits' star Rick Hoffman talks Louis' dangerous moves
By Mandi Bierly on Jul 23, 2014 at 10:00PM

Spoiler alert: If you haven’t watched this week’s episode of Suits, “Litt the Hell Up,” stop reading now.

Louis (Rick Hoffman) once again made a move that unintentionally hurt Harvey’s position in the battle for Gillis Industries. Louis fixed it by tricking Charles Forstman (recurring guest star Eric Roberts) into doing business with him by making him believe he hates Harvey as much as Forstman does—a move that Harvey called brilliant, and rewarded by suggesting they drink scotch from Louis’ “You Just Got Litt Up!” mugs. But Forstman had the last laugh, insisting that Louis run the money through Switzerland and the Cayman Islands to avoid taxes. Louis is legally bound to report him, but that would blow the deal, and he can’t bear to think of Harvey’s face if he disappoints him again.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Let’s start with the scene where Louis goes to make the deal with Forstman. I’ve talked with [creator] Aaron Korsh about the dangerous energy Eric Roberts to the show. Was that intimidating?
I have been a fan of Eric’s since I was in my late teens. I had seen him on Broadway with John Malkovich doing Burn This. It was one of the plays that had inspired me to really take acting seriously and then study it that following first semester in college. So I’ve been a fan of his for a very long time. Just to be doing this sort of intense scene with him was another surreal, out-of-body experience for me as an actor. I kinda used the nerves a little bit, trying to channel them the right way. Especially because Louis was really putting a lot on the line here. He had to do a nice acting job himself to make sure he convinced Eric’s character that Louis was for real. Not to give anything else away, but Eric’s been a part of this show now for a bunch episodes. He’s a fantastic energy to have on this show. He’s so unique in what he does. I think it’s a perfect fit for this show.

So they’ll be having more scenes together?
Let’s just say, being what is revealed at the very end of the episode, Louis has been Litt up himself by Forstman. [Laughs]

Louis used his journal/time capsule of rage as evidence of his hatred for Harvey. He told Forstman to look at the entry for May 9, 2012. Do you know what supposedly happened on that date, or did the writers not tell you and it’s another can opener situation?
[Laughs] I don’t think that was the focal point of the scene. If people start wondering what the hell happened on May 9, 2012… We all know that Louis’ office has been urinated in by Harvey or someone close to Harvey. We know that many different tricks have been played on Louis throughout the years. One can just use their wonderful imagination to figure that one out. [Laughs]

I think fans will care enough to ask you that in the future.
There was a scene with Louis and Donna seasons ago where Donna has something on Louis and I think it was like June 7, 1997 or something. And it didn’t seem like anyone cared what that was. [Laughs] That’s still in the vault. We have a bunch of dates here that no one knows anything about.

Tell me about filming that scene when Louis presents Harvey with the fix, and Harvey says, “Charles Forstman got Litt the hell up.”
That experience, just like every other experience I’ve had with Gabriel when we’ve had these types of key scenes together, is just a very open and thoughtful process between us. There’s a very, very fun give and take—it doesn’t matter if the scene is dramatic or funny. There’s always fun things that Gabriel throws my way that aren’t scripted, and I do the same thing with him on occasion. Lots of off-camera playtime to keep parts of the scene fresh. Harvey finally approves of Louis for the first time in what, a thousand years it seems like.

Was your triumphant walk out of Harvey’s office scripted?
That was actually brought on me at the very end of shooting that scene. I didn’t know that they were gonna do that.

Louis’ end predicament gave me a nervous stomach.
Things are only going to get more complicated from here. You better take some Pepto-Bismol or somethin’. [Laughs]

How do these scenes affect you?
The vulnerable scenes, which Louis seems to be doing 18 times an episode these days, scare the s–t out of me. The real, raw, driven-to-tears type scenes have always scared me since I was very young working as an actor. And to this very day I get tremendously neurotic making sure nothing is forced or fake.

How did you get to that place in Louis’ scene where he’s telling Katrina what Forstman is making him do.
Both Silver [Tree], the director, and [executive producer] Anton Cropper had a great idea about keeping it all out the window. And for whatever reason, it helped me tap into some sort of emotion. [Laughs] I don’t know what the ‘looking out the window’ does to most people, but to me, for whatever reason, when it was all darkly lit, I had some kind of very funny visceral reaction to just being isolated and alone. It helped precipitate the emotion in that scene. It’s always something that you try to find at the very last minute that can maybe keep it fresh, and that way you don’t fall into a trap of trying to force something out when it’s not there.

What can you tease about how this affects Louis moving forward?
Louis is going to try his best to do what he always does, which is to be loyal to Harvey and to the firm, and to always do the right thing. Like most things in life, nothing ever goes 100 percent your way all the time. This could definitely not be a good thing for the firm, for Harvey, for Jessica, for Louis. Louis is right now staring at something that I don’t think he’s ever had in front of him before, and it’s going to be interesting from this point forward to see: Does it change him?
'Suits' star Rick Hoffman talks Louis' dangerous moves | Inside TV |

Kyls 07-24-2014 03:41 AM

I'm loving Donna/Louis. :love:

As much as I love Harvey, I wish he weren't so harsh with Louis. Or maybe it's just that we keep getting these sorts of scenes a lot lately.

Oh Rachel, no.
Or maybe..
Well, I'm no Mike/Rachel fan, and TBH if they broke up, I'd be glad because I want to see something different for Mike. :shrug: Sorry.

Gio Gio 07-24-2014 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by Kyls (Post 77131206)
Well, I'm no Mike/Rachel fan, and TBH if they broke up, I'd be glad because I want to see something different for Mike. :shrug: Sorry.

Me too. So .. I can't wait for it.



Suits RECAP Season 4 Episode 6: Mike’s Downfall, Rachel’s Kiss, Harvey Picks Mike in Litt the Hell Up [SPOILERS]
By Anshu Shrivastava | July 24, 2014 6:02 PM EST

Mike Ross made a deal with a devil, Charles Frostman, and has now ended up in the list of unemployed people. He almost won the takeover battle and then lost the war and his job. And, he is likely to lose Rachel, as well, in the next episode. In a moment of weakness, Rachel kissed Logan and she wants to update Mike on that, without waiting for an opportune time anymore. The Episode 6 of "Suits" Season 4, "Litt the Hell Up," gave Mike moments of complete control and then pulled the rug from under his feet.

Here is the Recap of "Suits" Season 4 Episode 6 "Litt the Hell Up":

Rachel visits Logan at his condo to tell him that he should put a stop to flowers, card and his attempt to get close to her. Before visiting him, she remembered her close moments with Logan in the past. Rachel reminds Logan that she loves Mike, but that does not make much difference to Logan, as he gets close to her, again. Unlike the last time, Rachel fails to resist the chemistry and the pull between them and the two passionately kiss.

Meanwhile at Sidwell's firm, Mike fears that his boss may have come to know about his deal with Frostman. Sidwell, however, wants to know what is cooking between Mike and Harvey, as SEC called -up and told him about their meeting at the steak house. Mike tells him about Rachel passing out and being admitted in hospital, and thus he and Harvey were at the same place. Sidwell wants to know if Mike is not hiding anything and if he wants to tell him something. Mike does not grab the opportunity and come clean on his deal with Frostman.

Louis arrives at Donna's desk distributing Litt Up mugs to his associates in the firm. He has a mug for Donna, as well. However, it is not the mug that he presents her, but calls it her chalice. He gives her an expensive necklace, which is a replica of Dame Judi Dench's necklace, for helping him overcome his stage fright. He wants to give one of his personalised Litt Up mugs to Harvey. Donna takes-up the task of doing that. Harvey is not too pleased seeing the mug. He, however, does not get too much time to mock Louis and vent out his frustration.

From Donna, Harvey finds out that Logan has been taken to SEC for questioning. Harvey barges into the SEC's interrogation room. Logan finds out about Harvey meeting Mike, the postponement of the auction and the buying of the stocks. Harvey walks out with Logan, as Cahill does not have anything to pin on Logan or Harvey at that moment. Outside, Logan wants to know when Harvey was going to tell him about buying of stocks. Harvey tells him that the stocks are of no use, as SEC is looking into the matter, and they cannot be parked. Jessica wants Harvey to put an end to the takeover battle as quickly as possible, while Logan is not ready to make a deal with Mike.

Jessica wants Malone to go over his prepared 'questionable' contract with a fine-tooth comb. Malone is not willing to do that, as he believes that he did his job, perfectly. He snubs Jessica when she tells him that no one disobeys her. Jessica later takes Louis to a fancy restaurant for lunch. She asks him to go through Malone's prepared contract and ensure that everything is in order.

Donna finds out from Rachel that she kissed Logan. She tells Rachel to not tell anyone about it and not to Mike at all. Harvey goes to meet Mike at his office. Mike has the leverage and tells Harvey he will buy him out, and not the other way around. Mike wants Gillis' Industries.

Back at the firm, Harvey asks Rachel to spill out what she found out during her day-long meeting with Logan. Rachel tells him that the board is not happy with Logan and he may lose his position in the company if he does not wrap-up Gillis' Industries. Equipped with this information, Harvey forces Logan to make a deal with Mike.

Afraid that Logan may reveal about the kiss at the meeting, Rachel wants Mike to let Sidwell put the takeover deal to bed. It is Mike's moment and he is not letting it go. Rachel, however, suggests him to add a new point, as he has the leverage.

At the meeting, Logan agrees to Mike's drafted takeover deal. The problem arises when Mike says that once the deal is signed, Harvey has to be his lawyer and he has to drop Logan as his client. Logan refuses to agree to that and Mike says, the deal is off if that does not happen. Both Mike and Logan ask Harvey to pick and Harvey picks Mike. Logan points out that Jessica will not agree to that, and he refuses to close the takeover deal of Gillis' Industries. It is back to square one and Harvey is not happy about that. He accuses Mike of blindsiding the deal when they could have sorted it out later. Mike, however, feels he can get away with it. Afterwards, Donna accuses Rachel of making Mike add the stipulation because of her personal issue.

Louis finds a small error in Malone's contract, but it is an error that could benefit Jessica. She can put the shares back in the market. Louis is unable to reach Harvey to update him on the new development. Harvey has gone to meet his old nemesis Frostman, as he is unable to make Logan and Mike see reason. Frostman, however, informs him that he has bought Wexler shares, which were back in the market, and there is no need for a deal now. Harvey is caught completely unaware.

At the firm, he lashes out at Louis, and does not pay heed to his explanation that he called him up a number of times. Harvey asks him to stay out of his business. Louis is devastated. Sidewell informs Mike that they have got control of Gillis' Industries. There is celebration but Mike has yet to inform Sidwell that he would not be getting a penny from this takeover win. Mike suggests to his boss that they give a 100 per cent discount to Frostman, as the latter's money can be used for other potential deals.

Louis meets Frostman and shows him his diary where he had jotted down all the moments when Harvey had humiliated him. Louis wants to buy him out. Frostman sees that Louis, too, wants to stick it to Harvey. Later, Louis tells Harvey that he has convinced Frostman to sell. Harvey is surprised and tells Louis that this is the most genius thing that he has ever done. Louis is happy to hear that and when Harvey wants to know how he got it done, Louis says that they found a common ground. Harvey understands and says, "Charles Forstman got Litt the hell up."

Mike takes the discount offer to Frostman only to hear that Frostman has sold Gillis' industries to Logan. He, however, gives Mike a job offer, which Mike refuses, saying, "go to hell." Shortly afterwards, Mike gets to hear 'you're fired' from Sidwell, as Frostman had informed him about Mike's betrayal.

Katrina finds from Louis that Frostman wants to avoid taxes and thus wants to illegally run his money through Cayman Islands. Louis is supposed to report that, but he does not do that, as reporting that means he will be losing Harvey's respect, once again.

Rachel informs Donna that Mike lost his job. Donna does not want Rachel to tell about the kiss to Mike. However, Rachel has made-up her mind to tell Mike. "Mike trusted me with his secret. I need to find the courage to trust him with this," Rachel tells Donna.

Mike puts all his stuff in his box and walks out of Sidwell Investment Group.

Sweetgirl465 07-25-2014 12:10 AM

what did everyone think of the episode?:)

Gio Gio 07-25-2014 01:35 AM


"Litt the Hell Up"

Original Airdate: July 23, 2014

The theme of “Litt the Hell Up” is really just that: sparks. There are spark flying like crazy in this episode – romantic sparks and angry sparks and sparks of betrayal mingled with regret (those are totally a thing, right?). The first few episodes of this season have been building toward a fire. Slowly but surely, the kindling has been placed and the flint has been struck. Harvey and Mike have clashed on multiple occasions and every sign pointed to a forest fire as the end result, not a fizzle. What’s so interesting about the resolution of this storyline is that the fire rages and burns in the most unexpected way. And when we back away from the flames, we see that Louis Litt is holding the match.

I admit that I was surprised by this resolution as I presumed there would be a final confrontation between Harvey and Mike – that those two would have a final duel and one (or both) would emerge covered in soot but somehow restored in their relationship. What happens instead in “Litt the Hell Up” is that Mike emerges, covered from head to toe in ashes, Harvey roasts marshmallows over an open flame, and Louis watches the flames erupt around him with feelings of remorse. So let’s discuss how this episode managed to connect everyone emotionally.


Here’s what I truly enjoyed about “Litt the Hell Up”: it subverted an easy trope. I anticipated a huge blow-out between the friends and former colleagues. I presumed that Pearson Specter would win because let’s be honest, they’re the big and strong kid on the playground. I knew that Mike would fight back, but in the end, I figured his fight was futile. He and Harvey would probably argue and bicker and play dirty for forty minutes before the conflict was resolved. But that didn’t happen. No, a confrontation occurred early in the episode in which Mike emerged victorious. Pearson Specter no longer had the shares they needed in order to win the buyout. Mike DID so he was going to propose that he buy them out.

I admit: it was delightful to see Mike manage to one-up Harvey. I enjoy rooting for Mike and I enjoy rooting for Harvey, but the first few episodes of this season have allowed me to root for neither. Both have acted selfishly and foolishly but this episode actually reminded me why I loved both characters in the first place. You see, when it came down to it – when it really came down to a moment where Harvey had to make a decision – Harvey chose Mike over Logan. When Mike presented their buyout offer and insisted on one more addendum at Rachel’s selfish (#sorrynotsorry) suggestion, it was this: Harvey had to choose between either representing Mike or representing Logan. And in spite of their issues and the fact that they have been at each others’ throats for weeks on end, Harvey chose Mike. The fact of the matter is that Harvey will do anything to win, but he will also do everything in his power not to lose. That statement may seem like redundancy, but it’s actually not. Winning isn’t the same as not losing; and to Harvey, losing Mike wouldn’t be winning at all. It was a beautiful moment that reminded me of the friendship these two once had and how they genuinely wanted to restore it. Mike’s smile in that moment was wonderful because it wasn’t overkill; he was genuinely happy to not just win the buyout but also to know that he still meant as much to Harvey as he once had. It meant that they could return to some semblance of normalcy.

It almost meant that, but it didn’t. You see, Logan vehemently protested and Harvey backtracked, trying to find a way that they could close the deal and not commit to cutting Logan off right away. Mike was having none of that nonsense (good for him) and returned to his happy little investment banking bubble that wouldn’t last much longer. Mike loses his buyout because Forseman decides to sell the shares he just purchased back to Logan Sanders (and subsequently, Pearson Specter). Furthermore, Forseman decides to tell Mike’s boss that had the deal actually stuck, the young man would have cut him out of all the money. Obviously, Sidwell doesn’t take that news very well and rightfully so. The episode ends with Mike Ross losing his job and… well, it’s not like I couldn’t have predicted that.

Mike may have acted selfishly in these first few episodes and he may have lied in order to get what he wanted, but the one thing that I can say about him as a character is that this arc made me realize how much fight Mike Ross had in him. I never doubted that Mike was smart (he has a photographic memory that is really never mentioned anymore). I never doubted that Mike cared about being a lawyer and cared about his job. But I think that I never realized how far he was willing to go in order to WIN. Mike Ross fought hard and valiantly, but – much like Rachel in the episode – his undoing was due to his own indiscretion. Had he approached Sidwell about Forseman’s deal earlier, his job could have been secured. Instead, Mike’s ego and his pride and his defiance got the better of him and he did what he often does best: he hid. Unfortunately for our characters in “Litt the Hell Up,” hiding only leads to more trouble than could have ever been imagined.


The Logan/Rachel story this week could be summed up in the wise words of Ron Burgundy: “Boy, that escalated quickly.” I’m not sure how I feel about Rachel being the person to re-initiate the relationship with Logan, but it certainly lends itself to parallelism (she is the one who initiated the affair the first time around). It’s not surprising that I’m not a huge fan of Rachel; I used to like her character, actually, back when she seemed to have a backbone and morals and didn’t spend the majority of episodes whining and/or pining. The problem with Rachel is that she has unrealistically high expectations of other people and all of the problems in her life seem to exist because she created them. The mess that she is in with Logan? That was her fault. She – as Donna points out – made the decision to go to Logan’s condo. She knew nothing good could happen from that, given the near-kiss that occurred there the last time. And yet, she went. She and Logan make out briefly and then Rachel feels horrible about it. That’s all well and good but… well, she could have prevented that from happening in the first place.

But because Rachel was weak and didn’t think about her actions, we find that her one indiscretion and hasty attempts to cover her tracks ends up causing nearly everyone in both firms to blow up. Rachel reveals Logan’s business to Harvey so that the buyout will be put to an end and she won’t have to work with her former-current flame; then she tries to bury her tracks further by suggesting that when Mike presents his buyout offer to Harvey and Logan, he also make Harvey choose between representing Logan or representing Mike in the future. (That goes terribly awry.)

Rachel is pretty selfish throughout the remainder of the episode, to be quite frank. She’s concerned with preserving her secret, no matter the cost. And it’s ironic because as she points out later in the episode, Mike is the one who kept a secret from HER. Rachel had a difficult time trusting Mike and I think that the fact that he lied to her for so long has buried itself within her subconscious and hasn’t left. Still, Rachel made a mistake and rather than admitting that mistake, or even preventing it from occurring, she tries to cover it up. It’s deceitful and can only blow up in her face. And it will likely do just that next week.


Harvey and Louis’ relationship has always been something of interest to me on Suits. It’s one of the most interesting ones because the two men are so fundamentally different. They both value loyalty and their jobs, but that’s about where the comparisons end. Louis is emotional; Harvey is stoic. Louis wants to be adored; Harvey wants to be feared. Amazingly, these two characters have known and worked together for so long that you would think they would be more accustomed to each others’ habits and quirks, but Louis’ desire to do right and to do good always seems to surprise Harvey. In spite of the fact that Harvey has blown up at Louis multiple times in the past, Louis still aims to please his friend. Harvey is like… he’s like the popular kid in school. And Louis, poor Louis, is the outcast who just wants that kid to ask for his notes during class.

I haven’t always loved Louis, but I’ve loved him a lot lately. I love his scenes with Donna. I love how vulnerable and open he is, but I also love that he’s beginning to find his backbone when it comes to dealing with Harvey. When Jessica asks Louis to look into the work that Jeff did for them (to cover up the parking on the shares of stock that Pearson Specter may or may not have done), Louis finds a “blessing in disguise,” as he calls it, and is asked by his boss to discuss it with Harvey before he proceeds with anything further. And Louis tries to contact Harvey, but when the man cannot be reached, Louis makes a decision that lands the buyout into the losing side of the war. The shares return to the market and are immediately snatched up by Forseman. The buyout is over. Mike has won.

When Louis is confronted by Harvey about this, the latter is irate and actually, the former is, too. Louis is irate that he can never do right by Harvey; he’s upset that he was forced to make a judgment call because Harvey wouldn’t answer his phone. And Harvey blows up at Louis, noting that any time that a big decision has to be made and it’s left up to Louis… he chooses wrong. What’s so great about Louis as a character is that his flaws are evident but they’re so easy to empathize with. All he wants is to prove his worth to the people around him, but no one take him seriously and no one trusts that he is capable. Furthermore, Louis allows his anger to fuel him (how many of us allow moments of anger and determination and the Rocky theme to dictate our actions?) and fuel it does: Louis uses his hatred of how Harvey treats him to confront Forseman and land Pearson Specter the buyout-winning shares.

Harvey’s face when he reads the deal? It’s priceless. He is proud of Louis. He’s about as proud as any person could possibly be. He even uses Louis’ trademark phrase to express how proud he is. It’s the best feeling in the world to Louis, most likely, because it’ so genuine. Finally, the man has done something right that is being acknowledged by everyone. Louis Litt FINALLY has a win. This victory makes the final few moments of the episode even more heartbreaking when we learn that Louis is breaking a law in order to protect the firm but also to protect his new relationship with Harvey. It’s not really pride that drives Louis to do what he does. I think that Harvey and Mike tend to be driven by pride and ego. No, Louis is driven by a desire for respect – a desire to be treated like a contributing member of the team. He wants to be seen as the outfielder, not the equipment manager. And it’s so utterly painful to watch Louis’ heartbreak over his decision to break the law because we know that the law means EVERYTHING to Louis. It is everything he stands for. But now? Now, Louis is so deeply hurt that he can’t bear to let anyone down again. He can’t bear to let Harvey down again. And so, as the employees of Pearson Specter celebrate around him, Louis watches his entire world – everything he ever believed about himself – go up in flames.

And now, bonus points:
•MVP of the episode is a tie between Patrick J. Adams for his wonderful work with Mike Ross, especially in those moments of desperation and Rick Hoffman for continuing to astound me with his portrayal of Louis Litt. Bravo, men.
•Louis buying Donna that necklace was probably one of his best moments ever.
•“In other words, end this thing.” “Not in other words. In those exact words.”
•“That’s another ‘you’ problem.”
•“I’m going with Mike. Mike’s my guy.”
•Remember how last week I said that I missed Katrina? SHE WAS BACK THIS WEEK.
•“I told your secretary that I was George Clooney’s brother.”
•“One more thing: Charles Forseman got Litt the hell up.”
Suits 4x06 "Litt the Hell Up"

Forwood4Bamon 07-25-2014 02:54 PM

if mike and rachel break up, I would be happy too. they bore me.

Sweetgirl465 07-27-2014 12:15 AM

it was good a episode:nod:

lorc 07-29-2014 01:53 AM


Originally Posted by Eclarexdelena (Post 77152828)
if mike and rachel break up, I would be happy too. they bore me.

:lol: :nod: me too...

Forwood4Bamon 07-29-2014 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by lorc (Post 77203829)
:lol: :nod: me too...

they're the only thing I don't like. everything else is good though. :)

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