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Old 04-27-2017, 03:19 PM
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Switched at Birth #1 - "You have to admit, life would be a lot easier if we had never been switched."

The board closed apparently so I started this. I'm close to finishing season 3!
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I just finished season 3. It was an okay season, better than the last one form what i remember, or at least the first part of 3.

Good for Daphne wanting to own up to her mistakes. I don't think she should go to jail but I think she's been absolutely annoying and ridiculous this season.

Wes is kind of an ass but he's hot, so I sorta ship him with Regina.

I like Bay/Emmett together but i think that Bay wanting to go with Emmett is a bit reckless but she came up with a plan and i think her parents should have been more supportive. If its gonna fail, its gonna fail and they need to let her make that mistake on her own.

it was cute that Emmett and Daphne's friendship was mentioned. Finally. They've barely interacted at all this season.

Bay taking the fall for Daphne was pretty ridiculous and i cant believe Daphne let her but it shows how selfish Daphne has been lately.
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I just finished season 3. It was an okay season, better than the last one form what i remember, or at least the first part of 3.

Good for Daphne wanting to own up to her mistakes. I don't think she should go to jail but I think she's been absolutely annoying and ridiculous this season.

Wes is kind of an ass but he's hot, so I sorta ship him with Regina.

I like Bay/Emmett together but i think that Bay wanting to go with Emmett is a bit reckless but she came up with a plan and i think her parents should have been more supportive. If its gonna fail, its gonna fail and they need to let her make that mistake on her own.

it was cute that Emmett and Daphne's friendship was mentioned. Finally. They've barely interacted at all this season.

Bay taking the fall for Daphne was pretty ridiculous and i cant believe Daphne let her but it shows how selfish Daphne has been lately.
Are you still watching? Have you finished Season 4 or 5 yet?

I agree about Bay taking the fall for Daphne. Ridiculous. And Daphne allowing Bay to do that ruins their relationship for me.

I don't understand why characters do not face consequences for their actions on this show. Do the writers not believe in law and order? For instance, Matthew catfishing Emmett. He should have faced some sort of repercussion for what he did. Daphne should have at least faced some sort of discipline from her parents for all of her illegal activities. Switched at Birth shows so many characters breaking the law, and then, benefiting from it. It's strange.
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Im still watching but been very busy so its been very slow. Only watched a few episodes of season 4...

I hate when shows dont have consequences.

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I’m glad that Toby was mad at Daphne for letting Bay taking the fall for her because everyone else was just totally fine with it.

I liked Daphne’s new roommate a lot. I thought her cousin Josh was pretty funny too but he had a point, going to lectures he already failed in did not sound appealing.

It was sad to see Emmett and Bay’s relationship crumble the way it has because they just aren’t the same as they once were when the show started.

I actually felt sort of bad for Daphne when Bay was upset with her too. It was Bay’s dumb decision and even though Daphne shouldn’t have gone along with it, it did work out better for Bay go get community service/house arrest. I think Daphne may end up turning herself in maybe…

Kathryn and Regina’s friendship was great.

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Bay shouldn’t have to apologize to the brat at community service about her boyfriend. I understand her not wanting to get into more trouble though. But she coulda busted the bitch when she smashed her phone. So annoying.

I loved that Josh stood up to those jerk students and I felt Daphne was way out of line yelling at him for trying to help her. Then firing him? How is she gonna find someone else?

I didnt really like Eric tbh. He just took the other ladies word for what happened and told Regina to leave, it was really obnoxious and childish imo. And of course he is gonna be the new love interest.

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Bay has every right to be angry at Daphne but she did bring it on herself. I found it odd that she implied she would go back and do i again for daphne even after everything?

I was glad to see more of Emmett in the episode and I liked his new friendship.

I wonder who they are gonna hook Daphne up with... Josh or the new guy? lol.

Regina's hook up was hot! I like the new guy.

The ending scene with the mud was really cute.

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This was a good episode. I really enjoyed the Daphne plot. It sucked she got a D, but I really love the teacher (the actress is great) and I like that she was willing to give Daphne extra credit. I hope to see her succeed. I don't like her recent attitude either and being rude to her mom wasn't cool, but at the same time I understood her POV and this seasons Daphne is 10x more likable then last seasons Daphne. I like her and Josh together too.

I wasnt surprised to see problems for Emmett and Bay once he got back to town, those two are always on the rocks it seems. Maybe they should just break up for good, idk. I understood Bay's frustration but she should have been happy to see Emmett doing so well alone. The kiss was sucky and Emmett should have been honest but it was just a dumb little kiss. Bay sleeping with Tank is 100x worse. Yikes. Not sure how they are going to overcome that one.

I understood the Kennish's POV with wanting to cut off Tobey, but it was kind of harsh how they did it. I am glad he came around in the end and understood that he had to work.

I think Travis SHOULD do baseball. Going to college and studying all the time is no fun and he finally found something that he enjoys and that hes good at. I think he can juggle both and its not a big deal to move one class! Last season he struggled with trying to be happy and find himself. I didnt like at ALL how Emmett's mom came at Mr. Kennish, like... she was almost threatening him. So rude.

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This was a good episode. I really enjoyed the Daphne plot. It sucked she got a D, but I really love the teacher (the actress is great) and I like that she was willing to give Daphne extra credit. I hope to see her succeed. I don't like her recent attitude either and being rude to her mom wasn't cool, but at the same time I understood her POV and this seasons Daphne is 10x more likable then last seasons Daphne. I like her and Josh together too.

I wasnt surprised to see problems for Emmett and Bay once he got back to town, those two are always on the rocks it seems. Maybe they should just break up for good, idk. I understood Bay's frustration but she should have been happy to see Emmett doing so well alone. The kiss was sucky and Emmett should have been honest but it was just a dumb little kiss. Bay sleeping with Tank is 100x worse. Yikes. Not sure how they are going to overcome that one.

I understood the Kennish's POV with wanting to cut off Tobey, but it was kind of harsh how they did it. I am glad he came around in the end and understood that he had to work.

I think Travis SHOULD do baseball. Going to college and studying all the time is no fun and he finally found something that he enjoys and that hes good at. I think he can juggle both and its not a big deal to move one class! Last season he struggled with trying to be happy and find himself. I didnt like at ALL how Emmett's mom came at Mr. Kennish, like... she was almost threatening him. So rude.
Yeah, I liked Episode 404, too, except for, of course, the end, when Bay wakes up in bed with Tank.

Maybe I'm just old, but I don't even see the kiss as being sucky. A girl liked a boy at college. She made a play for him. He told her that he is off-limits, and she accepted it. If a relationship cannot handle a little stumbling block like that, then it isn't strong enough to survive anything.

Bay was unfair to Tank. She knew he carried a torch for her the size of the towering inferno. She knew that she totally broke his heart when she cheated on him and then went on to choose Emmett. For Bay to be using Tank to sop up the angst over her romance problems with Emmett was self-centered. Plus, it was a betrayal of her relationship with Emmett for Bay to tell her ex-boyfriend about their private matters, not to mention flirting with her ex-boyfriend and allowing him to comfort her while Emmett is so far away.
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Maybe I'm just old, but I don't even see the kiss as being sucky. A girl liked a boy at college. She made a play for him. He told her that he is off-limits, and she accepted it. If a relationship cannot handle a little stumbling block like that, then it isn't strong enough to survive anything.
Yeah I agree. It seemed like useless drama. And even tough Emmett should have told her, I don't think that he necessarily HAD to because it was a nothing moment. Its not like Emmett reciprocated. But I can see how Bay would feel bad about it because of his past cheating.

I agree about Bay/Tank, it wasn't cool for him to be flirting and drinking with him, knowing how he felt about her. AND knowing their history. And Tank pisses me off too. He knew B/E were having issues and IMO he kinda took advantage of that situation. He shouldn't have slept with Bay (if thats what happened).
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Yeah I agree. It seemed like useless drama. And even tough Emmett should have told her, I don't think that he necessarily HAD to because it was a nothing moment. Its not like Emmett reciprocated. But I can see how Bay would feel bad about it because of his past cheating.

I agree about Bay/Tank, it wasn't cool for him to be flirting and drinking with him, knowing how he felt about her. AND knowing their history. And Tank pisses me off too. He knew B/E were having issues and IMO he kinda took advantage of that situation. He shouldn't have slept with Bay (if thats what happened).
Tank totally took advantage of the situation AND of Bay. I mean, people do that. It's not unheard of. But it wasn't any more mature or selfless of Tank than it was of Bay. Each of them took what they wanted from the other without considering what it would do to the other.

When Tank first met Bay, he saved her from a night of drunken sex with Cliff (aka Ledge), because he knew she was just heartbroken over Ty. Bay didn't really want to sleep with Cliff, even though she professed that she did and was rather irked at Tank for intervening in her night of meaningless sex. At the time, Tank promised Bay that she would have "a million more chances to do that in the next four years," but right then, she needed some air.

Then, when the next opportunity arose, and Bay was once again indicating to Tank that she wanted a night of meaningless sex to help heal her heart, he took her up on the offer.

In Tank's mind, he wasn't using her. He really cared about Bay and thought she cared about him, too. In fact, if Bay had woken up the next morning and wanted to restart their relationship again, Tank would have been all for it.

In fact, in the next episode, we learn later that night....

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I feel sorry for both of them. Alcohol was the villain, just like it had been for Emmett with Simone a few years earlier.
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Okay I watched the next episode and I can't say I was fond of the SL but I do think it was good drama.

I felt bad for Bay because I kinda know the feeling of being with someone else immediately after you and your ex or current bf have a fight. I've been there before so I could relate to how she was feeling a bit. But I think her guilt over cheating is what sort of made her think that Tank took advantage of her. But I am not so quick to think thats what happened? I mean, I call BS on 'rape' accusations when two people are drunk. When you start drinking you know that there is a chance you will not remember your actions and that you will make poor choices. That IS you consenting to whatever decisions you make when you are drunk. Tank didnt force drinks down her throat. They were both drunk. So why is that Bay is apparently “raped” in some peoples eyes but Tank was not? And tolerance levels are different for people. How was Tank to know if she was THAT wasted or she was just being a fun drunk? If he was sober and she was drunk then it would be a totally different situation. But he was drunk too? So like, idk…. how could he really tell it was wrong? He probably wasn't thinking all that clearly either. And they had a history, and he liked her, so of course he probably wanted to believe that she wanted to be with him just as much. On top of that, according to his story (Which I am going to believe because I dont see Tank as a rapist) they were having fun, laughing, flirting, and she initiated the kiss. So idk. I think it was uncool of her to just accuse him like that.

Now, what I didn't like was Tank's reaction. I think he had some good points but he was acting a bit insensitive. He should’ve apologized to Bay for what happened while still giving his opinion on the situation.

Cant stand Toby's current g/f, shes irritating. And his dad's non support of him is frustrating too. He can have his opinions on Toby and he may be right, but he's your son. Be encouraging and talk to him about your concerns, dont throw subtle digs at him for being a DJ. So annoying.

I am still really loving Daphne's storyline this season and I really like her chemistry with Josh too. I hope that goes somewhere and doesnt just fizzle out like her other love interests.
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Okay I watched the next episode and I can't say I was fond of the SL but I do think it was good drama.

I felt bad for Bay because I kinda know the feeling of being with someone else immediately after you and your ex or current bf have a fight. I've been there before so I could relate to how she was feeling a bit. But I think her guilt over cheating is what sort of made her think that Tank took advantage of her. But I am not so quick to think thats what happened? I mean, I call BS on 'rape' accusations when two people are drunk. When you start drinking you know that there is a chance you will not remember your actions and that you will make poor choices. That IS you consenting to whatever decisions you make when you are drunk. Tank didnt force drinks down her throat. They were both drunk. So why is that Bay is apparently “raped” in some peoples eyes but Tank was not? And tolerance levels are different for people. How was Tank to know if she was THAT wasted or she was just being a fun drunk? If he was sober and she was drunk then it would be a totally different situation. But he was drunk too? So like, idk…. how could he really tell it was wrong? He probably wasn't thinking all that clearly either. And they had a history, and he liked her, so of course he probably wanted to believe that she wanted to be with him just as much. On top of that, according to his story (Which I am going to believe because I dont see Tank as a rapist) they were having fun, laughing, flirting, and she initiated the kiss. So idk. I think it was uncool of her to just accuse him like that.
I don't think Bay ever did explicitly accuse Tank of rape, but like you say, because of her guilt, she did imply (and seem to really believe) that he took advantage of her, and also like you say, I don't think it's that simple.

The more I think about the situation, I feel Bay and Tank took advantage of each other. They did not do it knowingly or with evil intent. It was more of a situation where they were both needy (for different things) at the same time, and they leaned on one another to get their needs met, when neither one of them should have done that at the time (and certainly not while drunk).

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Now, what I didn't like was Tank's reaction. I think he had some good points but he was acting a bit insensitive. He should’ve apologized to Bay for what happened while still giving his opinion on the situation.
Tank seemed to be too shocked and offended by Bay's questions to apologize. I don't think he ever in a million years imagined she might say that what happened was not her choice. (And she never actually did say it wasn't her choice. Instead, she said that if she cannot remember, then how does she know.)

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Cant stand Toby's current g/f, shes irritating. And his dad's non support of him is frustrating too. He can have his opinions on Toby and he may be right, but he's your son. Be encouraging and talk to him about your concerns, dont throw subtle digs at him for being a DJ. So annoying.
I agree that I did not like Toby's girlfriend. Wish that the writers had not ruined her character. I don't understand why the writers never allowed a single character to be a likable person at the end of the series.

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I am still really loving Daphne's storyline this season and I really like her chemistry with Josh too. I hope that goes somewhere and doesnt just fizzle out like her other love interests.
Ah, Daphne....don't worry too much about her. The writers tend to give the character of Daphne everything her heart desires. In Season 4, I seem to remember that Daphne lives under a lucky star, and Bay lives in hell.
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Id rather she live under a lucky star tbh, because when shes going through difficult stuff she annoys me. ^

I watched 406 today...

I can’t believe Lily went and told the administration about what happened with Tank or Bay. Like Toby said, she didn’t even know the full story. I realize its her job, but IDK, she should have at least had a conversation with Toby about it first.

I felt really bad for Tank, I don’t think that he intentionally tried to “rape” Bay or take advantage of her. I believe him when he says he thought he had a greenlight and that he cares about Bay. But I like this storyline. I don’t think the show is trying to say that he is wrong or he is right, I think they are trying to show both sides of the issue. It sucks that Tank got expelled but I guess its good that the school takes action. But surely, nobody could have given much account to what happened i order to actually expel him? That storyline just felt odd.

I love that Daphne went to see Emmett on Bay’s behalf. I miss that friendship.

I think its a bit weird that Travis was taking things with Bay so personally and lashing out. Since when have they been all that close? LOL. But i guess he feels guilty for throwing the party and not taking her home when he saw she was drunk.

The scene between Bay and her father was so touching and sweet.
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I felt really bad for Tank, I don’t think that he intentionally tried to “rape” Bay or take advantage of her. I believe him when he says he thought he had a greenlight and that he cares about Bay. But I like this storyline. I don’t think the show is trying to say that he is wrong or he is right, I think they are trying to show both sides of the issue.
I liked the storyline, too, and I agree that the show was trying to show both sides of the issue at this point. Later, though, I feel as though the show takes sides, and that bothers me.

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It sucks that Tank got expelled but I guess its good that the school takes action. But surely, nobody could have given much account to what happened i order to actually expel him? That storyline just felt odd.
Odd, yes, but in real life, at the time, that is what was happening on college campuses all around the country.

In the last year or two, that's been changing, though. Young men have sued college campuses over their lack of due process and won. Thank goodness!

Colleges are no longer expelling young men so quickly.

And as of 13 hours ago, the Title IX "Dear Colleague" letter that started it all and made life miserable for many has been rescinded:

https://www.the-american-interest.co...ter-2011-2017/

I'm relieved about that. When this storyline first aired, I remember realizing that I did not want to live in a society that considers what happened to Bay rape. Now, our federal government no longer does.

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Me, too. I wish that friendship had been explored more on the show. Daphne and Emmett's friendship was completely abandoned as early as Season 1C. In the series, their last good scenes together are when they are editing the "Dawn of the Deaf" movie at John Kennish's desk, and then, when Emmett shows up late one evening at a park bench to comfort Daphne when she is feeling down about Chef Jeff. Daphne and Emmett didn't have meaningful scenes together after that. It hurt the show, in my opinion.

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I think its a bit weird that Travis was taking things with Bay so personally and lashing out. Since when have they been all that close? LOL. But i guess he feels guilty for throwing the party and not taking her home when he saw she was drunk.
Travis should feel guilty.

I cannot stop thinking what a horrible friend he was to Emmett and Bay. Travis knew how Bay and Emmett rekindled their love. Travis knew how Tank felt when Bay cheated on him. Heck, Travis even saw Tank take a swing at Emmett in the bar called Scratch. We saw Travis watching as that whole scene went down.

And yet, a few months later, while Emmett is thousands of miles away at college, Travis finds it acceptable to tell Bay's ex-boyfriend Tank where to find a private dorm room to take a VERY inebriated Bay to rest? After the two of them had been partying together like that?

Bay had been sitting on Tank's lap and batting her eyelashes in Tank's direction all evening. Why would Travis be the one to tell Tank where he could find an empty room to take Bay? Travis knew how much Tank hates Emmett. It makes no sense to me that Travis would do that. If he was a good friend to either Emmett or Bay, he should not have sent her off to a bedroom with her ex-boyfriend when she was that drunk. He should have looked out for her himself.
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You make a good point about Travis.

I watched 407...

I understand that Emmett is upset about what happened with Bay but not talking about it definitely the way to solve their issues. But i just cannot stand their constant issues. They are always fighting. They just shouldn’t be together.

I found the plot with Katherine’s mom sort of funny. Until of course she revealed that she had Alzheimers. I understand why Katherine was upset but she should let her mom spend her time how she wants.

UGH @ stupid Nacho trying to blackmail Regina and Daphne. WTF dude. Like, move on. And then Regina just agreeing to pay him? WHAT THE F. No. I am glad her new bf got involved. I like him a lot.
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You make a good point about Travis.

I watched 407...

I understand that Emmett is upset about what happened with Bay but not talking about it definitely the way to solve their issues. But i just cannot stand their constant issues. They are always fighting. They just shouldn’t be together.

I found the plot with Katherine’s mom sort of funny. Until of course she revealed that she had Alzheimers. I understand why Katherine was upset but she should let her mom spend her time how she wants.

UGH @ stupid Nacho trying to blackmail Regina and Daphne. WTF dude. Like, move on. And then Regina just agreeing to pay him? WHAT THE F. No. I am glad her new bf got involved. I like him a lot.
That was cool when Eric got involved like that. If Eric hadn't had so many secrets, I could have really liked his relationship with Regina.

I wish the show had brought Kathryn's feelings about her mom full circle with her daughters' feelings about her and Kathryn's feelings about her daughter. The show used to do stuff like that in the first season, and they stopped it as soon as Becky Hartman Edwards left the writing staff. I missed those kinds of connections that come from the characters reflecting on what happens to them.

It's a shame the series did not show us Bay & Emmett happy together, before the writers threw more drama at them. Everything just becomes one big drama fest when writers do that, and none of the writing means much anymore.

Bay & Emmett's issues were tedious by this episode. The writers were hellbent on destroying them as a couple, and it showed. As this episode aired, the showrunner said Emmett had a journey he needed to travel in order to work through his feelings over what had happened to Bay. If he traveled any journey, I do not feel as though I saw any of it.

Bottom line, on the night of the rainstorm, Bay's words made Emmett feel as though she had cheated on him, and for whatever reason, he needed time to heal. Too bad he didn't have the maturity to move past Bay's self-doubts and see things from Daphne's point of view. It seemed as though his own guilt over cheating on Bay made it more difficult for him to forgive her. He thought she chose to sleep with Tank to punish him. That's sad.

I feel Bay and Emmett should be together, but they both needed a wake up call to gain the maturity and perspective needed to treat their relationship with care. Unfortunately, neither of them ever got that wake up call.
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I like it so far, but well see where it goes. I think hes 100x better than Angelo though... . And Wes was a jerk too.

I am not sure why they keep putting B/E back together just to destroy them on repeat. Makes no sense. Either leave them apart or let them be happy. So annoying. I used to love them and now i just cant.
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